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It took over a week from notification of dispatch to delivery but it finally arrived. I wasn't too impressed with £8 delivery charge for something that was dropped through the letterbox by the postie but it was undamaged. And, I have to say, it looks the business - the slipcover, art and 'metal boxes' packaging all look slick.

As far as the actual movie goes, I really enjoyed it. My expectations weren't too high but even taking that into account I had a fun time watching it. I thought the animation wasn't too bad (opening sword sparring and occasional moonwalking aside) and the hardware looked suitably bulky and impressive (I soooo want a Landspeeder for myself ).

Having said that:



Also, did that heavy bolter leave shell casings all over the place when it fired?

I wasn't too impressed with the comic book. OK, so it added some back story but it seemed a little muddy and badly-paced.

Overall, quite happy with it and I'd certainly shell out for the next one.

I know the difference between a customer and an investor but thank you for the info.

Because:



Yes, they left casings. Bolters are NOT caseless ammunition - check every model you have which has a case ejection port on it, as well as the "bolter casing" water pot in the old master paint brush set.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
I saw the money i spent *now* to be an investment in getting more 40k films in the future, as well as getting an immediate return in the shape of the film, etc.

I think this just illustrates the key difference in our opinions and why they are so different. Much like the Space Marine game coming out in march (?) I bought this film hoping for and thinking I was going to get a high quality product that was going to be very entertaining. I did not think I was investing in the future productions of the company. I mean I thought the main weakness would be the CGI as the top end stuff is difficult to do and expensive but I thought the story line would be pretty water tight. In answer to one of your previous posts I have just counted the BL books in my library and there are: 55 including 6 omnibuses, I also have every audio book. I admit I haven't read to of the books because they are by C.S Goto and that is like going back to a bad one night stand. I would say fluff wise I am pretty well read and I have a reasonably good understanding of the back ground after playing for 18 years. On the basis of that knowledge IMO this movie was not consistent WITH THE MAJORITY of the fluff I have read.

I have received an email back from Codex picture apologising for the overcharge, they have put it down to an error with their website and have already refunded the money so happy days on that front.

Finally I just wanted to say I really wanted to like this movie which is probably why I am so pissed off I didn't.

WEll, they cant please everyone. They have pleased the majority (judging by the responses on here, anyway) and that is *notoriously* tricky to do with rabid fans

The point I was making is that this film is not perfectly in line with fluff. But neither is the first GG novel (has an STC making products rather than being clever blueprints), Thousand Suns (has Nikaea outlawing ALL psychics, not just sorcery) and so on - the whole point of 40k it seems is that they arent consistent.

As for comparing libraries - i never bought CS Goto as i know toilet paper when i see it (friends did actually use it as toilet paper...) but i do have about 70 - 80 BL book,s, 90+% 40k (the time of legends fantasy series is awesome however, love nagash) and as many of the art and additional books as i can. Have a copy of rouge trader somewhere....

So is this film *any more* inconsistent with fluff than the average codex or BL book? No. the only inconsistency that can be found is the Crozius powers. I cant think of anything else that cannot be explained away / hasnt been seen before.

nosferatu1001 wrote: Bolters are NOT caseless ammunition - check every model you have which has a case ejection port on it, as well as the "bolter casing" water pot in the old master paint brush set.

Thanks for the clarifications, Nos. Missed the relic explanation when I watched it! I dunno why I assumed bolters were caseless rounds (always took the ejection ports to be there in case of dud propulsion / jams). I'l bear that in mind in future.

Some fluff used to claim they were before swiftly being kicked into touch I remember being in Games Workshop Peterborough and some of the red shirts were arguing about it.

Yep, there has definitely been fluff stating they were caseless, but definitely not according to the majority of it.

From Codex, those who actually liked their product will be interested in this:

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We are pleased to announce the launch of the ULTRAMARINES Widget, which gives you access to the latest desktops, exclusive ringtones, a look inside the graphic novel and clips from the movie.

Yay... got mine... 4pm 24 Dec... I know the limitations of the movie, and I thought it was great

Mik

I enjoyed the film, but I felt it was very short.

It was literally, into shrine, out of shrine, Kill deamon.

Just though it would be more..


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I enjoyed the film, but I felt it was very short.

It was literally, into shrine, out of shrine, Kill deamon.

Just though it would be more..

Sighface, still waiting for my copy, it is now well over 2 weeks ago that I got my shipping confirmation :(.

[edit]woot it was actually in the mailroom, guess that happens when you dont come to work two days [/edit]

It's a comparatively low budget short film made by a small production company aimed at the 40k audience and them alone. To that end, it's a winner. I enjoyed it.

I imagine the lack of support from GW for this film is mainly due to their unwillingness to associate themselves with it too much when some fans are inevetibly going to do nothing other than slate the crap out of it. And that started after the first trailer.

I hope they make another.

