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Lmao! Joe you get an exalt.

lol...nice.

I am surprised we got such a gem so early and then...silence.

 Symbio Joe wrote:

Well played, Symbio Joe... Well played

Only it is relevant for a possible Tyranid December release, if a new Hobbit starter box is happening or not.
That said, no new tyranid rumours since the pic.

I'm wondering if Fritz (who first released that pic) got in some trouble from GW.

It could also just be the calm before a storm of stuff hits the web.

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

 Symbio Joe wrote:

There's some other mini pics on page 17 or 29 or something, spoiler tagged underneath the 50 paragraph rant about LotR, pay attention.

Is that supposed to be humor or did I really miss a picture?
Sounds like a joke attempt,but hey I'm still hoping for that warrior pic ...

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:
Is that supposed to be humor or did I really miss a picture?
Sounds like a joke attempt,but hey I'm still hoping for that warrior pic ...

At this point, I believe the "Warriors" people are talking about was a miscommunication. It was Hive Guard all along.

Yet people are still talking on about how Warriors are being redone Godzilla-size on 60mm bases or something.

Puscifer wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

It would be believable if he said WHERE he heard it.Seriously if you can just do that then I could be a rumour spreader.They will make a new azog.I will not divulge my sources.DONE.

Just thought I would point out that Fritz40K has posted this in a Tyranid-Space Marine Apocalypse thread recently, I don't know how to use the quote system properly so I'll just link to where the post is and have a "quote" here - let me know if that is ok! http://thewarmaster.com/index.php?topic=1724.msg18176#msg18176]Link here. Evidently I don't know how to use the link system either, lol!

"Tyranids + Marines Players: Heads Up.

The EXACT details of this event are still shaping up, and much depends on when we can get a copy <leak…cough…cough…> and Saturday in December to play."

"Points don’t matter, epicness does as we kick off the new Tyranid codex."

Fritz posted this on the 15th of November, and paired up with Kroothawk's post, I think we can reasonably start to assume Tyranids will be in December! I'm so excited! Of course though, I will wait for more confirmations

Da krimson barun wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

It would be believable if he said WHERE he heard it.Seriously if you can just do that then I could be a rumour spreader.They will make a new azog.I will not divulge my sources.DONE.

Ok. So if Kroothawk says "I can't name my source, they have to remain anonymous" like EVERY rumour we see, what do you then say? Are you seriously having a go at someone for not willing to name their source? If someone from GW/wherever gives you some valuable new information, you don't compromise their position by leaking who they are.....
And besides, Kroothawk's reputation speaks for itself. He has no reason at all to lie.

I'll add this to my previous request. I hope they speed up tyranid movement on the new dex. Foot slogging an assault based army in a shooty edition with no transports, only spore pods can really reduce the armys ability to do a whole lot on large board games. I don't want a transport MC, just speed up the rest of the units to help me get into combat sooner.

 Rotary wrote:
I'll add this to my previous request. I hope they speed up tyranid movement on the new dex. Foot slogging an assault based army in a shooty edition with no transports, only spore pods can really reduce the armys ability to do a whole lot on large board games. I don't want a transport MC, just speed up the rest of the units to help me get into combat sooner.

I look at it like this; it has been about half a year since Eldar dropped, and a few months more since Tau dropped. In that time, the 40K codex writers/play-testers would have had a lot of time to work out how to try and balance an assault army with little/no real transports against such ranged heavy-weights. When you add in that Space Marines brought in the monster-countering grav guns, it really does raise questions as to how Tyranids will handle all of this firepower.

I personally think it could go one of three ways;
*Our 'assault' units - or the entire army - gets the ability to charge after running. If you change units like Hormagaunts and Trygons to move 12" in the movement phase - like Raveners - this will help a lot.
*All of our units get crazy cheap, including the monsters, and all monsters - except Hive Tyrants obviously - can be taken in broods. Make Carnifexes 90-110 points, make Trygons 150 points, etc, and let them be taken in broods of up to three. Carnifexes already do this, but are too expensive per model to justify it. Make all the monsters cheaper, and let them take broods.....ouch! Makes the most sense overall; GW gets more kits selling by encouraging larger armies, and that is how Tyranids fight thematically anyway - overwhelming numbers.
*We get crazy durability boosts and/or a lot of durable and mobile transports. Dark Eldar/Tau/Eldar/Grav Guns/Jaws counter Tyranids so well at range. Maybe adding in immunities or big boosts to number of wounds could counter-act this.

I'm not expecting a "weak" codex by any means. Codex: Space Marines isn't as "strong" as Eldar, Tau or Daemons, but it is still a damn sight better than most other codices in terms of competitive builds. I don't see this trend breaking. Besides, Games Workshop KNOWS the current book is absolutely despised because most of the units aren't worthwhile. It is quite possibly its most negatively received 40K codex in all of its history. I severely doubt they will stuff it up again.

I do share your concerns though Basically, if this codex ends up being a repeat of the 5th Edition book - and I'm not talking competitively by the way - I may just give up on them.

