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Personally, I think its a great jetbike, but its not for me. It would be a great resource for conversions, but I think its too similar to the modern SM jetbikes for my army (CSM. i have the same issue with the official GW CSM bikes) so I am undecided on whether or not ill get the Javelin Jetbike. It could be fun to work with, so i may get one to lead my Alpha Legion bikers once I reach that stage of my project.

Random aside, I've been looking at ordering from chapterhouse for a while, but my issue is currently the delivery costs to my country. I'm unable to order from bits sites mostly because many of the ones ive tried to order from have shipping costs to my country that essentially double or even triple the cost of my order, immediately putting it out of my budget. so i am wondering what the shipping costs are like for Chapterhouse?

I think you guys at chapterhouse should keep up the awesome work, even if it isnt all for me. I'd love it if you started offering more pre-heresy style bits or some chaos styled bits, that would get me purchasing regularly.

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah Ill work on that once the festivities are over..

To the poster who posted the other companies web link for a competing product.

Not cool, I hope noone ever goes into a business you own and starts telling your potential customers about the guy selling similiar items down the street..

Unfortunately there are several competing jet bike designs available and this being the internet you're not going to be able to keep that a secret. Your work is good though, no need to get outspokenly annoyed (even if you're seething inside!). Competitors are a fact of doing business, even if people like Games Workshop seem to have forgotten that.

I'm also curious about all the talk I've been seeing about sidecars. Did I miss a photo somewhere?

I like the new website design overall.

Kroothawk wrote:
Minor bug on the website:
If a category has subcategories, it claims to have 0 in that category (e.g. claims to have 0 shoulder pads). Can irritate some people.

Related to the above: would it be possible to display all items in a category/subcategory, rather than having to get down to the bottom of the 'tree' before seeing them? So for example be able to display all the Space Marine shoulder pads on one page, rather than one-page-per-Chapter/Legion (i.e. as well as navigating to the bottom of the 'tree', being able to see everything in a higher-level category).

Also I can't see any TRU-scale stuff on there, is that yet to be added?

Regarding the Pilum - Design is finished, I am getting prices for the master and then it will be off to the molders - eta 4-6 weeks.

Regarding the shipping. I think for the most part our international shipping is 8.50$-12.50. I have to mention though that no tracking is available at that price and we take no responsibility for delays or misplaced packages. Traceked international shipping cost start at around $35 for the smallest packages (most customers would never want to pay that).

REgarding the new site - I still have some streamlining to do concerning some product photos, reviews, and store presentation, I am looking at all of your statements and will do my best to make the site as streamlined as possible. My next step is to take all items like shoulder pads, put them in the master shoulderpad category, and also then break them down to sub-categories.

Hope everyone ate enough food yesterday.

Nick

Chapterhouse wrote:
Regarding the shipping. I think for the most part our international shipping is 8.50$-12.50. I have to mention though that no tracking is available at that price and we take no responsibility for delays or misplaced packages. Traceked international shipping cost start at around $35 for the smallest packages (most customers would never want to pay that).

Thanks for your answer. That should be reasonable, I shall only have to hold out until its a bigger order for me to make. Thanks again!

insaniak wrote:The trick to not being rude is to, you know, not be rude.

Adding a disclaimer saying that you don't mean to be rude doesn't make your comment any less out of line... it just suggests that you're fully aware that you're being rude, but couldn't be bothered taking the time to actually explain your viewpoint.

Explaining what you don't like about it is constructive. Just pointing out that it is horrible is not.

Okay let me explain in more detail then.

With all the crap the poor stormraven(GW kit not the truescale CH kit) I thought that you have to be so rude ,could not believe people were so sensitive just because it is a smaller company, but okay I was a little too hard , The jetbike is not horrid...its just ugly
but now people noted me anyway: P

So why is it ugly ? I tell you
It look like somthing GW did in the early 90s , it has no real details.
the guns (I know you cant copy a bolter) but thy look way to smal and so dose the handles
the exhaust pipes are only a cylinder NO details at all why not do it mor dynamic with holes and stuff (like the ones on the back of a dread thing)
the bakpart is also just a block ( I know marines like blocky stuff ,but here is a difference between blocky and plain borring

I like the front part tho

So hope his is more of constructive criticism then

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah Ill work on that once the festivities are over..

