Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.


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Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.

There

And so the chain of quotes goes ever on.

And on, and on, until the MODquisition

It'd be pretty hilarious if they just popped up screaming, "Noooooobody expects the Modquisition!"

Unfortunately I must leave you all to continue the infinite quote.

And so we will.

Should we talk about something else now?

Only if you want to do it in really long quotes.

Whoa... I leave for like, 12 hours, and this.... this... work of art is born?? I feel like this should somehow be commemorated.

Just think if we can get one post to be as long as a page we will become gods and own the Internetz

Well I think that this is a worthy goal! Is there any limit on how long a post can be?

No Idea we shall see

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.


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Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.

There

And so the chain of quotes goes ever on.

And on, and on, until the MODquisition

It'd be pretty hilarious if they just popped up screaming, "Noooooobody expects the Modquisition!"

Unfortunately I must leave you all to continue the infinite quote.

And so we will.

Should we talk about something else now?

Only if you want to do it in really long quotes.

Whoa... I leave for like, 12 hours, and this.... this... work of art is born?? I feel like this should somehow be commemorated.

Just think if we can get one post to be as long as a page we will become gods and own the Internetz

Well I think that this is a worthy goal! Is there any limit on how long a post can be?

No Idea we shall see

It'll be an adventure! And at the end, we'll have learned 3 things.
1. We will have been remade as gods.
2. We may find out just how long posts can be.
3. We will find out just how much time we have on our hands...

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.

There

And so the chain of quotes goes ever on.

And on, and on, until the MODquisition

It'd be pretty hilarious if they just popped up screaming, "Noooooobody expects the Modquisition!"

Unfortunately I must leave you all to continue the infinite quote.

And so we will.

Should we talk about something else now?

Only if you want to do it in really long quotes.

Whoa... I leave for like, 12 hours, and this.... this... work of art is born?? I feel like this should somehow be commemorated.

Just think if we can get one post to be as long as a page we will become gods and own the Internetz

Well I think that this is a worthy goal! Is there any limit on how long a post can be?

No Idea we shall see

It'll be an adventure! And at the end, we'll have learned 3 things.
1. We will have been remade as gods.
2. We may find out just how long posts can be.
3. We will find out just how much time we have on our hands...

It's incredibly annoying to scroll down to see what you say then back up to quote it, but it will be worth it. Also notice how thin the center posts are getting.

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.


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Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.

There

And so the chain of quotes goes ever on.

And on, and on, until the MODquisition

It'd be pretty hilarious if they just popped up screaming, "Noooooobody expects the Modquisition!"

Unfortunately I must leave you all to continue the infinite quote.

And so we will.

Should we talk about something else now?

Only if you want to do it in really long quotes.

Whoa... I leave for like, 12 hours, and this.... this... work of art is born?? I feel like this should somehow be commemorated.

Just think if we can get one post to be as long as a page we will become gods and own the Internetz

Well I think that this is a worthy goal! Is there any limit on how long a post can be?

No Idea we shall see

It'll be an adventure! And at the end, we'll have learned 3 things.
1. We will have been remade as gods.
2. We may find out just how long posts can be.
3. We will find out just how much time we have on our hands...

It's incredibly annoying to scroll down to see what you say then back up to quote it, but it will be worth it. Also notice how thin the center posts are getting.

Definitely worth it. And it raises the suspense, too!

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

hellspawn22 wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.


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Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:Why didn't you quote me? Then we could have had:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

TrollPie wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

TrollPie wrote:
In short, the Imperium isn't the dominant faction in 40k. That title would go to Chaos, if anything.

True, Imperium is most powerful when it comes to military might in the galaxy and unity. Chaos is stronger because Chaos work on a different level ( in another realm ), witch is basicly cheating. But we have many ways to overcome them ( Necron pylons, the Tau, the Eldar, Grey Knights... ). And aldo Imperium is decentralized empire all planets work together in the Imperium toward the grater good of Mankind. Since they all know that they will stand together or die alone.

