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Sersi wrote:[B]
Or how about daemonic version of the munchkins from the Wizard of Oz / Umpalumpas from Willie Wonka for nurglings? Creepy:p

I like it. Great (<-Understatement) work so far, keep it up.

I think that would look amazingly horrible and still keep with the army, Im confuse werent you doing the ogres as plagubearers? where they way too big? If they were, you know you dont have to go bloated for plaguebearers, everyone does the bloated thing, what about a plague that does the opposite. like a plague that sucks away your fat to make you sexier...but causes such addiction that it doesnt stop there...and the plaguebearers keep injecting themselves with it to become skinnier and skinnier, like plague driven bolemics(S?). constantly purging, to feel good....yikes....

Now you have me thinking of strung out super-models.

I changed the Gluttons to "counts as Blood Crushers". They were to big to be plaquebearers, and there were issues with them being on larger bases 40-60mm bases. Besides giant fat genies owning space marines is to cool to pass up.

Ahhhhhh.... (rediculous post I know )

This is amazing, Just wow; perfect slaanesh.

just one little complaint

PAINT SOMETHING !!!!! even if its just a toe....something

Hey Sersi, Ive been watching this log avidly. everything is incredible, I've probably said as much before

I had a cool idea for the dais, inspired by your first sketch of the SG. what if it was composed of serpents, who rose up behind it like a throne?

something like this, but less static:

That'd actually be a really cool for the soulgrinder. Might even be able to make the snakes tieing her down in a slaneshy bondage sort of way ;p

Nothing says Slanesh like bondage with lethal reptiles ;p

Okay, here are two more Soul grinder concept designs I came up with:





I hate to warp your minds and run; but I'm taking the wife to the Chicago Comic-con today.


More Later!

i dunno, this soulgrinder seems a bit.....i dont wanna say its wrong cos its not perverted and it doesnt have teeth filled penuses or whatever, but its really....unsettling...maybe thats your whole plan ^^.
oh i prefer the giant spider women things btw. first one is my fav.

So are you abandoning the pregnant soulgrinder concept?

I hope he isnt abandoning it because it would make one hell of a model thats for true !

But I can see where you are comign from, this new concept does looks more Soul Grinder like Good work, bit I still prefer the pregnant idea

I hope he doesnt abandon the pregnant soulgrinder project either, it was so creepy!

Could be possible that he's going to do that one, AND one of these. Maybe not, I dunno.

I think you were really onto something with the original concept you were working on.

My gut instinct is to take the original "stomach gun" sitting deity concept, and place it on a fancy platform. If you are going with the mechanized style (helmet-hair and such) I would continue that by creating a relatively simple "floating/levitating" platform. Simple is quite good, and you can always cover the "hover-board" with fancy patterns to create a nice effect and bonding agent for the models flow.

I am not a huge fan of putting your original idea on spider stilts, it just seems to be over-compensatory for an otherwise very interesting design. It only takes two clashing styles to destroy a nice design, although you could incorporate the spider legs in somehow to back up your prime form with a secondary.

Tomb-spider style would look quite good, dangling stubby legs and a levitating base. Tentacles are my first focus, but remember that a tentacle becomes phallic in more respects than one when directly attached to the hips. I would place them on the edge of the "hover-board" like a classic disc UFO has the landing gear. Three would suffice, and you could even make the rear tentacle modified into an eye stalk of sorts, due to the fact that the face is likely to be blind-folded.

Five tentacles could work, but at this point you might as well be bumping it to six and making them even around the "hover-boards" edges. Four would just look strange, and seven would overwhelm the model.

Stick with the preggy dude, put her on a four legged crab claw platform that she is sexfully fused to, and put a smile on her face, a sexfullly twisted smile ;D

Ya, saw this on warseer, and hoped you had changed your mind.

Not that there is anything wrong with these concepts... They are just significantly less unique and twisted than the prego-grinder.

Actually, I hate to say it, but other than the cool way each leg set looks (umm... lets just say 'provocative'), the concept is prety boring, and the spider-queen thing a tad overdone.

Not that you havent shown an incredible trend to make everything look insanely, mindblowingly, amazing!

