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Thanks for the clarification Melissia!

I loved the mission in DoW: Chaos Rising where you get those 2 squads of Guardsmen. Playing online with my friend, we argued over who got either squad...

It was very fun IMO, and we laughed at how easily they cut down CSMs. I wonder how resiliant they will be in Retribution. I suspect for them to be cut down pretty quickly, only having slightly better armor and health than gaunts, or maybe slightly better than the Guardsmen in Chaos Rising.

I wonder if you will be able to upgrade the base squads of Guardmen, or if they will just have a level equal to the average of your current deployed characters.

IIRC, their power is dependant on what heroes you have, but the fewer heroes you have deployed, the more squads you can have.

Mass meat shield for 1 hero, or A few elite troops for a few, choices choices...

Yeah, I was right. If you choose to have squads instead of a hero, your pop cap is raised.

Nice, We hold the line with Straight Fething Silver

So, as of never Prepurchasing anything; do I just spend the $29.99 now, and then it just unlocks for me to download, or what?

I really want that Chaos Pack.

Are you buying it off Steam?

If yes: then yeah. That's how it works.

I really don't see why people are buying the "normal" editions rather than the collector's. It gives you no content for MP, and if you want the rest later you have to buy it for(most likely) $5/pack.

Mostly because I've been struck with the crippling condition of "couldn't be arsed".

I am quite excited for this release, but I worry that the Imperial Guard will be as indomitable as the British in Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts. Reading about their 'defensive capability' concerns me greatly.

Goddard wrote:I am quite excited for this release, but I worry that the Imperial Guard will be as indomitable as the British in Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts. Reading about their 'defensive capability' concerns me greatly.

The Imperial Guard should also get Creeping Barrage.

Goddard wrote:I am quite excited for this release, but I worry that the Imperial Guard will be as indomitable as the British in Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts. Reading about their 'defensive capability' concerns me greatly.

Bah, that's the same as the Guard was in DoW.

My guess is they are going to get steamrolled early game, and become nigh immovable later on.

The Imperial Guard should also get Creeping Barrage.

They do actually, haha.

Bah, that's the same as the Guard was in DoW.

My guess is they are going to get steamrolled early game, and become nigh immovable later on.

I never played the first DoW, but all I know is the British in Opposing Fronts were developed after IG, and I fear that it may still be fresh in their minds.

Even if they put them in exactly like hte british, it wouldn't be as unbalancing as it is in CoH.

There's a lot more counters to suppression in this game making the balance different.

Are the commissars still voiced by the same guy that did Bison?

Given that Raúl Juliá has been dead since 1994, no

One thing that currently has me stumped is the pricing.

You can pre-order a hard copy from THQ for 29.99, and the CE for 39.99, yet a pre-order on Steam is 59.99.

It does say USD, even logged out, so I'm guessing it's not the usual Australian inflation (Australia, the place where we can actually trade higher than the US dollar, and still pay double the price for games). If it is however, it makes more sense, just have to work out a way to order the American version.

Err, what?

I pre-ordered it on steam for 30 bucks.

edit: Yep, just checked, still thirty bucks on Steam. It's definitely aussie inflation.

Alright, thanks for the tip. Just have to gift it to myself from an American account I guess.

Seriously, whoever decided that prices should stay the same when the Aussie dollar rocketed up should be shot.....why I should pay double price when the Australian dollar might as well currently be equivalent to the US dollar is beyond me.

Actually, it is currently very, very close to even.

100 AUS = 99.64 USD.

Indeed. It was actually the higher of the two a few weeks ago.

Just one of those things inspired by greed I suppose. GW could do the same thing, and I might actually buy models inside the country again (No sense in paying $60 for a squad of tactical marines when I can buy them in the UK for under $30).

THAT is an issue which is so complex that they just try not to think about.

http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar2/portals.php?show=page&name=imperial-guard-wargear-preview

List of multiplayer wargear for Imperial Guard commanders.

Nice find. But I'm really not at all impressed by that equipment list.

She looks like she woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning....yikes!

Gonna admit, the equipment has turned me off the Inquisitor, at least at a glance, but the Commissar Lord equipment looks interesting, and has inspired a wanting to play him that wasn't around before reading the list.

So, let me get this straight: In multiplayer AND singleplayer, for the Imperial Guard, you can either have many troops with few heroes, or you can have few troops with many heroes that give you bonuses to your troops?

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Nice find. But I'm really not at all impressed by that equipment list.

You're aware that the equipment list for multiplayer is always pretty lackluster for the DoW2 games yeah?

You get a piece of equipment available as an upgrade, and it enables certain skills. Equipment for single player is going to be much different.

Slarg232 wrote:So, let me get this straight: In multiplayer AND singleplayer, for the Imperial Guard, you can either have many troops with few heroes, or you can have few troops with many heroes that give you bonuses to your troops?

Nope. In single player, that is true.

In multiplayer, you have one commander. Infantry squads (and possibly Catachan Devil squads) are upgraded with vet sergeants and commissars to increase squad size and grant abilities regardless of commander choice.

Nothing to see here, move along citizen.

Kanluwen wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Nice find. But I'm really not at all impressed by that equipment list.

You're aware that the equipment list for multiplayer is always pretty lackluster for the DoW2 games yeah?

You get a piece of equipment available as an upgrade, and it enables certain skills. Equipment for single player is going to be much different.

Having owned every single other Dawn of War game, I know how it works. Although I wouldn't describe some heroes' wargear as lackluster.

A 20p upgrade that makes squads immune to supression? Does it say what tier that is?