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 madman12367 wrote:
I would love to see 'MAKE YOUR OWN MAP' be in there, there are some really old games that has that and it's a nice little bit to add on.

But there is one, Worldbuilder was in one of the DOW2 updates.

 ace101 wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
Yeah, the Blood Ravens were engineered by Relic so they wouldn't have to step on any GW toes in concerns to fluff.

The Blood Ravens were still cool, even though they had captains with hair-gel stronger than baneblades, or had ungodly horrible voices.

I like the Blood Ravens a lot. If I had a reason to paint up an army of them, I'd be on it pretty quickly. I do enjoy the camp factor with a lot of their characters though, even if it's not strictly intentional.

-Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.

-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

-further customization options:
-a way to upload my own symbol in game and use it for my army.
-more freedom with painting, instead of giving me certain areas to paint - freedom to use mouse to select any aread I want and paint it.

-more skirmish/multiplayer options:
-modes for small games and large games ( battle and Apocalypse )
-Titans in Apocalypse with large number of troops/vehicles.

-Wargear options for commanders and army in general.

-MOST IMPORTANT: freedom to choose subrace in race ( For example I choose Imperium of Man and select Imperial Guard. The computer gives me options for choose Cadians, Krieg or Catachans. Depending on who I choose I get that army + their unique units/abilities. Same for everyone else. )

This is a long shot but basically what I would want to see in new and improved DoW.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
-Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.

-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

-further customization options:
-a way to upload my own symbol in game and use it for my army.
-more freedom with painting, instead of giving me certain areas to paint - freedom to use mouse to select any aread I want and paint it.

-more skirmish/multiplayer options:
-modes for small games and large games ( battle and Apocalypse )
-Titans in Apocalypse with large number of troops/vehicles.

-Wargear options for commanders and army in general.

-MOST IMPORTANT: freedom to choose subrace in race ( For example I choose Imperium of Man and select Imperial Guard. The computer gives me options for choose Cadians, Krieg or Catachans. Depending on who I choose I get that army + their unique units/abilities. Same for everyone else. )

This is a long shot but basically what I would want to see in new and improved DoW.

When would you like to see this game and for how much money?

There is a reason why DoW and many games have only a couple races at the start and add more as they release expansions. Money, time, and balance.

Its always annoys me when someone says they want the game to contain everything under the sun. Please be a bit more reasonable in your expectations (this post wasnt even that bad, Ive seen worse, like someone who wanted DoW 3 to INCLUDE FPS elemets like from battlefield AND multiplayer campaigns and 7- races

Base building, all races (think soulstorm), apocalypse, steel legion or somthing besides cadians. ALL THE KAOS!!!
More Chornholio the cultist, und have some artillery.
Titans would be nice :p


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 Galdos wrote:

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
-Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.

-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

-further customization options:
-a way to upload my own symbol in game and use it for my army.
-more freedom with painting, instead of giving me certain areas to paint - freedom to use mouse to select any aread I want and paint it.

-more skirmish/multiplayer options:
-modes for small games and large games ( battle and Apocalypse )
-Titans in Apocalypse with large number of troops/vehicles.

-Wargear options for commanders and army in general.

-MOST IMPORTANT: freedom to choose subrace in race ( For example I choose Imperium of Man and select Imperial Guard. The computer gives me options for choose Cadians, Krieg or Catachans. Depending on who I choose I get that army + their unique units/abilities. Same for everyone else. )

This is a long shot but basically what I would want to see in new and improved DoW.

When would you like to see this game and for how much money?

There is a reason why DoW and many games have only a couple races at the start and add more as they release expansions. Money, time, and balance.

Its always annoys me when someone says they want the game to contain everything under the sun. Please be a bit more reasonable in your expectations (this post wasnt even that bad, Ive seen worse, like someone who wanted DoW 3 to INCLUDE FPS elemets like from battlefield AND multiplayer campaigns and 7- races

Yeah most of us want MOAR but really I think that it would be best to use the old base building along with that nice gear to put to all of your units. I felt like DoW2 lacked alot of units on the field at once.

People need to understand that games don't have unlimited budgets or development cycles, because there's some pretty unreasonable ideas going around on this page.

Better names.
"Gabriel Angelos"? Really?

 Brother SRM wrote:
People need to understand that games don't have unlimited budgets or development cycles, because there's some pretty unreasonable ideas going around on this page.

You mean it's not possible to have a game that's both a 40k version of COD, scaling up to DOW1 scale, then scaling up again to total war, then scaling up again to universe level? Surely not.


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 Macok wrote:
Better names.
"Gabriel Angelos"? Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel#New_Testament

 Testify wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel#New_Testament

Oh, that makes it a very, very, very good name... or does it?

