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**AgeOfEgos**

brassangel wrote:
In the end, it's still a game, and you have to be social in order to properly communicate and convey what's going on. When you just silently go about your business, without asking or answering questions, and some of the moves you make are viewed as questionable (yet you say nothing), it makes perfect sense to score said player low.

This game can't not be social, unless it moved 100% online like Magic: the Gathering. And for the record, MtGO has created a lot of douchebag players who have no social skills whatsoever. In the end, it's a game that requires some measure of social interaction.

Even poker players playing for millions of dollars are social at the table. People with your mentality are what's wrong with tournaments. Your attitude should go away. It is ridiculous.

I highlighted those thoughts for one reason: More people are picking a list that is exceedingly forgiving instead of learning the army inside-and-out. When piloted by an amazing general, the stats showed that Black Templars, Orks, and Eldar were the top of the crop. The Space Wolves were in such high numbers because it's the easiest codex to dart-board without falling flat on one's face. Imperial Guard units come with complicated rules, and thus reward good play, while Space Wolves units can "hur-dee-dur" their way to success due to sheer versatility vs. points cost.

I'm not saying the codex is broken, because it's not. But it does offer the most forgiving options.

Good post dude---I agree with the social aspect of the hobby. When you spend 2-3 hours rolling dice----it's absolutely a social contract. When I spend time playing a game with someone----I recognize that he's taking time away from his wife/children/family in hopes to having some fun playing a silly game. I recognize that and act accordingly---and I expect the same from him. This doesn't mean I hug guys when they roll dice and give them back massages after they move 90 Orks---but I do try to joke around a bit, pick out something I like about his army/compliment him on it----and be as clear as possible on what I'm doing (Moving this unit to establish line of sight here---I can see right?).

RE: Top tier lists----I mostly agree with you. I would just add that tournament organizers can have a tremendous impact on what lists become top tier. For example, if a tournament awards 5 KP for each vehicle destroyed----yet only 1 KP for each non-vehicle unit---it will greatly affect the lists built for the event. At first, I thought it was just Razorspam/Gunline that wiped the tournament----but I'll eat crow now after seeing the lists and admit I was quite wrong. I consider this a credit to Adepticon's mission creation. I like seeing different lists having a go----variety is good for everyone.