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2013/05/20 22:58:55
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Executing Exarch
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I have the sinking feeling wraithlords are going to drop to T6
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2013/05/20 23:00:59
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Oh most certainly. That new beast is gonna take the Lord's role I reckon.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right.
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2013/05/20 23:03:06
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wraithlords T7 3+ armor (4+ invul upgrade optional)
Wraith Knight T7- 8 2+ armor (3+ invul upgrade optional)
Wraith Guard T5 with 3+ armor
Those are my official predictions
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2013/05/20 23:03:22
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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If WL drop to T6 I might quite playing Eldar to be honest. Yes it's a bit extreme, but this is a "straw that broke the camel's back" situation.
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"Russ - This guy is basically werewolf Dick Cheney. No pity at all."
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2013/05/20 23:06:40
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Executing Exarch
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 BlueDagger wrote:
Wraithlords T7 3+ armor (4+ invul upgrade optional)
Wraith Knight T7- 8 2+ armor (3+ invul upgrade optional)
Wraith Guard T5 with 3+ armor
Those are my official predictions
Im guessing T5 wraithguard, T6 Lord, T7-8 for the knight.
Gotta say, after those prices and what GW has been doing recently, GW has managed to gut my excitement for this release.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/20 23:07:47
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2013/05/20 23:06:42
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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so the wraith knight stands at 9 inches tall....a warhound titan is only 10ish inches. Suddenly massive war engines arent so massive anymore
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2013/05/20 23:08:04
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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 ironicsilence wrote:so the wraith knight stands at 9 inches tall....a warhound titan is only 10ish inches. Suddenly massive war engines arent so massive anymore
The Eldar took Pacific Rim's advice, go big or go extinct.
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Fury from faith
Faith in fury
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2013/05/20 23:08:47
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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So, the gist of this thread is... buy your Dire Avengers now?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/20 23:08:57
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2013/05/20 23:09:05
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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ironicsilence wrote:so the wraith knight stands at 9 inches tall....a warhound titan is only 10ish inches. Suddenly massive war engines arent so massive anymore
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Baneblades were in the next Codex: Imperial Guard.
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2013/05/20 23:10:04
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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How big is the Stompa? Could it be included in codex orks?
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2013/05/20 23:11:13
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Well my official prediction would be wraithguard T5, Wraithlord T8 and Wraithknight T6, but better save shenanigans will make the wraithknight more survivable.
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2013/05/20 23:12:03
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Kingsley wrote: ironicsilence wrote:so the wraith knight stands at 9 inches tall....a warhound titan is only 10ish inches. Suddenly massive war engines arent so massive anymore
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Baneblades were in the next Codex: Imperial Guard.
i wonder if we will see a "size creep" start to appear in forge world? I imagine making all new titans would be poor business sense but if a new titan class got released I wonder how big it would need to be to some what be to scale
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2013/05/20 23:12:10
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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 The Grumpy Eldar wrote: azreal13 wrote:
That's a pretty extreme reaction as we don't know anything a out the rules? Surely the lack of new models in the release is almost good news(!) for existing players? You could be one codex purchase away from being the new Necrons.
It might be in your eyes. I mean, do you expect me to buy the new Dire Avengers when the old box had 5 more in it for the same price. Some things might be good like the Wraithguard (If they stay the same price), but pricing the troop choise like that... I'd actually see it scare new players away.
What, as an existing player you don't have any Dire Avengers already? It's a rebox, not a new sculpt. Ok, I'll take your point about new players, but why does that make the sky fall on you?
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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2013/05/20 23:12:11
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I wish I didn't just start an Ork army now :(
Eldar and Orks are the only two armies I've never collected.
And since I've never beaten Eldar, I got a feeling I won't be soon either.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right.
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2013/05/20 23:14:32
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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@Nocturnus: Well I was exaggerating.. But I'll be happy to pay them for new kits that look cool and that i enjoy painting. That is how they make money isn't it? By selling miniatures and rules for their game? This is how this thing got started no? I will not defend their pricing hikes on existing minis but I am a huge fan of the potential wider range of minis.
The fact that they could specialize eldar like marines has its advantages. Not a wraith guy? Like bikes? Ok- spend ur money on those kits and get sweet new rules that make ur army different from other craft worlds. In the long run it will mean more options for everyone both rules wise and for minis. Why is that so awful? Just because rules aren't tangible doesnt mean they have no value.
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2013/05/20 23:15:44
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Any way can we get pics of these new wraithguard and a proper one of the flyer ans someone must have the WD
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 1850 Blood Angels 
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2013/05/20 23:17:05
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Wait, hold on...
Warhammer 40000: Codex Wraith
Eldar Wraithknight
Eldar Hemlock Wraithfighter/ Crimson Wraith
Eldar Wraithguard/Wraithblades
Eldar Wraithseers
Reformatted Eldar Wraith Force
Warhammer 40000: Eldar Wraith Avengers
Illic Wraithspear
Eldar Spiritwraith
Psychic Cards: Wraith
No new Jetbikes???
