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With talent such as yours, it's obvious that you've already promised your soul to some dark power.

Gather the torches and pitchforks, fellas--I thinks we's got a witch that needs a-burnin!

Epic group shot there at the end! The ladies are looking fantastic, here's hoping that the heads don't give you any more trouble and pull everything together

@ Wehrkind's demand for androgyny, I say let the corrupted space marines (Empy's Kids) keep the m/f confusion. Ultra-female demons ftw.

- Salvage

Just a quick comment sersi, good buddy, for the grinder you could consider having the gun in the belly almost like a pregnant demon birthing goodness to all those within 36". I think it would still keep with the theme, not be too nurgly in any respect if done right(which can easily be done), and may be a seperate very conflicting sidepiece: Pregnant beautiful machine with...OMG, the stomach! What is that! O-o so yeah, just somethin to think about.

gameandwatch:

Just a quick comment sersi, good buddy, for the grinder you could consider having the gun in the belly almost like a pregnant demon birthing goodness to all those within 36". I think it would still keep with the theme, not be too nurgly in any respect if done right(which can easily be done), and may be a seperate very conflicting sidepiece: Pregnant beautiful machine with...OMG, the stomach! What is that! O-o so yeah, just somethin to think about.

Oh this is good....It puts a very specific image in mind...the scene is Species where in a Gieger-esque Sil gives birth. Sprinkle in a bit of the Queen from Aliens... Thanks for the inspiration bud!

I had also considered a grinder with the cannon hung a little lower even...

Disturbing imagery to follow!

Going off of the pregnant soulgrinder idea, you could have "her" cradling the gun belly, like so--



that would be downright creepy, the maternal feeling eminating from something destructive.

The_Chaplain wrote:Going off of the pregnant soulgrinder idea, you could have "her" cradling the gun belly, like so--



that would be downright creepy, the maternal feeling eminating from something destructive.

You must make it so sersi!
For all that is slaaneshi!

That is an awesome idea! The preggers look would be down right Creepy!

WOW just WOW amazing work. Can't wait to see more

Sersi this project is truly awe inspiring.
From concept art to the actual sculpting work you are raising the bar.

I hope your getting employment from your skills and this isnt just something that festers in your brain during the daily grind.


The pregnant defiler is a pretty harrowing idea, like something out of John Carpenter's "The Thing"

By thunder this is an inspiring blog. I wish I'd found it months ago.

Design sketches for Soulgrinder #1:

So...I've been thinking about the Soul Grinder counts as model, and have decided to go with Gameandwatch's and The_Chaplain's excellent ideas, and came up with um....this wonderfully daemonic homage to motherhood. :lol:



This is the basic idea the engine was formed from the body of an eldar Farseer. Here's the idea engine is a womb where slaaneshi daemons form. An idea stolen from the Ultramarine Omnibus, where the Iron Warriors used grotesquely deformed women to birth new fully grown space marines! Ewe!



And no the tooth maw is not what your thinking... It didn't even occur to me until my wife pointed it out. Still I think it fits for Slaanesh. Disturbing, no?


While looking through online pictures of pregnant women for research I came across, this:



Apparently, its done with a temporary dye called Henna. The important thing is that is got me thinking a painting and intricate Eldar/Slaaneshi design on the belly.

So, anyway that's one of my Soulgrinder ideas. Things to do:

1. The drawing was done to scale so all I have to do is photo-copy it to use as a guide for my armature.
2. The design is not chaotic enough so I'll need to work on some detailing sketches.
3. Since the sculpture is rather large I'll be using gray super sculpey firm and casting the final model.

I need feedback of the design:

- I've drawn her with 8 arms, but as pointed out six would be better for Slaanesh. Which pair of arms should I remove? The ones on the ground supporting her weight have to remain. While the ones cradling her belly are fundamental to the idea.

- It needs some method of movement legs like a defiler, or perhaps a winged dais, or something?

- I've considered have one set of ares either clutching Slaanesh iconography or having sculpted flames coming from the palms of the hands.

- While the mouth is currently open should she be either blind folded or gagged, S&M style? To much?

- How should I represent the Soulgrinder's weapons?

Please be brutal in your critiques, I can take it.

- While the mouth is currently open should she be either blind folded or gagged, S&M style? To much?

Hell, why not both? I don't think it would be too much. Honestly if anyone did have anything against a very softcore S&M theme like that they'd probably take issues with the nudity, too, and of course it's already too late to backtrack on that.

Now if you started sculpting giant horse cocks, or tooth-filled vagin-err...