Da krimson barun wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

It would be believable if he said WHERE he heard it.Seriously if you can just do that then I could be a rumour spreader.They will make a new azog.I will not divulge my sources.DONE.

Why does he owe you that information? A part of how we have sources is because we keep them secret. Kroothawk has no reason to steer anybody wrong.

Caederes wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

It would be believable if he said WHERE he heard it.Seriously if you can just do that then I could be a rumour spreader.They will make a new azog.I will not divulge my sources.DONE.

Ok. So if Kroothawk says "I can't name my source, they have to remain anonymous" like EVERY rumour we see, what do you then say? Are you seriously having a go at someone for not willing to name their source? If someone from GW/wherever gives you some valuable new information, you don't compromise their position by leaking who they are.....
And besides, Kroothawk's reputation speaks for itself. He has no reason at all to lie.

Lets put it this way... one of the big pieces of Flak Wikileaks caught was that they initially didn't censor some details, which may have put lives at risk. They also came across as being decidedly glory-hungry, rather than entirely altruistic.

Kroots a classier type of informant; he's not putting the jobs of presumed friends and associates at risk by blabbering about his sources. However, despite his lack of citations, his information is generally quite good.

But the big question is, Kroot said there would be no Hobbit box in December. But will there be Tyranids?

As Tom Petty says- "The waiting is the hardest part"

BeeCee wrote:
But the big question is, Kroot said there would be no Hobbit box in December. But will there be Tyranids?

As Tom Petty says- "The waiting is the hardest part"

If he knew and/or felt it was necessary to divulge, I'm sure we'd have a good answer to that question. It's been asked on every page for about a week now, without answer.

It's not really a big question.

BeeCee wrote:
But the big question is, Kroot said there would be no Hobbit box in December. But will there be Tyranids?

As Tom Petty says- "The waiting is the hardest part"

If GW wants money, they will release Tyranids early. Does GW want money?

GW do want money but have a bloody odd way of going about it. For example, I was considering getting back into WHFB, which would have meant starting from scratch. Having seen the recent price hikes i've started two new WM/H factions instead. Why? Because PP are moving units from metal to plastic and significantly dropping the cost...not raising unit number requirements and upping core unit costs at the same time.

I digress.

I have been playing Nids since the beginning of Second edition so spare models aren't a problem for me but having said that i don't want to see things getting cheaper and even more hordey.

What I want is for Nids to start being deadly in CC again.

Yes, Hormagaunts need to be faster across the table again but they also need to go back to WS4 so that they don't take as many casualties in CC.

People need to have a reason to fear Genestealers in assault. Carnifexes actually need to be difficult to take down like they were in 2nd Edition. I'd like Lictors to stop being glorified homing beacons and actually something capable of tearing up a unit or two of backline troops in hand to hand by itself.

I want Nids to be as deadly to a Marine in assault as that Marine is to the Genestealer at range. But I doubt that will happen because too many Marine players will sulk. This would come as a painful shock to many Marine players (who still pout when non-Marines finally manage to win out in CC after three or four rounds of assault).


As to the fact we have had one image then nothing. I still think that was to do with Prodos launchign their AvP KS.

Barun - You must be new to this
Kroot is kind enough to drag up anything and everything he can for the members of dakka.
In no way is he expected to reveal who has given him the info as that king of thing tends to get people fired these days.

Just keep an eye on this thread and wait for the "told you so" thing to start.




Souleater - Give me cheaper or tougher fex's and stealers that can get into combat and i'd be happy

Caederes wrote:


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Da krimson barun wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

It would be believable if he said WHERE he heard it.Seriously if you can just do that then I could be a rumour spreader.They will make a new azog.I will not divulge my sources.DONE.

Ok. So if Kroothawk says "I can't name my source, they have to remain anonymous" like EVERY rumour we see, what do you then say? Are you seriously having a go at someone for not willing to name their source? If someone from GW/wherever gives you some valuable new information, you don't compromise their position by leaking who they are.....
And besides, Kroothawk's reputation speaks for itself. He has no reason at all to lie.

HAVE to remain anonymous?Strange on the one ring and the last alliance people are saying (5 or so)that there will be no new Rulebook but a journey/source book instead.And you know what?ALL of the say that a GW store employee said it.
Reasons I firmly believe them?
1.They say where they heard it.
2.It makes sense since 90% of the rules are fine.
3.It would be to expensive.
4.Lots of people said it.

Da krimson barun wrote:


...a GW store employee said it...

Yes, this must be true.

So, Barun, what you are saying is that Kroothawk's information would be more credible if he ended each individual segment of it with "Someone told me". There's no other way to keep it vague. Just to make up a job title, if Kroot said "the Assistant Project Director of Sales told me", this would do nothing for his information's credibility (because, like me, a false source could easily make someone up), and would only endanger the job of the person in question.

So, you would like him to be extremely vague. The point is, either way, you are taking Kroot's information on faith. If he said he got it from "someone" or "a GW employee" (which is far too vague to matter), you're still taking it on faith. Unless he said "I heard it from Steve Theman, Executive Fish Signer at GW" and you were an acquaintance of Steve Theman and could verify the information yourself. I highly doubt you know every "GW employee", so personally verifying the information is not an option.

