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From facebook:

likely to run for two weeks.

in regards to stretch goals: "We've got a few items dependent on funding levels. I'll explain more later".

There are also a limited dragon stock in the hub, most likely be first come fist serve in the pledge manager.

If this is successful they plan on new Conan annually and the first one would contain a new Dragon resculpt.

   
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I wish they would move away from stretch goals...unless it is to lower shipping costs.

Really hoping for this one to succeed. And for more Conan in the future.

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People demanded them in the BtM kickstarter and people are wired to expect them as they're still a really common request on various facebook pages for this KSer. Fred may hate them but they're too ingrained in KSer's culture to completely get away from.

From Matt's statement it seams like they're actually old school SG meaning they cannot afford to make them unless X amount is made instead of modern just already baked in SG as I suspect they're doing this to get the funding level low instead of 700k again.
   
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 Monkeysloth wrote:


There are also a limited dragon stock in the hub, most likely be first come fist serve in the pledge manager.

If this is successful they plan on new Conan annually and the first one would contain a new Dragon resculpt.



Bah, it's easy enough to proxy a suitable dragon. I need Black Ones! lol

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They are cool models but I don't think a single official scenario actually uses them.
   
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 Monkeysloth wrote:
They are cool models but I don't think a single official scenario actually uses them.

I desperately want them in part because it is so hard to find tall and lanky miniatures. It is really hard to find lanky anything in miniature. Everyone is a beefcastle at any height.

Also, the Conan story they come from is great fun, and I've wanted to game it for a while.
   
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Well you might get your chance. While nothing is confirmed it there are hints that Streach Goals would be extra Scenarios (not unexpected) and potentially reprints of the high demand stuff.

Q: Strechgoals or still allergic to basic user fun ?

A: we shall see. Might have a few things up our sleeves that are feasible for us, and will be welcomed by many backers.



Q: Please, make the Dragon and the Winged Ape available again!

Non-monolith Answer: winged ape is a yes for people who back the KS, but no dragon in this one.

Monolith reply to answer above: that's not true. We've got a few items dependent on funding levels. I'll explain more later.


Q: How many Co-Op/Solo scenarios are included?

A: at this point at least seven. That could increase depending on how we do.


   
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Tempted buteven with a new KS my "uh oh these guys are running out of money" sense is tingling.

Previously they stated they needed the last KS to do well.

   
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I'm... of two minds, really

I love both Conan and Batman, but honestly, how much of it do I really need? I feel like FOMO is making me want this much more than any actual want or need.
   
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 TwilightSparkles wrote:
Tempted buteven with a new KS my "uh oh these guys are running out of money" sense is tingling.

Previously they stated they needed the last KS to do well.



Monolith has money. Fred, that owns it, doesn't as he took out a loan for BtM as he didn't want it to sink Monolith if it failed. He did say at one point he'd shut down Monolith if it did fail but that wouldn't be because of money. If he hadn't taken the loan against his house and BtM failed, like it did, then Monolith wouldn't be able to deliver Batman as he would have spent that money to finance BtM which he didn't want to do. Batman Season 2 was the only game monolith made a decent profit for them and his other 2 co-owners wanted to cash out and leave which left him with less money he was expecting and a bit depressed (thus the close it all down stuff). So why, yes, Fred needs this Conan KSer to do well for his loan he's shown he's pretty responsible with the money he raises from a KSer campaign and won't dip into the piggy bank to pay for other projects if it could endanger another one. Which is good as he can be a bit dramatic on the forums and social media.


More on Stretch goals from Facebook


I believe there are a few MB monsters that would blend excellently into the Hyborian Age. Maybe some already have the miniatures becuase they have MB, but they wouldnt have Conan tiles. My question is would a few big MB monsters as stretch goals--ones that cost backers nothing, ones that are feasible for us to provide--be mostly welcomed by the community or be shouted away by those who may already have them? The truth is, it may be better for us to offer nothing, than to offer something awesome like this. It seems absolutely nuts that I have to debate this, but such was the displeasure expressed by some backers during BtM. I almost want to do a survey that says would you rather Something or nothing?



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 Albertorius wrote:
I'm... of two minds, really

I love both Conan and Batman, but honestly, how much of it do I really need? I feel like FOMO is making me want this much more than any actual want or need.


The conan minis are pretty much my main go to stuff for a lot of RPGs, same with Mythic Battles. So I get a pretty good amount of use out of my stuff and even have a decent chunk of Conan painted.

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THe've also started their shift in approach to the KSer with this. They plan on doing more promos that will add new tiles to the box in the run up. One person seams annoyed others are happy they acting like a real KSer.

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I'm not worried about their running out of money. If they needed money they could raise it by reprinting their various rare and popular stuff
The campaign should do fine if we can keep the screeching horde of "i aLrEaDy hAvE ThAt mInI YoU ArE GiViNg mE FoR FrEe! StOp tAkInG A DuMp oN PeOpLe wHo bAcKeD YoUr cAmPaIgN fIvE YeArS AgO!!" people from sinking it.
   
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Monolith added a poll about SG being reprints from Mythic Battles. About a third are for no streach goals and the comments in several groups are getting pretty hostile towards Matt so I expect there to be none as he's stated he's taken aback by the negativity towards free stuff.

One reply from matt about SG should be new stuff only:


All the new stuff has been added to the Conqueror Box. It's completely new. We refuse to remove items that were meant to go in there to create the illusion of stretch goals.

