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Orlanth wrote:You are not the only one waiting for Firestorm. Everyone else round here has their except me.

I went cheap on startup.

I hope the newsletter after the facebook chat will give more information on possible shipping timelines.

I did some analysis and buying a large army direct was cheaper, so I baught direct

Druidic wrote:I did some analysis and buying a large army direct was cheaper, so I baught direct

My problem was that I had to buy for myself and 2 friends, since they dont have the cash, so I settled for 4 starters + extras instead of 1 large or mega army.

Just a heads-up, beta of the UCM datafile is up. Skirmish battlegroups only (as they serve as the template for the others.

Again, PM with bugs, as well as things you like (I've done the same thing different times in different parts of the file, so if you like how the Albatross selection works in one battlegroup over another, for example, let me know.

Most validation is in place, including complex things like shared transports

Understood Rat, was considering the same, then came into some unexpected cash so splashed out on 2 large armies for the same reason!

My order arrived yesterday! I picked up two mega armies (UCM & PHR) along with a rule book. The models will require some cleaning of minor flash, but I think most of it will be taken care of by some warm water and a toothbrush. I've never bought Finecast, so I can't compare the resin. I do have a ton of DKoK models and I can say that Hawk resin is superior to Forge World just due to the fact that I cannot find any warped parts.

The only minor irritations were that two PHR models had air bubbles large enough to pretty much remove the forward scanners and Hawk didn't ship the Archangel Interceptors with my UCM army. I've already emailed them and am hoping they have quality customer service.

So many deals missing parts, it's definitely odd. He replied to my email within a few days, hopefully makes sending what was overlooked a priority.

RiTides wrote:So many deals missing parts, it's definitely odd. He replied to my email within a few days, hopefully makes sending what was overlooked a priority.

New company, tons of orders. If they're doing their own fulfillment and might have called in friends or temps who aren't as familiar with the product line, it's not surprising. Fulfillment of orders can be tough, especially if you're suddenly doing well.

Also, we are generally only hearing abotu the problem orders.

I am sure all of that is true. However, it's something they'll have to work out... and it makes me kind of glad I decided to only order the Mega direct and the rest through a US site, while they work through this crazy ordering phase.

I'm sure they'll get it sorted out, I think little glitches like this for a brand new company who have been completely overwhelmed by the volume of orders for their product are to be expected.

Do we know if order placed currently direclty to Hawk are taking long to be delivered?
Can't wait to get my hands on this stuff!

Site makes it clear there is a 2 week delay. from the facebook chat yesterday Dave made it clear they have been let down by the casting machine supplier which is buggering up the planned role out.

After all his hard work I feel for the poor guy being stuffed by a 3rd party letting them down!

Just hit me, I'm a sad little fan boy for this game at the age of 40... I need serious mental help.... this must be what it's like getting into the hobby for the first time.... 25 years since my first time so I don't remember it! :-)

It also appears there's been some sort of hold up for some US players with customs according to my FLGS :(

Druidic wrote:Site makes it clear there is a 2 week delay. from the facebook chat yesterday Dave made it clear they have been let down by the casting machine supplier which is buggering up the planned role out.

After all his hard work I feel for the poor guy being stuffed by a 3rd party letting them down!

Just hit me, I'm a sad little fan boy for this game at the age of 40... I need serious mental help.... this must be what it's like getting into the hobby for the first time.... 25 years since my first time so I don't remember it! :-)

Yes, but there are people receiving Rulebooks... Just me wish-thinking, that maybe, just maybe...somethings are still in stock and most orders may be fullfilled...

I keep knocking my head on the wall for not having the opportunity to order during the pre-order window...

Just got a question about the rules wondered if anybody knew. Commanders can be mounted in any veichle. So does that mean if you put a commander say in a saber. Do you still have to buy a kodiak to fulfill the mandatory 1 minimum hq battlegroup for clash and battle or does a commander in a non command veichle fill the slot.

Vaktathi wrote:It also appears there's been some sort of hold up for some US players with customs according to my FLGS :(

This is normal.