Depends. The Angel Gabriel is a pretty big part of the nativity. Being Polish I'm surprised you've not heard of him (I assume you are Polish).

 Macok wrote:
Better names.
"Gabriel Angelos"? Really?

Problem? It fits very well: Gabriel Angelos, the Emperor's Angel of Death.

I want to see Dawn of War 3 before I start to recite what I want from it

I guess my internet-fu was a weak and I failed to deliver the message.
I do know who Gabriel is and that is exactly why I dislike the name.

It's along the lines of Canis Wolfborn walking around in Wolfsocks and having Wolfhaircut. So the theme is.. cats?
I guess next Eldar Farseer will be Nostradamus Futurus son of Clairvoyancion the Farseeing from the Craftworld Divinium. Because, you know, seeing into future *wink* *wink*

That would only make sence if Gabriel went to Mary and told her she was pregnant with the saviour of mankind.

Rather than walking around stomping Chaos.

What? Pregnancies don't happen in 40k. What are you talking about?

 Macok wrote:

I do know who Gabriel is and that is exactly why I dislike the name.

Just what is your problem with Angelos? Apart from Davian COOL, he's the most awesome character in DoW.

Tadashi wrote:Just what is your problem with Angelos? Apart from Davian COOL, he's the most awesome character in DoW.

I think he was not referring to the character per se, but the name. I mean ... you have the Space Marines, they are the Angels of Death, and here we have a (supposed) successor of the Blood Angels, led by a guy by the name of Gabriel Angelos. And Gabriel is an angel in real world mythology. And for some people, "bad" names can sully the character they are attached to, even if everything else would have been okay. A cliché name can work like some sort of cliché multiplier that pushes everything else over the edge, I guess.

At least that's what I'm getting from Macok's Wolfwolfwolf and Nostradamus-Farseer comparison.

/shrug

Personally, I still like the name, but even for me it is borderline OTT. It's still in my comfort zone, but only just so (primarily because I think "Gabriel" is a cool name in general).

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:- Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.
-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

Ugh, please no. Every playable race should have its own campaign. Are fans of other armies just SOL because they buy a product just for multiplayer?
I think the expansion thingie from DoW1 worked out quite well for introducing additional races. Keep it that way.

 Lynata wrote:

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:- Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.
-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

Ugh, please no. Every playable race should have its own campaign. Are fans of other armies just SOL because they buy a product just for multiplayer?
I think the expansion thingie from DoW1 worked out quite well for introducing additional races. Keep it that way.

Yes please. I want Angelos to lead the Blood Ravens on a quest to find their true origins, and, depending on the player's actions, either ends with the Chapter being accepted or rejected by the Imperium.

 Tadashi wrote:

 Lynata wrote:

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:- Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.
-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

Ugh, please no. Every playable race should have its own campaign. Are fans of other armies just SOL because they buy a product just for multiplayer?
I think the expansion thingie from DoW1 worked out quite well for introducing additional races. Keep it that way.

Yes please. I want Angelos to lead the Blood Ravens on a quest to find their true origins, and, depending on the player's actions, either ends with the Chapter being accepted or rejected by the Imperium.

Pretty boring for non-SM players. It would essentially be Space Marine - the RTS.

I actually like marines in general but blood ravens are meh. Space Marines are supposed to be the armoured demi-gods who crush Chaos beneath their feet. Why is their computer game poster boy borderline heretic?

 Testify wrote:

 Tadashi wrote:

 Lynata wrote:

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:- Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.
-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

Ugh, please no. Every playable race should have its own campaign. Are fans of other armies just SOL because they buy a product just for multiplayer?
I think the expansion thingie from DoW1 worked out quite well for introducing additional races. Keep it that way.

Yes please. I want Angelos to lead the Blood Ravens on a quest to find their true origins, and, depending on the player's actions, either ends with the Chapter being accepted or rejected by the Imperium.

Pretty boring for non-SM players. It would essentially be Space Marine - the RTS.

I actually like marines in general but blood ravens are meh. Space Marines are supposed to be the armoured demi-gods who crush Chaos beneath their feet. Why is their computer game poster boy borderline heretic?

Because tragic characters who walk the edge of damnation/heroism are more interesting than Mary Sues. I want something like Chaos Rising/Mass Effect - if the player chooses certain missions, favors certain individuals/artifacts/decisions, then either the Imperium just hides the truth and accepts the Blood Ravens as they are, or they are declared excommunicate traitoris. And once again depending on those same factors, if they are declared traitors, the Blood Ravens either go willingly into the Warp/Eye of Terror, or go out ala Thousand Sons - they fight to protect themselves only to go into the Warp in the end regardless.