I don't know if it was the mushrooms i took when i watched it, but man i couldn't stop laughing at the derp faces these marines had. They used every trick in the book to hide that ugly ass, chicken legged demon prince too lol. They moved a lot like the cut scenes on a ps1 game also but I'll have to watch the movie again, because those mushrooms hit me real hard around the time that chaos showed up so the demons were really fething with my brain! At one point the smoke came out of the tv and the demons face was all warped and crazy looking which made is so fething awesome to see them fight it. I'd have to say, the best part of this movie was... the mushrooms =).

Magic Mushrooms are the most overated halucinogen ever and from my experience I can't understand how you could have had such a vivid experience from them. I guess they must have come on a bit since I had anything to do with them.

You're assuming he's even done shrooms...

Now here's something I thought would interest people, especially those who are dead-set against downloading stuff and insistent that it does nothing but hurt companies and make them lose money. Someone apparently uploaded the movie on YouTube, and I was linked to it today, figured it wouldn't be long before it was taken down, and so I gave up an hour to watch it. I didn't really like the look of this movie from the trailers at all, and didn't really plan on buying it, even if they release a regular DVD at a reasonable (lol) price. After watching it on YouTube however I think I might just pick it up later, assuming they do another release without the extras.

If it weren't for that upload to YT I'd have never watched it otherwise, and would never have considered buying it. Even though I saw a lot of fluff inconsistencies, which make no sense considering they knew no one but hardcore 40k fans would be watching this anyway...I thought it was okay for what it was.

Ok, fine, assume that i didn't. But BELIEVE this! DERP DERP DERP FACE! He's from the Shar-Pei chapter!

My copy of this movie arrived soon after the email saying it had been shipped. I thought all the anger about the delay was (as usual) kind of out of proportion to what had happened. Clearly, the movie's producers been let down late in the day by one of the suppliers of the additional bits (I'm guessing an aspect of the packaging). In that situation, you tend to cross your fingers and hope if there's any chance of fixing the screw-up without having to say anything; I suspect that's what they did, then they had to email everyone when the problem wasn't resolved in time. It's mildly annoying, but didn't justify the hyperbole - from some of the vitriolic comments, you'd think it was GW itself that had stuffed up...

I just watched it, and I thought it was pretty good. It managed to negotiate its way around most of the sci-fi pitfalls, although once they decided to go with a Chaos-themed story there was always going to be someone who got possessed. But the atmosphere was appropriately dark and ominous, and the characters were reasonably distinctive (quite a feat when you're making a movie about a bunch of blokes encased in armour). In the end, the weakest aspect was the animation, and you have to accept it as the best they could do with the budget, or you won't enjoy it. Some other notable good points:

- it felt 'right'. Barring a couple of moments, it was the WH40k world as I think most of us imagine it, and there were quite a few scenes where it really came to life. It never quite reaches the heights of the Dow intro (still probably the best WH40k battle scene ever) but it gets close. Using a British cast was important, since in the end the Marines are stiff upper lip knightly types and not cigar-chewing grunts, and the voice acting is pretty good. Some of you have questioned some fluff points, like the shell casings. Considering that GW depicts bolters ejecting shell casings, I don't have a problem with it. Perhaps they could have shown them reloading a bit, given their prodigious ammunition consumption, but it's a small point.

- the sound was quite good, and not over-the-top (but see the comment below regarding the power armour.

- the music is good too, and the use of medieval-inspired music works well. One of the advantages of making it in Wales is the ready availability of male choirs!

- they kept it simple, with the focus being on the members of the squad, and didn't try to overload the story with big entrances by flashy toys like Dreadnoughts.

The bits that didn't work so well:

- the faces, which really don't have enough movement in them. I think too many of them were old blokes as well; Marines live a long time, but too many of them were more cadaverous than grizzled.

- the Marines didn't really walk convincingly. There wasn't enough of a sense of their weight (which would be considerable). This was partly an animation issue - they had a slightly odd walk - and partly an issue with the sound; essentially their armour didn't make enough noise. I would have preferred more whining servos and clanking noises to emphasise the fact that they're wearing heavy, powered armour.

Overall, I'd say it was a pretty good first go - superior to a lot of low budget sci-fi films, and very true to the WH40k world, but let down somewhat by animation issues (and, in my opinion, the ultimately predictable nature of Chaos-themed plots). If they can get the animation up a couple of notches, and keep the scriptwriting solid, then they can expand the scope of it and introduce more of the stuff that everyone wants to see. While I love Orks, I think it would be too difficult to keep the tone right, and they'd be better off looking at Necrons or nids as a focus for the next one.

Just downloaded it.

I'm really not impressed. Sub-par animation can be (mostly) forgiven, but wow was the story mediocre.

I was rooting for the demon.

Should they (codex, gw, or any other) ever release something else, I will watch it first and buy it after...if I feel it meets my expectations. I'm not one to support growing pains out of my pocket. I will however, be expecting GW to sanction a great movie to attract consumers to their universe in the future, that will be a movie I support. Each acting in their own self interest.