Customs will stop a package if it goes above the tax threshold, which a £220 army deal certainly will. Customs will then hold it until US duty is paid. This works both ways.


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gojira01 wrote:Just got a question about the rules wondered if anybody knew. Commanders can be mounted in any veichle. So does that mean if you put a commander say in a saber. Do you still have to buy a kodiak to fulfill the mandatory 1 minimum hq battlegroup for clash and battle or does a commander in a non command veichle fill the slot.

First commander goes in the HQ command vehicle, subsequent commanders go anywhere. If you don't have an HQ then you can place a commander anywhere.

Hmm. I don't recall anything saying you can't put a commander in a non-vehicle unit. Commander in a razorworm squad?

Isnt a Razorworm 'squad' an equipment upgrade?

it's still a unit, it's just acquired in a different way, just like transports and gates don't actually take up a choice in a battlegroup, they're still squads

hmm. commander in a dropship would be useful, as they're really fast, but it'd be a bit "eggs in one basket"

A heavy dropship would be a fairly smart choice. Lots of hit points, a good reason to be in a central command radius position and untargetable by most units.


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A heavy dropship would be a fairly smart choice. Lots of hit points, a good reason to be in a central command radius position and untargetable by most units.

I have good news regarding Hawk's customer service. Dave sent me an email within 12 hours apologizing for the missing / miscast models and stating that he will have replacements in the mail ASAP.

The most impressive thing about this email was that I received it at 8:30pm Mountain Time. Local time for Dave in the UK was 3:30am. If that's not quality customer service, I don't know what is.

Borrowed my friend's rulebook for the weekend . Going to read up, then put together a starter set's worth of tanks, and some buildings, and get a game in on Wednesday

Just finished reading through all 60 pages of DZC goodies Cannot wait for the rulebook to show up sometime next week

Now, in the mean time will people please do a ton of battle report. Make work!

To the homepage and agonize over which faction to get. Think UCM and Scourge for the arch-typical battle of the setting

Just thought I would share some observations on the models now that I have put some together. 1. No real complaints some small bubbles on the scourge that destroyed some eye lenses but you can hardly see them anyway. 2. Contray to what has been put out you do need to wash or at least prime the models. I attempted to undercoat without priming or washing the model using GW black and the model repelled the paint .It just beaded up. Not nearly as bad as forge world resin does. So usual resin painting rules apply. 3. As far as people worrying about having to get additional dropships because they want to put 2 models instead of 3 in a dropship. You dont have to worry. At least with the scourge carrying capacity is not an abstract concept. With a Marauder dropship you can carry 3 Hunters or 2 heavies. You still put in all the brackets because capacity in the rules is determined by what can actually fit on the ship. Even with all 3 brackets on you can only fit 2 heavies in the ship. You just have a small gap between the two tanks when you leave the middle braet empty. 4. Gorilla brand super glue does not result in the instant bond that people have talked about. At least the batch I have been using doesn't.

Interesting, I was planning to use gorilla brand super glue. I don't necessarily want an instant bond, though. Are you happy with it?

I haven't worked with much resin, and the ones I have worked with, I didn't end up washing, and after priming it took paint fine. Are you saying you might try painting it just after washing, without priming? I'm a little concerned that priming is going to cover up the tiny details, unless I can do it with a friend's airbrush for a thinner coat.

@Cytisus- Sounds like a great plan

I have built and magnetised my whole ucm mega army and standard superglue worked great, it bonds best when glued before painting but still strong after painting. Magnets glue in great with superglue too. I primed mine with a fine spray of Gw white primer in the can. Worked great, I kept in fine by doing it from a reasonable distance. No detail lost. Also I didn't wash any of it and it's fine.

What brand of superglue did you use?

Also... pics?

RiTides wrote:What brand of superglue did you use?

Also... pics?

Yeah, PICS! It is a sin not giving us DZCless something to drool over

Points at sig, not much there yet but I've got a few things in the works.

Nick Ellingworth wrote:Points at sig, not much there yet but I've got a few things in the works.

Been there, done that. Sadly there is not enough threads about DZC to "fill my needs"

But you sure have a nice little bunch here And you cannot go wrong with UCM