I fail to see how anyone who isn't morally ambiguous is a "mary sue".

 Testify wrote:
I fail to see how anyone who isn't morally ambiguous is a "mary sue".

...

Your previous post indicated (at least to me) a classic protagonist/s - heroic individuals who's actions and motivations are predictably what you would expect from Astartes.

I have only ever heard the term "mary sue" on this forum, but it was my understanding that it was

a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as a wish-fulfillment fantasy for the author or reader.

That's not a "typical" space marine.

 Testify wrote:
I have only ever heard the term "mary sue" on this forum, but it was my understanding that it was

a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as a wish-fulfillment fantasy for the author or reader.

That's not a "typical" space marine.

No...but that's not what Blood Ravens are. And I would like to see them go on a soul-searching quest for their origins, during which their actions will also decide their ultimate fate. The Imperium and the Emperor forever, or the serpentine comet and the Crimson King triumphant.

They're portrayed as being kind of on the edge to make them somewhat interesting and different from other chapters. It also lets things like the morality system get implemented and have an effect on the story. I like it. The Dawn of War series belongs to the Blood Ravens, and whether or not we get campaigns for everyone or just Space Marines, I hope they remain the Marine chapter for the campaign. I actually like their story.

And Gabriel Angelos? More like Gabriel Angelowns.

 Tadashi wrote:

 Lynata wrote:

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:- Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.
-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

Ugh, please no. Every playable race should have its own campaign. Are fans of other armies just SOL because they buy a product just for multiplayer?
I think the expansion thingie from DoW1 worked out quite well for introducing additional races. Keep it that way.

Yes please. I want Angelos to lead the Blood Ravens on a quest to find their true origins, and, depending on the player's actions, either ends with the Chapter being accepted or rejected by the Imperium.

Oh god that would actually be hillarious. Its one thing for a single commander to go traitor but the entire chapter being told feth off by the Imperium because how you played would be kind of cool.


However I would like to see at least a few campaigns. An Imperium/Chaos/Ork and maybe one more faction doesnt seem unreasonable. Expansions would include 2 more campaigns of different races?

 Galdos wrote:

 Tadashi wrote:

 Lynata wrote:

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:- Campaign with Blood Ravens, Angelos as Chapter Master.
-All races for multiplayer ( and I mean all races ).

Ugh, please no. Every playable race should have its own campaign. Are fans of other armies just SOL because they buy a product just for multiplayer?
I think the expansion thingie from DoW1 worked out quite well for introducing additional races. Keep it that way.

Yes please. I want Angelos to lead the Blood Ravens on a quest to find their true origins, and, depending on the player's actions, either ends with the Chapter being accepted or rejected by the Imperium.

Oh god that would actually be hillarious. Its one thing for a single commander to go traitor but the entire chapter being told feth off by the Imperium because how you played would be kind of cool.


However I would like to see at least a few campaigns. An Imperium/Chaos/Ork and maybe one more faction doesnt seem unreasonable. Expansions would include 2 more campaigns of different races?

Nothing wrong with giving other races their own unique campaigns. While I want the Blood Ravens go soul-searching, I want to see a young, Tau Commander get sent into the Farsight Enclaves. He has two objectives:

1) Defeat Farsight and reunite his forces with the empire.
2) Find out why he rebelled in the first place.

Once again, your decisions will have an impact on the ending - either you remain loyal to the empire, or end up joining Farsight in the end.

Oh god that would be awsome.

Though GW wouldnt let you do that.

I would buy that game if it was Tau only just to answer that. (Whatever helps farsight, hurts the Tau, which makes the Imperium in me happy)

 Galdos wrote:
Oh god that would be awsome.

Though GW wouldnt let you do that.

I would buy that game if it was Tau only just to answer that. (Whatever helps farsight, hurts the Tau, which makes the Imperium in me happy)

Why wouldn't they? The canon ending would simply have the young and anonymous Tau Commander joining Farsight (which would be the ending I would aim for if this game became reality).

EDIT: WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET EA MAKE THE GAME!

 Tadashi wrote:

 Galdos wrote:
Oh god that would be awsome.

Though GW wouldnt let you do that.

I would buy that game if it was Tau only just to answer that. (Whatever helps farsight, hurts the Tau, which makes the Imperium in me happy)

Why wouldn't they? The canon ending would simply have the young and anonymous Tau Commander joining Farsight (which would be the ending I would aim for if this game became reality).

EDIT: WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET EA MAKE THE GAME!

I meant the finding the reason why he is doing it statement