Anyway, I say it should be mounted on some kind of dais, I like the idea of crab legs more than wings, myself. As for weapons I'd prefer something biomechanical-looking, like a Giger painting. Something that's unmistakeably a gun but with alien-looking tubes or spikes and stuff.

Seriously - this thread is like a clive barker movie.

This work is just gorgeous.

Sidstyler wrote:

- While the mouth is currently open should she be either blind folded or gagged, S&M style? To much?

Hell, why not both? I don't think it would be too much. Honestly if anyone did have anything against a very softcore S&M theme like that they'd probably take issues with the nudity, too, and of course it's already too late to backtrack on that.

Now if you started sculpting giant horse cocks, or tooth-filled vagin-err...

Anyway, I say it should be mounted on some kind of dais, I like the idea of crab legs more than wings, myself. As for weapons I'd prefer something biomechanical-looking, like a Giger painting. Something that's unmistakeably a gun but with alien-looking tubes or spikes and stuff.

Oh, I've been studying my Giger and Brom for ideas. Bio-mechanic weapons seem the way to go. The challenge will be to make is chaotic and alien, yet sexy at the same time. I think your right on the S&M themes, having gone this far there is no good reason to shy away now. It's not like I ever intend to use this particular army at a GW store. By the way you would be surprised by the number of toothed orifices that come up on official GW Slaanesh art. Typically the nipples are replace with mouth, eyes, etc. That said I'll be leaving what below the belt on my daemons to the imagination. Decency...and all that.

First of all, thank you Sersi for the positive comments about my feedback, that's a rare commodity on the interbutts nowadays.

In my opinion, if you want to remove a set of arms- I'd go with the ones that are sticking out to the sides- as they aren't really [i]doing[i] anything. If you still want slaanesh iconography I'd just do "henna" tatoos on the soulgrinders body to get that across.

As for the crab legs... why not a central dais made to look like a reclining chair or even a bed-like deal ala Hedonism Bot from the show Futurama


I think that it could look very good once it's done. BTW, don't go for the ball gag with holes in it look-- screams carry through them, such is not the case with a solid rubber ball. ....Don't ask how I know that though

Well, I wouldn't go for a ball gag anyway, I was imagining a piece of cloth or something around the mouth and eyes...

This is a fantastic blog with some amazing sculpting! Really grade A work.

Although I must admit after reading the last few posts I felt like catpeelers Avatar... teeth wombs....

If you want to remove a pair of arms, personally, I would go for the outstreched ones, they seem the least important

Dunno weather this is a stupid idea or not, but how about putting her on a golden bed/throne kind of thing with 6 legs?

Revisions yeah!

Okay I got lots of great feedback on this from various boards.





I need to thanks the following people for the input on this model:

Gameandwatch: for the idea of using a pregnant machine/daemon...inspiring!
The_chaplain: for the references he provided for the pose, which I have stolen shamelessly.
HK-47: for suggesting keeping the up raised hands to represent the Harvester.
Deraj: for the idea of shackling the supporting arms.
Khanaris: for the hard critique on the belly mouth looking far to pornographic.
Qui-Gon Jinn: for the hard critique on the soul grinder needing to be machine-like, and far less organic.
Nesbitt_bub1: for the idea of rotating the model 45 degrees, and Gigeresque tubing, and a few others not incorporated here yet.
Sidstyler: for being honest enoguh to say dude that just is wrong.
And everyone who's provided me feedback past, seriously thanks guys.



I'll comment on these more but I gotta get to work. Later!

Alright, so far...awesome!

My problems:
Mainly just the gun barrel coming out of the stomach...more of just the fact that it is protruding from the stomach. I think you might be better off with a slightly indented gaping hole(sae size as the gun barrel) apposed to the gun barrel itself.

Slannesh is all about pleasure...well perverse pleasure upon more and more perversity. To be really twisted, you could think about the hole in the stomach as a 'glory hole' (yikes) at the same time a hole in a pregnant woman's stomach.

This in my opinion simply gives too much away, where as with the other idea its like a poke your finger in and see whats in there idea, Slannesh feeding that common curiosity complex with a nasty suprise!

Oh and thanks for the compliment! Art backround comes in handy on occasion!

PS Last minute thought, I know your goin for the super sexy and all, but if you do go for my 'hole' idea, I suggest slight wrinkling or linear tearing around the hole, as if something had ripped the walls or something.... man this is grosse haha!


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OH!! one other thing, how is this model supposed to move around, I mean you could say being a former psycher it just hovers across the battlefield, actually I like that Idea sorda like a shiva on a cloud! When its done, you should mount it on one of those large skimmer bases!!

