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Or maybe it's because they are pretend vikings... in space.

Hindenburg wrote:Or maybe it's because they are pretend vikings... in space.

What like Knights templar in space (GK)? Or Japanese inventors in space(Tau)? Or Aliens 1, 2, 3 and 4 (Tyranids)? Or Smurfs in space (UM)? Or Terminators 1, 2, 3 and 4 in space (Necrons)? Or catholicism in space (Witch hunters)?.....Oh the list goes on!!!!!!

Definately Space Wolves. Everybody that I know that playes them seems to be able to re-roll everything!

Somehow 9 Grey Hunters can survive being assaulted by 12 BA Assault Marines, a Librarian, and a Sanguinary Priest. And he basically refused to explain any of his rules.

All those things are better than pretend vikings.
I think Imperium Space Marines should have one codex. Codex: Space Marines.

Wulfen Andy wrote:Breaks my heart - all the space wolf hating

Us wolves are fangtastic (sorry very cheesy I know!!) anyways I hate passionately - Tau (because they are just annoyingly out of place in 40K - far too cheesy), dark eldar (as someone said about SW, DE are massively overhyped and have ludicrous traits such as copius inv saves and stupidly high initiative values) and Necron (because I think that the Terminator films were watched too much when they were 'designed'!).

So let us feel the love of the space wolves!!!! Oh by the way, someone stated that the SW have killed imperial forces with no backlash....well what about the GK killing a whole section of sisters of battle just to draw out a daemon?!?!?! What the *@+k, where's the backlash on that one?!?!?!?!?!

GO WOLVES!

Just thinking.....maybe all the SW hate is due to the fact that our army is so kick ass and people find them hard to deal with? Just a thought!

Half the Imperium doesn't know the Grey Knights or Demons exist, and they are authorized by the Inquisition to keep it that way. Plus wolves didn't have much of a reason compared to banishing a demon. Also they do have a good codex, but one that goes against all of the fluff written in it. Rawr we're space viking barbarian wolves that like close combat, so we're gonna sit back and shoot you with our extra cheap heavy weapons team. And to be honest I have yet to seen a wolf list that varies enough that I'm not completely prepared for it. I will admit that Space Vikings would be cool but not Wolf Space Wolf Viking Wolf Missile Launching Wolf Wolves

I hate the tau no offence to any tau players out there but they just ****ing gak me they seem like a challage untillyou get into assult range then they drop like flys

Wulfen Andy wrote:
Oh by the way, someone stated that the SW have killed imperial forces with no backlash....well what about the GK killing a whole section of sisters of battle just to draw out a daemon?!?!?! What the *@+k, where's the backlash on that one?!?!?!?!?!

Did you miss all the rage threads at that fluff piece? We've had at least a dozen.

Just thinking.....maybe all the SW hate is due to the fact that our army is so kick ass and people find them hard to deal with? Just a thought!

If by kick-ass you mean it's painfully undercosted, basically plays itself and encourages army builds that play more like Iron Warriors than Space Wolves...

Wulfen Andy wrote:

What like Knights templar in space (GK)? Or Japanese inventors in space(Tau)? Or Aliens 1, 2, 3 and 4 (Tyranids)? Or Smurfs in space (UM)? Or Terminators 1, 2, 3 and 4 in space (Necrons)? Or catholicism in space (Witch hunters)?.....Oh the list goes on!!!!!!

Except the other factions generally are able to stick to their concept without making it look silly, heck most are able to do it with some semblance of consistency

Oh well never mind! I have played and loved the space wolves since 2nd ed days. (Except when GW tried to slim down ALL marine chapters in 3rd ed). I really do love the fluff and I like the way they will fight for the imperium (sometimes better than most) but will not conform to the sycophantic dogma! I think the models look cool and love the wolf/wulfen aspects!

One question does make me wonder though - are there loads and loads of players who play space wolves?! And are people tired of facing them?

The one post someone put up about SW fielding certain types etc means that you have to adapt as warfare isn't fair! I would love to spank a horde of 'Nids without losing most of my SW! But I don't complain!

And the other types of stereotype? I cannot see where SW are different from smurfs in space or Catholicism in space really! Just because SW go along the Nordic mythology route certainly does not mean that it is the only line to copy from something previously known! Horus and betrayal?! My case is rested!!!!

I don't think anyone's saying they're the only stereotype, just that it was very poorly handled.

iproxtaco wrote:I don't think anyone's saying they're the only stereotype, just that it was very poorly handled.

This basically. There are a lot of pretty tired stereotypes in 40k. Space Wolves aren't even the worst. I'm looking at you elves in space.

Again what I said before:

Games Workshop- So much potential, squandered.

Space Wolves could be INCREDIBLY cool, instead of kinda.... just themselves.

That point has been repeated quite a few times over the last few pages. What are you trying to add to this?

Just that GW ruined my favorite army... and to newer players, and older one's, made them seem like a bunch of scumbags. That is alll.

Oh, and many points have been repeated often.

URGH, I HATE HATE THREADS!

Space Wolves.

Terrible concept and execution. Horrible fluff. It also doesn't hurt that the army plays the opposite of how it is suppose to.

Night's Blood wrote:Space Wolves.

Terrible concept and execution. Horrible fluff. It also doesn't hurt that the army plays the opposite of how it is suppose to.

This, and the fact they all sport revolting beards.

And that long-fangs are the biggest no-brainer in the entirety of 40k.