To the poster who posted the other companies web link for a competing product.

Not cool, I hope noone ever goes into a business you own and starts telling your potential customers about the guy selling similiar items down the street..

Well its a free market , we have competition (and Im not the only one to post pics of a difrent companys products in this thread)
If i think some other company makes a better produkt well then I tell people about it
and potential customers who see yours jetbik.. I am almost certain have sean the others too, so its not like we nead to hide them

See it as a opportunity to become better, then I will post your stuff on the internet too others

So hope this clear things up
(sorry for the spelling dont have a spell chek on this computer)

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah Ill work on that once the festivities are over..

To the poster who posted the other companies web link for a competing product.

Not cool, I hope noone ever goes into a business you own and starts telling your potential customers about the guy selling similar items down the street..

Sooooo... how do you feel about people discussing your products in a GW store? Good? Bad? Free speech?

Next time try simply saying 'I personally don't care for it, to me it is too lacking in detail'. There is a difference between 'sugar coating' and making the slightest effort to state your opinion without being outright rude. It doesn't even look like it fits within the 40k universe. It's $14 AND not even complete because you still have to find an upper body to use? This makes it more expensive than the GW biker model!

By the way, the photos in the first post are broken.

Pics are broken :(

NELS1031 wrote:

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah Ill work on that once the festivities are over..

To the poster who posted the other companies web link for a competing product.

Not cool, I hope noone ever goes into a business you own and starts telling your potential customers about the guy selling similiar items down the street..

At the risk of sounding trollish...


Pretty sure I've seen you do the same.

Nick would never do that.

Claimh_Solais wrote:

insaniak wrote:The trick to not being rude is to, you know, not be rude.

Adding a disclaimer saying that you don't mean to be rude doesn't make your comment any less out of line... it just suggests that you're fully aware that you're being rude, but couldn't be bothered taking the time to actually explain your viewpoint.

Explaining what you don't like about it is constructive. Just pointing out that it is horrible is not.

Okay let me explain in more detail then.

With all the crap the poor stormraven(GW kit not the truescale CH kit) I thought that you have to be so rude ,could not believe people were so sensitive just because it is a smaller company, but okay I was a little too hard , The jetbike is not horrid...its just ugly
but now people noted me anyway: P

So why is it ugly ? I tell you
It look like somthing GW did in the early 90s , it has no real details.
the guns (I know you cant copy a bolter) but thy look way to smal and so dose the handles
the exhaust pipes are only a cylinder NO details at all why not do it mor dynamic with holes and stuff (like the ones on the back of a dread thing)
the bakpart is also just a block ( I know marines like blocky stuff ,but here is a difference between blocky and plain borring

I like the front part tho

I actually feel that this bike is just as detailed as the other 2 options I have seen out there already. The bit that makes this one better for me is just what you do not like about it. For a jet powered anti gravity vehicle, I do not want to see ork like exhaust like those shown in the Kromlech entry and the one for which you linked. Yes the holes make for more detail, but look to steampunk or lowtech for a 40K flyer. Personally I don't want to see exhaust pipes at all on a jetbike. I want a big engine hole in the back with vectoring surfaces that say "I make the wind in a hurricane look slow!". You don't see exhaust pipes on the landspeeder so why must they be on the bike with the same power source. So CH bike has my vote on this item.

The lack of details issue. Again I am going with CH because while the detail level is similar to the Kromlech entry and far less than your linked bike, I find the "lines" of the CH bike better. It should be rather plain from the a fore mentioned "realism" perspective. The more exterior details you have the more drag this will create. I find that the CH entry is a nice balance of simple detail and flat surfaces. And the cog wheels on your linked bike just look silly and the seat is to small looking. The foot rests look good though. Very "chopper" motorcycle inspired. So again, CH has my vote on this item as well.