Looks good and the idea is nice, but I would make the soulgrinder a little different:

I found this pic from Clive Barker's Action Figure Series "Lost Souls":



Make a female version of it with additional arms and put a Nid-Chaos-Hellcanon-style cannon into the opend belly.

I wouldn't make it too gigeresque, because it would be a break. The whole army looks more angelic-fleshly, so I think, a "Species"-like, bionic machine wouldn't be suitable to the rest.

Gameandwatch:

Oh so you prefer an innie over an outie? At the moment I'm thinking of using mechanical crab legs, as several people have pointed out that its supposed to be a walker...Doh! So she's basicly a giant sized "Penetent Engine". The occupant be preserve in a state of perpetual pain and exstacy. A living monument to the Master/Mistress of Sensation.

Logan:

Thanks for the input, I love the model, its definitly chaotic. But that just ain't sexy!

The_chaplain: for the references he provided for the pose, which I have stolen shamelessly.

Just glad to be of help. PM me if you need any input Sersi, and as always, looking forward to more progress pics!

I really do love how this army is coming together, amazing work Sersi...

Now, about the soul grinder...

I think the pregnant idea is great, and you seem to be doing rather nicely with your designs to far, however I do have a few suggestions.

One being that I think you should keep her eyes visible, or at least refrain from the dome-visor thing you've got there. Covering that much of her face hides a lot that could be used to work with you regarding the details of her expression. You may find it more effective to have the eyes and brow visible to help reinforce the 'it hurts but I'm enjoying it' concept.

Also, the lack of the obligatory Slaanesh 'crab claw' is bugging me just a bit, and I think that if done right, adding one or two of those will really help you here.

After all, this is going to end up as basically a keeper of secrets strapped to a mechanical spider-tank of doom as she's 'giving birth' to chaotic warp energies... right?

lol

Just some suggestions, I'm sure it'll be amazing either way.

eeesh nasty lookin....

That final Concept sketch looks awesome !

When it's done it should look fantastic, Seriously, these are turning out really well, I presume the belly si where the cannon is that circular like thing in the middle of it?

Pregnant defiler eh?
Hows this?
sorry best pic i could find

Sidstyler: for being honest enoguh to say dude that just is wrong.

Aww, I was joking...but honestly I think what you have now is much better anyway. The revision I mean.

The whole army looks more angelic-fleshly, so I think, a "Species"-like, bionic machine wouldn't be suitable to the rest.

I disagree, in fact I think it's perfect and will fit in well with the rest of the army.

Why? Because that's exactly what the soulgrinder is, machine and flesh combined. None of the other demons in the GW line have mechanical bits on them, the soulgrinder is the only one that does. I dunno, it makes sense to me, and I don't think it would look any more out of place in this army than it would in a standard GW demons army.

Wow, getting lots of amazing feedback here!

The_chaplain:

- Thanks for the offer, I'm sure I'll be PM-ing you sooner than later.

Karoline Dianne:

- Thanks for the reply. My thinking on the head was that the dome over her eyes was a computer/viewer screen showing heretical imagery capable of warping the mind and corrupting the soul. I could be smaller though, and take up less of the face.

- I'll definitely try to work in claws, when I design the legs.

ShotgunFacelift:

- Nasty as in that's sick but I can't stop looking at it? If so that's what I going for. Thanks!

Wolf:

- Thanks. Yeah, the short barrel is intended to be the Maw cannon, although I'll likely change it to and indented design.

Typhus:

- I'll need to study this design but it looks to have allot of potential. But it looks like I could easily remove the legs from the design, and merge everything from the waist down into a mechanical spider body based on this design. I need three Soulgrinders anyway, so its definietely something I'll be taking a closer look at. Thanks!

Sidstyler:

- I figured you were joking, but I still value the input. While, I couldn't be bribed to enter a GW store...and only ever play adults. Its still easy to take Slaaneshi themes to far.

- I'm thinking that the soulgrinder should be a combination of hard metal parts and soft organic flesh. So, in the nest revision I'll try to incorporate that.

So I've been thinking, Yes dangerous I know.

So, anyway. I still need to come up with a way to represent: plaguebearers and nurglings.

Now, Slaves to Darkness mentions the "Tormented" which are kinda these slaaneshi zombie-slave things. That got me thinking about converting grave ghouls and putting them in gimp-suits: leather hoods and loin cloths most likely. Afterall, the Sisters and Inquisition already have "church sanctioned Gimps...excuse me...arco-flagellants. And Slaanesh is not one to be outdone with regard to fetish.

For nurglings. How about daemonic version of the munchkins from the Wizard of Oz / Umpalumpas from Willie Wonka for nurglings? Creepy, no?