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2013/05/20 23:18:00
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Fixture of Dakka
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ironicsilence wrote:so the wraith knight stands at 9 inches tall....a warhound titan is only 10ish inches. Suddenly massive war engines arent so massive anymore
Height-wise, maybe. But in bulk, the Warhound and Stompa are both still far larger.
As for size, if the Wraithknight is a walker with 4-5 hull points, the Warhound is still 9 Hull point equivalent and 2 void shields, and the Stompa is 12 Hull points.
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2013/05/20 23:18:38
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:Wait, hold on...
Warhammer 40000: Codex Wraith
Eldar Wraithknight
Eldar Hemlock Wraithfighter/ Crimson Wraith
Eldar Wraithguard/Wraithblades
Eldar Wraithseers
Reformatted Eldar Wraith Force
Warhammer 40000: Eldar Wraith Avengers
Illic Wraithspear
Eldar Spiritwraith
Psychic Cards: Wraith
No new Jetbikes???
No, because minimum wage.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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2013/05/20 23:19:36
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 Eldar Man wrote:Any way can we get pics of these new wraithguard and a proper one of the flyer ans someone must have the WD
Yes please! Also all the characters would be nice as well. Still bummed there will be no new Avatar.
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2013/05/20 23:22:51
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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One important question is what exactly the "Windrider Jetbikes" are. Hopefully, this is a new Jetbike kit and not just a rename and repackage, as the current Jetbikes are some of the worst models in the Eldar range. Of course, even if it is a repackage that will be helpful as it'll bring prices down-- but I don't think many people will be very happy with that given the big price hike on Dire Avengers!
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2013/05/20 23:25:03
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kingsley wrote:One important question is what exactly the "Windrider Jetbikes" are. Hopefully, this is a new Jetbike kit and not just a rename and repackage, as the current Jetbikes are some of the worst models in the Eldar range. Of course, even if it is a repackage that will be helpful as it'll bring prices down-- but I don't think many people will be very happy with that given the big price hike on Dire Avengers!
It probably is just a rename. The big Apoc bundle was the Windrider Host, so a Windrider Squadron makes sense, and sounds more poetic than Guardian Jetbike Squadron.
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2013/05/20 23:25:04
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I decided to delete this.
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2013/05/20 23:25:54
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Kingsley wrote:One important question is what exactly the "Windrider Jetbikes" are. Hopefully, this is a new Jetbike kit and not just a rename and repackage, as the current Jetbikes are some of the worst models in the Eldar range. Of course, even if it is a repackage that will be helpful as it'll bring prices down-- but I don't think many people will be very happy with that given the big price hike on Dire Avengers!
It's a rename and a repackage. Par for the course has been 3 new plastic boxes and one plastic blister since Chaos Space Marines, and those three new plastic kits are taken up this time with the Wraithknight, airplane, and Wraithguard. It's just three in one box, like the Crisis Suits.
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2013/05/20 23:26:13
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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2013/05/20 23:28:47
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Been Around the Block
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the dire avenger 5 in a box thing has me little worried especialy if its the same old crap sculpts but I do have a few boxes of them thankfuly.
as for the knight dont think its super heavy or will be even classed as such so will be used in normal games. I have been hoping for a lot more for eldar like ditching those utter sh*t finecast aspects same horrible sculpts from the early 90's
eldar needed alot of replacement models and got none apart from wraith gaurd which still not seen any pics for which is just a damn shame. as much as I like the new units so far its sad that they didnt show bit more love to a good old race wonder what crap they will give us for the great green tide
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2013/05/20 23:32:26
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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As it happens I went back and removed my post before I saw your reply. But feel free to quote me or whatever.
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2013/05/20 23:32:33
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Kroothawk wrote:GW needs to double the prices for standard troops to keep revenue flat? Dire times indeed!
BTW: Fun fact: Wraithfighter is a bomber, not a fighter. But GW only realised that after the 5 creative seconds for naming this unit. 
Fun fact: The F-117 "Stealth Fighter" is ALSO not a fighter, but rather a bomber. 
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2013/05/20 23:34:09
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Zealous Knight
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Puscifer wrote:And since I've never beaten Eldar, I got a feeling I won't be soon either.
You're perfectly welcome to come fly over and quite probably change that somewhere next week 
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2013/05/20 23:35:09
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MajorWesJanson wrote: Kroothawk wrote:BTW: Fun fact: Wraithfighter is a bomber, not a fighter. But GW only realised that after the 5 creative seconds for naming this unit.
BTW: Fun fact: The F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter was a bomber, not a fighter. The USAF didn't bother correcting people, and the plane is now retired.
I should have known that it'd have already been said.
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