The gun issue. Yes the CH guns are small. Yes they do look out of sorts from what we are used to. The Kromlech guns look more "bolter" like. Your linked bikes guns look like meltaguns though. While detailed nicely they do not look like a pair of bolter inspired weapons at all. I believe this would cause confusion to other players. So Kromlech gets my vote for the guns.

And finally the fronts. I do not like the front of the Kromlech bike. It looks to stubby I guess. It is not a bad design at all and is very well done, just not what I expected. The CH bike is similar, but is more angled and appears more streamlined to me. Your linked bike has a beautiful front. Looks like the front of a GW battlecruiser from the Battlefleet Gothic game. The little vents towards the bottom are a nice added touch. However, the details are huge. The raised lines are way to high. Would have looked better if they had made them more subtle. This hits the realism crowd hard due to the drag those lines would create. I see no air intake at all on your bike while the intakes on the other two is the entire front. This says power to me. An engine needing this kind of intake must pour out the thrust power. And finally, as nice as it looks, the front on your bike is more imperial fleet, not Space Marine. The details are just wrong for the setting in my opinion. So I vote CH bike again.

As for the price issue and the need for other pieces to finish this bike...really!?! All 3 bikes are roughly similar in price and need further parts to finish them (I was wrong. The Kromlech bike is much more expensive and the linked gothic steampunk bike isn't released yet, so the value of the CH bike is much better than its competitors counterparts). To actually list this as a complaint is just sad. We are talking about conversion kits here after all. By their very nature they need other stuff to finish them. Compare the price of the GW bike all you want. Its just a bike. You want a jetbike instead then then you pony up the dough and make your friends jealous and your enemies quake with your jetpowered toys. If you want to have a jetbike that includes all the bits then wait for FW to come out with one and then be ready to pay more than double what you are getting here with any of these entries. You can start saving now so you wont have to use an entire Social Security retirement check for it if it actually happens at all. Good luck with that one.

Everyones taste is different and no single item is going to make everyone happy. If money has to be spent then someone is gonna whine about the expense. This is life. I like the CH bike best. I feel the price is reasonable and competitive. Some of you hate the bike and some of you hate the price. Then go elsewhere and buy something that you like and is cheaper. To sit here and whine about it is just wasting your time. We only have so much after all and then it is gone.

Edited to add price correction in red.

I prefer the CH one to the cog one. The cog one is too front heavy and has a ridiculous brazier looking thing at the back. I can suspend disbelief at dreads having odd exhausts, but not jetbikes which are supposed to represent the height of technological achievement from the Dark Ages of Technology.
Those perforated tubes are only meant to protect surfaces from being damaged by the heat from the exhausts in situations where the exhausts are close to something such as the cab of a truck; you don't see them otherwise. Dreads don't actually need them either and jetbikes look stupid with them.
I also have to wonder at the comment about the bike not coming with a full rider. The whole point of this set is to blend it in with existing marine armies, so buyers of this bike are going to be providing their own riders according to their own preferences.

Personally, I like the idea of the front of the Kromlech bike added to the body of the CH one. What a lot of people are missing with the Kromlech one is a "coincidental" resemblance to GW's Imperial vessels for BFG:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490024a&prodId=prod1101827
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490024a&prodId=prod1101835

However, one could mek the same argument for CH (As well as the obvious Eagle influences):

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490024a&prodId=prod1101829
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490024a&prodId=prod1101843

Both bikes look pretty good and the price is absolutely right, especially since you won't need to find biker marine parts to complete them.

While this stuff is all fine and dandy, when is that awesome male Howling Banshee gonna happen?

@Chapterhouse

I noticed you said that this Jet Bike could be used as a scout option as well, but I don't think it comes with non-metal covered legs.

If I were to use another companies cloth covered legs for their scout bike riders, the legs would be pointing forward instead of down. Is the scout piece of your model compatible with that pose?