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That's a shame, I fear without stretch goals I doubt it will fund, and if not I bet monolith closes it's doors

 
   
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At the very least Conan is done as a property for them, that has been more or less stated but not in those words.
   
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I think this will fund. It won't please everyone (what KS does?) but it should please enough people.
   
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So Matt is going to purpose, as it's stayed at a consistant 30% opposed to existing minis as SG, that the tiles and a scenario for the minis are unlocked as SG and in the PM there will be a 0$ add on for the minis if you want them.

Won't make everyone happy as there's a decent chunk of those 30% people that say the SG have to be 100% new or Monolith is screwing their loyal backers but I there's a lot of agreement that it's the best approach.
   
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I don't really understand this angst about new but duplicate figures myself it just allows you to play games where you have even more of the same opponents....

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It comes down to people being conditioned that SGs are new things they've never seen. To do that proper Monolith would have to do stuff like say for $100 you're getting 1 map and 30 figures and then "unlock" what they were originally planning on offering for the price which is 2 maps and 55 figures. People on the old KSer and in Facebook comments really think Monolith is pocketing the money after funding and just giving them cheap reprints. Monolith/Matt has tried to explain that they don't want to go the above route with fake SGs (which people still aren't grasping) so they're offering real SGs that can't be made unless funding is hit but all they can afford to do is reprints that have their own molds as I don't think Monolith doesn't expects this to do a million+. Matt has said they have to be very cautious in their approach financially so they what a success but doesn't have to be a home run.

So people are complaining as they see it as Monolith ripping them off by denying them new things.

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One week from launch and we are getting the much requested Zenobia, who freed Conan in the only published novel (but one of the last chronologically) that he marries.

Also there's a preview of the KSer page coming this week.

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Nice, good to see the mother of Conn enter into the fray. Also, solid interpretation of the dagger she gave to Conan when she freed him.

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/806316071/1144014322?ref=eh8nvf&token=56805fe8&fbclid=IwAR07WVUx8uCMMyziiQ33nuNNyIuIhtWkj3_z9JpdqZLqfUQbOMsg4SCIRxo

the preview is up, all subject to change so if theres anything you want/don't want tell them as I suspect they will listen this time

 
   
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Well they finally put up the new Kickstarter and it’s the best Kickstarter value I’ve seen in any Kickstarter. That king pledge plus stretch goals and new expansion plus stretch goals basically gives you 250+ minatures for 125$. That’s insane.... it’s very well done except those masssive bundles will sell out.

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Well they're planning a reprint KSer next if this goes well, which we're all assuming will since the funding goal is so low, so people will get a chance later this year/next year for the kings pledge stuff.

It is an amazing deal and I use a lot of the minis from this game for RPGs. That and mythic battles gave me more stuff I use then Bones does.

One thing to note in the 19 euro add on the game board is half sized compared to the traditional ones. Looks like it's intended to be used by placing it next to the ship map in the core box.

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Dang, whoever manages to snag those King bundles will be getting the best KS deal in years.

I left a comment telling them that they should auto include free miniatures and make the screechers deselect them in the pledge manager rather than vice versa. I recommend you all echo that sentiment in the feedback comments if you agree .
   
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gungo wrote:
Well they finally put up the new Kickstarter and it’s the best Kickstarter value I’ve seen in any Kickstarter. That king pledge plus stretch goals and new expansion plus stretch goals basically gives you 250+ minatures for 125$. That’s insane.... it’s very well done except those masssive bundles will sell out.


This one?




169 euros is aprox 185$ plus 50$ of shipping is about 235$. Maybe still a good price, but not the 250 miniatures for 125$ I think....
   
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I think just the one without the Kings Content as that's 115 euro.

I was also corrected on the Pirate board. It's two smaller double sided maps that are the exterior and interior of two different ships.


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 Gallahad wrote:


I left a comment telling them that they should auto include free miniatures and make the screechers deselect them in the pledge manager rather than vice versa. I recommend you all echo that sentiment in the feedback comments if you agree .


This was discussed on Facebook last week. The issue is the pledge managers don't allow for that. They could add it as a feature but Monolith would probably have to pay for that development. It sucks and most people, including Matt, agree with you but it's just the functionality limitation they have. There was the idea of having a "remove this figure" option for $0 but it was decided that might be too confusing and people might accidentally take them and not get a mini they want (I agree with this assessment).

There's still a lot of people complaining about the MPB figures, and it's not just the same group, so it's dumb and people are dumb but there we are.

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Aulë wrote:
gungo wrote:
Well they finally put up the new Kickstarter and it’s the best Kickstarter value I’ve seen in any Kickstarter. That king pledge plus stretch goals and new expansion plus stretch goals basically gives you 250+ minatures for 125$. That’s insane.... it’s very well done except those masssive bundles will sell out.


This one?




169 euros is aprox 185$ plus 50$ of shipping is about 235$. Maybe still a good price, but not the 250 miniatures for 125$ I think....
Ok we will see what’s it cost in eagles. But it’s still a great deal at less then a dollar a mini... there was 185+ minis in the king pledge and I beleive 76 minis in the new box.

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55 minis in the new box
   
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I'm kind of undecided. I have the base game and stretch goals from the previous kickstarter. It looks great, but I've never actually played it. It's too complicated I think to try to get a casual board gamer to give it a shot, and you need several people to play. So my main interest is the solo/co-op mode. But to pay another about $120 for just a 7 game campaign seems pretty steep. If there were more campaigns, even just released later as PDFs or something, It might seem more enticing.
   
 
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