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Kilkrazy wrote:Can I just drag the thread back on topic and ask if I understand the original post?

The staff at a GW shop made a terrain piece depicting the staff at a GW shop as skeletons in a GW shop.

They got sacked.

Is that the story?

The staff at a GW shop, which were known for being insolent towards the regional management, were told to make a terrain piece for Games Day Los Angeles' big event table.

They made a piece depicting themselves at their shop, chained to their job after death, and sent it in.

They got fired later, for reasons not necessarily related to the piece in question.

And from what I read...this all happened 7 years ago yes?

Mr Mystery wrote:And from what I read...this all happened 7 years ago yes?

You got it.

It must be that we're all at work, going back and forth over something that happened seven years ago with such fervor. Well at least we'll all have money for more minatures.

Eilif wrote:

Frazzled wrote:[Wherever you work. You're suggesting its over reacting. Go ahead and see if your current employer agrees with you.

We're still talking at cross purposes. Your suggestion of a violent drawing would clearly not be acceptable anyhere (except possibly an avant-guard art gallery), whereas the situation I was defending is unique to the GW context.

Any employer taking action against a violent picture in no way contradicts my assessment of the situation posed by the OP.

mikhaila wrote:[I own two comic book and game stores. I haven't worked for anyone but myself for 25 years. I'm about as 'non-corporate' as you can get.
I sell superheroes and space marines for a living. My eyes are pretty far from a 'buttoned up corporate entitiy'.
That said, I stand by my comments. I'd have fired their asses for doing that.
But I'd have kept the piece of scenery, taken it home, and put it on my gaming table. If you lop off heads, you keep the trophy.

Ouch!

Frazzled wrote:NOw here's the interesting Q. If for store use they have a ruin table, and leave off the bodies, would anyone have a problem with it?

This is a good question. I would direct it mikhaila. Would you fire the employees if they built a burned out model of the store without the bodies?

There was nothing wrong with the model whatsoever. Very cool piece of work. I'd be happy if one of my employees made that. However:
-If he spent 20 hours of work on it, that makes 200.00 I paid him to build it. Not sure if I'm as happy as I would be if he just built it on his own time.
-If he didn't get the work done that his was supposed to be doing. I'd be less happy.
-If he used the diaroma to direct something at me or my wife, (Closest things to higher ups in my shop.), I'd have to decide if it was appropriate or inappropriate.

Good piece of scenery, but they went 0-3 by making it on store time, not getting the work done they were supposed to do, and sending an inappropriate message.

Beware of doing stupid things for it will get you sooner or later. I bet those former employees are just laughing at the situation.

They may made their point and have lost the battle 7 years ago, but the unforeseeable events that unfolded in the future, can bite you in the yaya's, adding to GW's already bad reputation.

I think we should remake what has been unmade. There are enough pictures to recreate it.

Just a thought.

mikhaila wrote:There was nothing wrong with the model whatsoever. Very cool piece of work. I'd be happy if one of my employees made that. However:
-If he spent 20 hours of work on it, that makes 200.00 I paid him to build it. Not sure if I'm as happy as I would be if he just built it on his own time.
-If he didn't get the work done that his was supposed to be doing. I'd be less happy.
-If he used the diaroma to direct something at me or my wife, (Closest things to higher ups in my shop.), I'd have to decide if it was appropriate or inappropriate.

Good piece of scenery, but they went 0-3 by making it on store time, not getting the work done they were supposed to do, and sending an inappropriate message.

Just to clarify, if the employee either asked permission or did it on his own time you'd have no problem as long as it wasn't directed at you or your family?

That's pretty cool of you. I'd like to work for you, but you couldn't afford me.

It is worth noting that the staff of the store -who presumably were involved in building the piece- were the ones who were depicted as dead and chained, not upper-level management.