I did order the model to see if I can make it work, but other people might have the same question.

Are the legs not separate?

Yes, but GW bikers ride in a different pose than the jetbike riders. So I want to make sure that you can use a GW scout biker body on this kit, especially since it is advertised as beig usable as a scout jetbike as well.

Flamekebab wrote:

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah Ill work on that once the festivities are over..

To the poster who posted the other companies web link for a competing product.

Not cool, I hope noone ever goes into a business you own and starts telling your potential customers about the guy selling similiar items down the street..

Unfortunately there are several competing jet bike designs available and this being the internet you're not going to be able to keep that a secret. Your work is good though, no need to get outspokenly annoyed (even if you're seething inside!). Competitors are a fact of doing business, even if people like Games Workshop seem to have forgotten that.

I'm also curious about all the talk I've been seeing about sidecars. Did I miss a photo somewhere?

I actually agree with Chapterhouse on this bit. It seemed a bit churlish and impolite on the linker's part.

I like the cog front and the CH back. Too bad someone can't make a bike like that. :(

Newly painted example of our Javelin Jetbike done by Jose Veiga. Production of the Pilum Jetbike kit will begin in a couple of weeks, the master is being processed now.





I have also had the chance to add a 4-wheel kit to the site - $6.00



Currently we just put into production 3 new vehicle accessory resin kits, specifically designed with the Razorback, Land Raider and Storm Raven in mind.

The first 2 kits are magnetic Turrets that will allow players to swap out weapons on the Razor Back and Storm Raven kit without having to use a turret for each setup. Here you can see the WIP pics. This kit is already being produced and will be on the site in a couple of weeks.


The Storm Raven specific loadout will be $13.50 and the Razorback loadout will be $15.00. Each kit will come with all the weapon options available for each vehicles turret.

Next up is a kit we called the Iconoclast conversion kit for the Land Raider - we modeled it after the WWI tanks that were the progenitors to all the tanks we see now. Target price will be in the lower $20 range.



I also have some alternative battlesuit heads that will fit on Tau Crisis suits. These will be molded up in a couple of weeks.


Last is a work in progress of a "Death Stalker". This is a mechanized walker that I will be using in my personal Necron army for a while. As soon as the design is finalized Ill show the concept art for it .

I hope everyone had a great new year and Christmas and I am looking forward to the New Year!

Nick - Chapterhouse Studios LLC

Love the Landraider conversion kit. Very similar to the FW kit, but much cheaper.


Which I cant seem to locate on their site...maybe it isnt available. Well in that case double good on CH...I liked that kit.

I love the LR conversion, and I don't even like space marines. Keep on making more kits.

I was JUST about to order some Razorback weapons... I'm glad I caught this thread before I did :-) definitely going to pick these up.

Looks great. Love the space marine legs. Saves me the trouble of buying a biker kit just to use the jetbikes

Nice work all around there.

I would love to see those not-razorback turrets on a rhino like vehicle! lol

If I may suggest, there may be a larger market for you selling the parts seperately, mounting plates, guns etc. There is a big market for gun parts for all kinds of vehicles etc... Someone may not need all the options, but may well need 20 autocannon looking options for things that don't have parts already from GW... The Crassus comes to mind, no matter what, you have no option but to source bits of some kind if you want autocannons for it.

Oh no, Tau heads, guess I will have to buy more battlesuits to put them on.

Any idea if you might do some sci-fi heads that would fit on anime inspired alien infantry?

Just when I thought I could safely peg my money for something else, stuff like this gets placed in the pipeline. I'll be grabbing a couple of those razorback kits me things, and definitely the LR kit... just means I need another land raider. 5 isn't too many is it?

Also, with the bikes, has anyone done a design that has the rider sitting in a fashion similar to how a lot of the sportier bikes are today?

That classic Land Raider might be something for my Death Guard army.

Can't wait for the death stalker, should be a big hit since its such good tank and everyone want one, same as the wraith.