As I understand it soulgrinders are daemon engines, right? So it seems like a daemon fused with a machine is the way to go. How about something along the lines of the penitent engine? Given you amazing sculpting talents, it seems like you ought to show off more styles and get something mechanical in the mix - and they do have an armor value. Forgeworld has done some nice daemon engine stuff recently... Have to admit, I find the prego grinder disturbing. Its odd what will bother one and what won't in miniatures.

"Overdone"? Exactly how many brilliantly-sculpted spider-queen soulgrinder models have you seen? Because I've seen exactly zero.

Stick with the preggy dude, put her on a four legged crab claw platform that she is sexfully fused to, and put a smile on her face, a sexfullly twisted smile ;D

...what does "sexfully" even mean? Personally I find this comment more disturbing than it is helpful, lol...some people might be getting too into it.

In any case I think some people might be right though, these designs don't seem to incorporate the half-demon, half-machine theme that the soulgrinder should have.

Woa dude, chill out its a joke, if youve paid attention to the thread, Sersi has mentioned many a time how important it is for the models to be conflicting in two important ways:
-Arousing
-disturbing
Therefore it is important, and an obvious theme that sex is key for this cult of slaanesh. Therefore, "jokingly" sexfully means make it sexy, and disturbing. Thats what the whole army is about.

I also agree with having some machine in there, an armor value is an important point, therefore I agree it should have some representation. You are burdoned with the task of finding a harmony between the two and that is no easy task... where does the soul end and the machine begin?


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OH! almost forgot, what I meant by the gleeful smile is, I love your first prego concepts with the open mouth and everything, but what if she was smiling with her mouth open,? or is that too twisted?

Hi Sersi,

just wanted to congratulate you on this amazing army, and log chroncling its creation. Very few logs are so thorough, and it is great seeing the model from concept, through to the finished models
i particularly like the original soulgrinder concept, pretty much sums up Slaaanesh

please, keep up the good work

thanks, Overlord

Sidstyler wrote:"Overdone"? Exactly how many brilliantly-sculpted spider-queen soulgrinder models have you seen? Because I've seen exactly zero.

Spider legs and body with a human torso growing out of the head area?
yeah NEVER seen that before...
ever...
im not being sarcastic...

Hey guys,

I'm starting work on the first of the Soul Grinders tonight. But I have a question regarding scale. How long are the legs individal legs on a Soul Grinder/Defiler? I'll take answers in english or metric...I'm flexible like that.

Roughly five inches total with bends, stands roughly between 2 and 3 inches off the ground

Thanks Gameandwatch!

Progress!

Here's and update on the D. Princesses Head. I decided to sculpt it to look like the heads on the new plastic daemonettes.












Hmmm.... seems a little on the big side. I may have to carve it down a bit.

Also picked up a new IKEA display case for the army:

Sersi please tell us, i beg of you... Will you still do the pregnant grinder?

Oh Yes! The pregnant grinder and her evil little munchkin babies are definitely getting done. I'll likely use the insect-oid legs from the second drawing, for her mechanical base. It shouldn't take much to tech-up the design. The other two grinders will be based of the third grinder concept design. I got lots of good feedback on that one.

I've started on the legs for the two lesser grinders. I'm pretty much scratch building everything. So, I started on the legs first since I need 12 virtually identical legs. Once I get a nice detailed on leg done I'll mold and cast it 6 six times for each model. The main body I'll sculpt out of super sculpey over a ball aluminum foil to save clay.

Sersi wrote:Oh Yes! The pregnant grinder and her evil little munchkin babies are definitely getting done. I'll likely use the insect-oid legs from the second drawing, for her mechanical base. It shouldn't take much to tech-up the design. The other two grinders will be based of the third grinder concept design. I got lots of good feedback on that one.

I've started on the legs for the two lesser grinders. I'm pretty much scratch building everything. So, I started on the legs first since I need 12 virtually identical legs. Once I get a nice detailed on leg done I'll mold and cast it 6 six times for each model. The main body I'll sculpt out of super sculpey over a ball aluminum foil to save clay.

i was hoping you would stick with a floating platform
insectoid legs seem to clash with the concept for me

Well for the PG grinder I'll be working on the main body of the model first. So with that done I can try out both the legs and floating dais ideas to see which look better.

Sersi wrote:Well for the PG grinder I'll be working on the main body of the model first. So with that done I can try out both the legs and floating dais ideas to see which look better.

YAY!

no so sure about the faces of the DP's. other wise - you rock.