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2022/01/02 18:07:29
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
The long-awaited final Primarch in the Forge World Character Series is here at last, armoured in spectacularly detailed battle plate and striking a fittingly regal pose on his decorative base. Jaghatai Khan is one of the finest swordsmen in the galaxy, and his fearsome White Tiger Dao is as deadly as it is beautiful.
Of all his brothers, the Khan was the most accepting of the Great Crusade, travelling into the dark corners of the galaxy on a never-ending hunt for the Imperium’s deadliest foes. His presence is so inspiring to his White Scar sons that they surge forwards into battle with even greater vigour, and his masterful grasp of flanking manoeuvres allows him to deploy effortlessly across the battlefield.
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2022/01/02 18:37:49
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Siege of Terra Characters (No, not the leaked box!)
I like how GW on one hand spams dozens of completely redundant, no models units for HH. In the last batch, we have yet another Inner Circle termie unit with slightly bigger swords, that for some reason is expert in fighting daemons despite seeing them for the first time plus extra cheese on top in getting to instant death everything, stubborn, bonus deny, rending, having +1 WS and overwatch with plasma guns despite being unit type specifically banned from being so for FREE.
Then we have destroyer squad that for some reason can take flamers pretty much making tactical support squads obsolete while wielding 3 weapons at once at very low weapon cost because screw having units that have any weaknesses. Note, I am not opposed to flamer destroyers, just execution is dumb (why not two flame pistols, for one, to fit the theme?). Why they swap pistols, not bolters, for heavy flamers? And why these are so expensive? And how sarge handles two two handed weapons and a pistol at the same time?
As dude I know commented, giving DA something from other wings (tank variant for the armored one, for example) instead of spamming the wing suffering from bloat even before, giving DG some sort of durable unit, or giving shattered legions ANYTHING (especially the one that was actually in this battle but was ignored for unit pick...) would be far more useful than what we got, but whatever.
Hey, GW, how about giving the same to 40K? We could use a few variant primaris units like SW hounds, you have no excuse to not do them after this. And fire the idiot who thought gluing one of dozens of power sword we already have to primaris units is VERBOTEN because that inept is sabotaging the whole army
2022/01/23 23:27:14
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Dark Angels and Death Guard
Cant speak much on the Inner Circle Termies other than its dumb they are the same thing as the other ones, but in white armor, with different swords and one extra rule.
But for the Death Guard, you'd consider taking TSS squads over them because;
A: TSS are Cheaper than Poisoners
B: TSS are Troops not Elites
C: They can score, Poisoners cant.
But the Poisoners do have good options to counter that out a bit.
2022/01/24 01:36:03
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Dark Angels and Death Guard
They're also cool and a very fluffy DG unit which is what HH is all about. I didn't bring 2 Malcadors and 2 Macharius to an event recently because they're optimal or meta, I did it because 4 large tanks surrounded by hordes of streaming cultists is awesome. The HH crowd loves its narrative, the Rule of Cool is heavily encouraged and for most people it's about the spectacle and story rather than winning all the points. It's why the WHW HH Tournament wasn't warmly received in the wider community compared to the narrative events usually run because power gaming and cheesemongering is generally looked down on.
2022/01/24 05:25:46
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Dark Angels and Death Guard
I read those rules and thought, if only Psychic Awakening would have been like this. An interesting, grimdark narrative, some narrative missions and even models painted just for that free document. GW couldn't even paint some of the renegade Marines War of the Spider was about and instead just took Black Legion Marines they had lying around.
2022/01/24 14:15:51
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Dark Angels and Death Guard
Meh, I'll believe it when they actually announce it. This would be at least the third time that they've done a preview since the Horus Heresy box leak that people thought "woo they're finally going to announce this", so forgive me for not getting my hopes up again.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
2022/01/24 16:15:45
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Dark Angels and Death Guard
Gert wrote: They're also cool and a very fluffy DG unit which is what HH is all about. I didn't bring 2 Malcadors and 2 Macharius to an event recently because they're optimal or meta, I did it because 4 large tanks surrounded by hordes of streaming cultists is awesome. The HH crowd loves its narrative, the Rule of Cool is heavily encouraged and for most people it's about the spectacle and story rather than winning all the points. It's why the WHW HH Tournament wasn't warmly received in the wider community compared to the narrative events usually run because power gaming and cheesemongering is generally looked down on.
I suppose that all depends on the area. I had friends here that said it started fluffy in the big groups and then turned into cheese mongering.
Here's hoping that theres a box announced at the event, but Im betting its Praetors for Legions with out, or a resize for Legions that do.
2022/01/24 17:19:22
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Dark Angels and Death Guard
It definitely does but generally, I've found that the wider community both online and in-person likes to focus on narrative and authenticity compared to WAAC and meta listing. My group swung pretty hard into massive amounts of cheese before a lot of people just burned out and left which resulted in our group becoming smaller and more focused on running campaigns and the like.
2022/01/24 19:42:02
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Dark Angels and Death Guard
JWBS wrote: Or could easily just be some resin Praetors or some chapter veterans or something.
It's very much likely just to be resin praetors or some other minor item like a new special character. They have another preview before the summer, so I'm not sure why they'd show the new box this far ahead, when they aren't likely to release it until the summer, or more likely, the fall, to coincide with the 35th anniversary of Rogue Trader's release.
Every single time we get Horus Heresy in the previews, people psyche themselves up like this.