So, your logic is extremely flawed. Either way, you're taking the information entirely on faith.

Meanwhile, I am really loving those Hive Guard!

EDIT: A GW store employee told me that Devastators (and Havocs) are all BS5. A GW store employee told me that a Warrior brood can all take Venom Cannons (although I disputed this with him, and said "I know they can in Dawn of War 2, but...", which got me quite a few disdainful looks). Even so, your logic is still flawed.

"They will make a new Azog. A GW store employee told me." There, I are credible information brokers just like Kroot am!

I said: "No new Hobbit starter box in December 2013". I said nothing about a small source book.
And I have no information on the Tyranid release date. Only speculation like everyone else on this.

Da krimson barun wrote:

Caederes wrote:


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Da krimson barun wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

It would be believable if he said WHERE he heard it.Seriously if you can just do that then I could be a rumour spreader.They will make a new azog.I will not divulge my sources.DONE.

Ok. So if Kroothawk says "I can't name my source, they have to remain anonymous" like EVERY rumour we see, what do you then say? Are you seriously having a go at someone for not willing to name their source? If someone from GW/wherever gives you some valuable new information, you don't compromise their position by leaking who they are.....
And besides, Kroothawk's reputation speaks for itself. He has no reason at all to lie.

HAVE to remain anonymous?Strange on the one ring and the last alliance people are saying (5 or so)that there will be no new Rulebook but a journey/source book instead.And you know what?ALL of the say that a GW store employee said it.
Reasons I firmly believe them?
1.They say where they heard it.
2.It makes sense since 90% of the rules are fine.
3.It would be to expensive.
4.Lots of people said it.

Erm, what?
Can someone please sort this troll out?
Having a go at Kroothawk is going to get you REALLY far here.....

Apparently Kroot also has to be multiple people in order to be considered valid. You know, because when a lot of people say something, it must be true. I won't mention religion, but...

EDIT: All the Tyranid rumours thus far are wrong. It's all a cover to hide the truth, a truth that has been hinted at since 4th edition. After eating so many Ultramarines, by the time of 6th Edition, the Tyranids have now become Ultramarines, the greatest of all Space Marines. This genetic perfection is the real reason why Behemoth attacked MacCragge.


Phil Kelly and Matt Ward told me. 100% legit 360 pro l33t noscope deluxe.

Caederes wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:

Caederes wrote:


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Da krimson barun wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

I trust Kroothawk with that rumour.

If you'd been around a while, you'd know the majority of Kroothawk's posts are legit.

It would be believable if he said WHERE he heard it.Seriously if you can just do that then I could be a rumour spreader.They will make a new azog.I will not divulge my sources.DONE.

Ok. So if Kroothawk says "I can't name my source, they have to remain anonymous" like EVERY rumour we see, what do you then say? Are you seriously having a go at someone for not willing to name their source? If someone from GW/wherever gives you some valuable new information, you don't compromise their position by leaking who they are.....
And besides, Kroothawk's reputation speaks for itself. He has no reason at all to lie.

HAVE to remain anonymous?Strange on the one ring and the last alliance people are saying (5 or so)that there will be no new Rulebook but a journey/source book instead.And you know what?ALL of the say that a GW store employee said it.
Reasons I firmly believe them?
1.They say where they heard it.
2.It makes sense since 90% of the rules are fine.
3.It would be to expensive.
4.Lots of people said it.

Erm, what?
Can someone please sort this troll out?
Having a go at Kroothawk is going to get you REALLY far here.....

I'm not trolling.Lets just agree to disagree.EXCUSE me for defendingn my favourite game.Frozen ocean:Yeah your right number 4 is pretty stupid.I agree.I'm not a troll.Zilka is a troll.Now as it turns out:On the extended edition DVD smaugs leg design has changed.Before he was four legged with wings on his back but now he has winged frontlegs.So he might actually be delayed.

Da krimson barun wrote:
Now as it turns out:On the extended edition DVD smaugs leg design has changed.Before he was four legged with wings on his back but now he has winged frontlegs.So he might actually be delayed.

Delayed as in: "There will be no new Hobbit starter box in December"?

@Da krimson barun

Defending your favourite game? Excuse me, how is having a go at someone for reporting a rumour "defending your game"? Kroothawk merely said there won't be a Hobbit starter box in December....So what are you trying to defend? Your refusal to accept that you over-reacted?

Kroothawk wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Now as it turns out:On the extended edition DVD smaugs leg design has changed.Before he was four legged with wings on his back but now he has winged frontlegs.So he might actually be delayed.

Delayed as in: "There will be no new Hobbit starter box in December"?

Hahaha!

On topic, anyone else excited that Fritz has been saying it will be Tyranids in December? Would certainly fit with Kroothawk's information.

The thing is, it fits their release pattern thus far. It's fairly certain that we'll get something in December, and all signs point toward it being Nids. Not to mention the Christmas angle - I know that pretty much everyone who is getting me a Christmas present will get me Tyranids if there's a release in December!