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Hello all, I played at the Nova today, was a blast. I didn't see any of the slowhammer at table one, sounds rough. I hope I can make it tomorrow with the hurricane...

Since I know Rick very well and he has described the game with Dash to me I figured I would mention two quick things.

1) According to Rick, Dash said "Ok, I'm done. Your turn." or something exactly analogous. Then Dash, who was standing for his turn, sat down. Rick stood up to begin his turn but before Rick had moved any models Dash said "wait, I didn't shoot this unit" or something exactly analogous. Rick said, "Um, no you ended your turn". The judge at the table sided with Rick, other judges were called over (Mike?) and supported the ruling and that was that.

So this is the other side of the story. Two questions present themselves. Was it cheating? and Was it acceptable sportsmanship? Judge for yourselves, I would say clearly no to the former and, considering the circumstance of this being THE competative tournament and the cash prize on the line, yes to the latter.

2) In response to the comment from Mrs. Dash implying drama over Ricks game vs. Aaron, I would call that fully unsupported and a fabrication. See, I played Aaron in round 2 (bastard narowly beat me! but alas, it was only close because I was rolling better so fair is fair) so me and him chatted during/after his round three game and, seeing him paired with Rick in round four, I walked by a few times and went over when my game finished early. It was very tight game with a good share of sillyness; Aaron had 4 TWC die to one manticore blast due to bad saves, but when Rick needed to ding another wound off the lord in the last turn he just couldn't do it. They shook and were laughing and smiling. I even got Aaron to admit to us that I was closer to beating him than Rick, much to my amusement.

Just... try to keep unsubstantiated hersay to a minimum please. If someone got Aaron to come on here and say that he hated playing Rick etc. etc. then maybe we would have something to talk about, but as it stands this is baseless.

What I'm really curious about is to find out which armies do/did well (both in the invitational and in the main tournament). I'm particularly interested to know what armies and flavors of them are in the top 16... similar to how you guys listed out the armies and builds of most of the participants in the Bay Area Open.

I'm not anticipating this information in real-time, but hopefully it surfaces soon after

What's Blackmoor's record, does anyone know?

Last report before the live feed went down was Blackmoor was 3-0 and beating Nids with his Draigo List

Excellent! Another recognizable person from Dakka likely to be in the top 16 for tomorrow

What? He got banned again? He was just posting on here 2 weeks ago! ><

Anywho, who is everyone rooting for to win this year?

Man, Blackmoor has been doing work with that Draigo list! It doesn't look like much on paper, but he plays it well.

I agree with RiTides, I love seeing that data after the tournament. It is really interesting to see what lists perform well. Hopefully Mike is collating that data for us so we can chew on it after the event is over.

@301slow1

Thanks for putting your two cents in as well. It is always better to have both sides of the story.

From the looks of the few pictures out there, the Tau are all TL-Missile Pods and Flamers (alot of them) or Missile Pods and Plasma; with Pathfinders.

I had found more pictures earlier, but as of now, this is the only Tau picture I can find: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66809173@N02/6081822472/in/photostream/lightbox/

If I am not mistaken, if you guys are talking about a Tau Player by the name of Rich, that is most likely Rich Therkorn, he played in the invitational. He is a very good player who also plays BA, well mannered guy, intelligent player. Brought tau, I would expect him to do quite well.

So.........Has Dash been permanently banned? He brings alot of fun to these forums. All the interesting people seem to be banned...Stelek for example....


I got banned one time for making a who would win in a real fight poll...Stelek vs Gwar.

Whatever happened to that guy btw?

No, he hasn't, but he is suspended currently...

Can we get back to talking about the tourney now?

RiTides wrote:No, he hasn't, but he is suspended currently...

Can we get back to talking about the tourney now?

ya... i blame the mods. lol j.k

Ya did anyone get a list of what armies and players were left?

Rick's on Dakka, "discountbarber"

Here is one of his past threads and blog..

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/380581.page

http://discountbarber.com/

Saturday was a blast so far for me. I got utterly spanked and banished to the Xenos room though. I can tell you that the low tables on day one are all xenos for the most part. So far I played dark eldar, a true leafblower iguard, battlewagon orks and lash chaos.All great games, all great opponents. I have talked with a few players who have said there have been some heated moments at the high tables but that happens I suppose when it really matters who wins.