In military might Necrons or Daemons take the cake. And, while everyone in the Imperium is working towards the survival of mankind, they will always place their own lives above those of the masses. As I said, every organisation has their own agenda and won't necassarily serve just the Imperium.


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Brother Coa wrote:
For TrollPie: "The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbor by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control."

Political entity. Emphasis on that; while technically they are united under one banner, in reality corruption, backstabbing and treachery are rife.

Your still missing the point the Imperium is the most powerful Empire in the 40K universe at this moment that is a fact stated in canon, nobody is saying that this is changing, because that also is canon. You talk about backstabbing and infighting being the reason why the Imperium is weak, yet call chaos more powerful. The necrons right now are not stronger than the Imperium, they could be but they are not now. I don't know why you think demons are more powerful because 1. they are not an empire and 2. They are one of the rarest things in 40K because they need the veil to be thin between worlds. Every empire will eventually have infighting as well, Eldar war in heaven, Tau farsight, Orks do it 24/7, C'tan eat each other. Chaos backstab twice as much as the IOM, in reality of 40K we are all screwed

Again, it isn't a completely united empire. Each planet is a semi-independent nation that's often hundreds of light years from their nearest neighbour. Every aspect of the Imperium is scattered across the galaxy and can't rely on anyone helping them. If the Imperium was more densely packed and Warp travel was more reliable, they would be the most powerful force in the galaxy. As it is, they are in no way dominant.
Edit: And the War in Heaven wasn't a civil war.

Source for them not being able to help each other, we do have warp drives. It is said explicitly in fluff that they are currently the dominant race, and that they are falling, who right now in this moment in 40K has more power than the IOM, without making up scenarios that may or may not happen such as orks uniting, Necrons waking up, or a massive hole tearing through reality allowing all the demons to come through.

Warp dries are the problem: they're so unreliable. The fractured and scattered state of the Imperium means that while their total power may be greater than that of any other force, they can't apply it effectively. The Imperium is the most powerful empire as a whole, but they aren't dominant- in the same way a lion is the most powerful creature in the forest, but it doesn't have power over the pack of hyenas.

Anyway, this is off topic and I'm going to lose this arguement. Lets pretend it never happened and that I'm the genius you all used to think I am...

It is dominant, It isn't fighting a pack of hyenas that assumes it's enemies are unified, it's more like a lion fighting a cheeta a hyena a tiger and a wolf who are all also fighting each other. We should get back on topic though, anyone remember what we were talking about.

From OP:
"How large is the Tau Empire? In respects to the Imperium? ANd who are the Tau's biggest threat?"
That was answered on page one...so what have we been talking about for the last six and a half pages?

We were both sort of calling each other fanboys over and over Oh well it happens sometimes I blame GW

That always happens with Tau threads.

See what could have been? SEE???

You are right so much wasted potential I shall have to make up for it.

There

And so the chain of quotes goes ever on.

And on, and on, until the MODquisition

It'd be pretty hilarious if they just popped up screaming, "Noooooobody expects the Modquisition!"

Unfortunately I must leave you all to continue the infinite quote.

And so we will.

Should we talk about something else now?

Only if you want to do it in really long quotes.

Whoa... I leave for like, 12 hours, and this.... this... work of art is born?? I feel like this should somehow be commemorated.

Just think if we can get one post to be as long as a page we will become gods and own the Internetz

Well I think that this is a worthy goal! Is there any limit on how long a post can be?

No Idea we shall see

It'll be an adventure! And at the end, we'll have learned 3 things.
1. We will have been remade as gods.
2. We may find out just how long posts can be.
3. We will find out just how much time we have on our hands...

It's incredibly annoying to scroll down to see what you say then back up to quote it, but it will be worth it. Also notice how thin the center posts are getting.

Definitely worth it. And it raises the suspense, too!

Don't ruin it for us Kamikaze. If you want to post on this thread do it in quotes.