Looking forward to day 2 here in a few minutes. I totally took a bad list with units I didn't have too much experience, but all the games haven't been onesided at all.

Good luck today everyone. Let's hope the xenos room gets AC all day today!


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Saturday was a blast so far for me. I got utterly spanked and banished to the Xenos room though. I can tell you that the low tables on day one are all xenos for the most part. So far I played dark eldar, a true leafblower iguard, battlewagon orks and lash chaos.All great games, all great opponents. I have talked with a few players who have said there have been some heated moments at the high tables but that happens I suppose when it really matters who wins.

Looking forward to day 2 here in a few minutes. I totally took a bad list with units I didn't have too much experience, but all the games haven't been onesided at all.

Good luck today everyone. Let's hope the xenos room gets AC all day today!

Would have been nice to see the games talked about without the commentary about a persons personality. Simple fact is some people live here on the internet while others don't care and therefore you tend to get one side of the story. Proxy story telling still just as bad as someone coming on and telling in 1st person. I am starting to miss the days of the old GW GTs that did not have the internet to devolve the event. Overall sounds like a good event if you just take the games played without the story telling. Though I am getting tired of dice spam armies.

Tyranids were both on table 1&2 yesterday in round 4 and they lost both to grey knights.

Nids vs Waking Force Weapons=ow

Here are the top 16 armies:

5 Grey Knights
4 Space Wolves
2 Imperial Guard
2 Dark Eldar
1 Blood Angel
1Tyranid
1 Ork

The Tyranid player lost in round 5 to Dash of Pepper, and the Ork player to me. Right now it does not look good for the BA player.


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Notables still in it:
Neil from the 11th Co.
Hulksmash
Yermom
Dash of Pepper
Tony kopeck
Dawson from the Imperial Vox Cast



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Yermom down to Neil G.

Thanks for the update, Blackmoor . Good luck today!

Dawson lost to IG


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Hulksmash beat Andrew Gonyo

You guys must have started on-time! It's not even 11:00...

Go Hulksmash!

I wish i was playing right now...Kopach beat Puig or do we not know?
Damn school only let me do the invitational :(

Blackmoor wrote:Dawson lost to IG


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Hulksmash beat Andrew Gonyo

Did Hulksmash end up going with his Wolfguard list?

Go hulk!

Awesome, I have a number of friends in the top 16! Very interested to see who wins.

Me vs. Neil G.
Dash vs. Hulk

Blackmoor wrote:Here are the top 16 armies:

5 Grey Knights
4 Space Wolves
2 Imperial Guard
2 Dark Eldar
1 Blood Angel
1Tyranid
1 Ork

9 out of 16 are Space Wolves and Grey Knights. I think you are going to get that at 2000pts. Lower the game to 1500pts and those armies can't have every bell and whistle and must make hard choices.

Round 6 match-ups for Tier 1 up.

Top 8 are now: 2 GK, 2 DE, 2 SW, 1 BA, 1 IG

12/16 are Imperials. With terrain like at NOVA, DE does better thanks to mobility and limiting firelanes.

Is it just me, or are Blood Angels and Guard not doing that great in tournaments anymore?

DarthDiggler wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:Here are the top 16 armies:

5 Grey Knights
4 Space Wolves
2 Imperial Guard
2 Dark Eldar
1 Blood Angel
1Tyranid
1 Ork

9 out of 16 are Space Wolves and Grey Knights. I think you are going to get that at 2000pts. Lower the game to 1500pts and those armies can't have every bell and whistle and must make hard choices.

I can't exalt this post enough. Tournaments really, really, REALLY need to go to 1500. Better balance, more tactics, more variety, easier to paint, less time needed to play. 1500 is such a great (the best!) point level for the game.

@Walls
I like 1500 too, but I don't think it is "better" per se, just different. Different armies are better at 1500, it isn't more balanced, just a shifted balance, IMO.

However, I agree that 1500 is better for tournament play since it is so much faster. Games will finish on time.

@Backfire
BA never did that well, honestly. They are represented in large numbers but never seem to deliver the goods.

IG still do well, but the numbers have dropped significantly. You just don't see as many of them anymore.