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Wasn't sure about this one- thought about picking it up but it seems quite expensive for a board game which is basically the fellowship sprue and what appears to a slightly more elaborate snakes and ladders board.
The Moria one they did previously felt more like a mini-wargame and whilst I've not got around to painting it felt like it has more playability (at least being able to be pulled out for quick games once a year perhaps at our winters game days or something) and was a lot cheaper in comparison to this one.
It was available previously, so there are probably some reviews out there.
Wasn't sure about this one- thought about picking it up but it seems quite expensive for a board game which is basically the fellowship sprue and what appears to a slightly more elaborate snakes and ladders board.
The Moria one they did previously felt more like a mini-wargame and whilst I've not got around to painting it felt like it has more playability (at least being able to be pulled out for quick games once a year perhaps at our winters game days or something) and was a lot cheaper in comparison to this one.
It was available previously, so there are probably some reviews out there.
Yup, and it doesn't look promising - mediocre to bad is the general vibe. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/257324/the-lord-of-the-rings-quest-to-mount-doom/ratings Game design feels antiquated, and not befitting its theme either. Probably fine to play with younger children, but then, why not play something actually good that everyone can enjoy? Especially when you can purchase multiple games for the price of this single uninspired specimen.
When I look at the game, just taking it in as a concept, if I were to design it I'd assume you'd do sort of a Runebound/Arkham Horror/Talisman move-around-the-board-and-have-an-adventure type of game. You'd want like a deck of 200 different event cards. And it's GW, they mass produce minis in their own factory for less than a penny each (unless you're a stan, in which case I understand it's times-a-million that much), why not design the game to include some boss orc minis to represent warbands or armies, a few monsters who you have to face if you want through an area, etc.? I paid $60 to get War of the Ring, this game, as it actually is, seems pretty light by comparison.
That's a hilarious rule. I want to see him with Anduril.
What if he steals something like the Royal Standard of Rohan or another item that affects ['X' keyword]? Like in the case of aforementioned standard, does [Rohan Hero] become [Angmar Hero]? It looks like a fun rule that, while probably not game winning, will certainly open up some wacky situations once in a while when you jag a kill on someone special.
He's definitely a comedy model. The odds of him ever killing Elessar, Elendil and such is probably next to nil. But on the rare occasion it does happen, it's going to be one of the gaming moment.
That is an embarrassing looking game from GW. Especially at that price. Short of some of the miniatures everything else GW produces has really low production values, but this is a step below that.
Looks like a bargain bin game from a garage publisher.
Agreed Gallahad. Take a look at the wonderful boardgames FFG and Ares produce for LotR and then compare it to GW’s. The latter’s low-effort game is bad even compared to GW’s boardgames of the late 80’s.
When it comes to MESBG, I see the 2005 Mines of Moria set and think "Bingo!". Its a shame they don't revise that as a lighter but more adventurous alternative to the Osgiliath set.
When it comes to MESBG, I see the 2005 Mines of Moria set and think "Bingo!". Its a shame they don't revise that as a lighter but more adventurous alternative to the Osgiliath set.
They did release a 'board game version' within the last couple of years. Didn't come with the plastic terrain but had those figures.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
When it comes to MESBG, I see the 2005 Mines of Moria set and think "Bingo!". Its a shame they don't revise that as a lighter but more adventurous alternative to the Osgiliath set.
They did release a 'board game version' within the last couple of years. Didn't come with the plastic terrain but had those figures.
Still a modest game under every aspect but at least can be fun to play, more thematic and good as an introduction for this world.
Dawnbringer wrote: I suppose its news someone is actually making content for the game?
Yeah, something like that But seriously, maybe someone will see it here in N&R, where is more traffic, and get some interest in a game otherwise overlooked because their huge neighbours of 40k and AoS.
We're getting another season and RoP and the Rohirrim film soon, not to mention a new book ocming soon....ish. Lots of LOTR traffic coming our way hopefully.
The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space.
40k and Aos apart GW often "pauses" game in order to push one system at time - it is happened with Necromunda, Horus Heresy and even Tow now.
As you said there is lot of things incoming for the "franchise" (sigh), not olny a new supplement and Rop but a new anime AND a new live film produced by Jackson so hype will rise again and again. Free advertising for the game.
Which unfortunately won't go anywhere so long as they are still pushing the plastics from the original three films.
They aren't in scale with the rest of the range and desperately need redoing. Especially the plastic horses, where half of them rely on a single ankle at the rear to hold it up, I can't count how many I've broken over the years. They also don't even compare to the numerous historical manufacturers out there (Victrix, Perrys, etc) and now they are several better options for orcs / goblins as well.
6 films - there is plastic for the Hobbit range too.
Honestly I don't care as far as we understand what Lotr means for GW and how they support the game. If people remain interested in this universe and GW keep selling somehow miniatures that enough to keep the game going on.
Johanxp wrote: 6 films - there is plastic for the Hobbit range too.
Yes, but it is the original three films where the range suffers the most, especially in scale. By which I mean the ones released as part of those films coming out, not necessarily in that what they represent is in them. So the Last Alliance set, plastic Rohan, and Plastic WoMT. The baddies as well depending how you want them to compare size wise, but I view it as less of an issue, though more that every 10 - 12 guys look the same.
Just compare Victrix Late Roman (under the dark ages tab) range with what's on offer from GW. Unless one is very tied to the movie 'look' (and as a book fan, I am not) they just don't compete one price or quality or options. I'd probably buy around a hundred Warriors of Numenor if they redid them in proper 28mm (not Warhammer scale, just the same as 28mm historics) as I do like the look. But of what they are offering currently, even if I didn't have my collection from 10-20 years ago (glup) there are to many high quality competitors out there now that I wouldn't buy it again, outside of some of the newer sets (Army of the Dead, Rangers, Corsairs, Easterlings). I wouldn't even do the Rivendell forces as the mounted ones are nice but the foot ones don't match in scale and spears still aren't in plastic...
Anyway, I'll stop whingeing as the thread is meant to be for news and rumours, not a complaint box.
back in the days, 25mm was chosen as scale to be different from Warhammer as this was part of the license (same as GW stores did not allow the LotR models to be used in warhammer games)
but now with the other games being 32mm, they could be re-done in 28mm
the other point was that this were cheap and easy to build models aimed at a very different target group that would never touch the expensive and complicated warhammer models for gaming
and one reason why GW is still doing something with the game is simply that no one else can make a game as this would compete with their other games
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
Dawnbringer wrote: Which unfortunately won't go anywhere so long as they are still pushing the plastics from the original three films.
They aren't in scale with the rest of the range and desperately need redoing. Especially the plastic horses, where half of them rely on a single ankle at the rear to hold it up, I can't count how many I've broken over the years. They also don't even compare to the numerous historical manufacturers out there (Victrix, Perrys, etc) and now they are several better options for orcs / goblins as well.
I was under the impression that the new models were in scale with the classic ones, and the issue was too many copies of the same models? Curious now as to whether there is any size difference between the Fellowship and Three Hunters set, where Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas is concerned...
Dawnbringer wrote: Which unfortunately won't go anywhere so long as they are still pushing the plastics from the original three films.
They aren't in scale with the rest of the range and desperately need redoing. Especially the plastic horses, where half of them rely on a single ankle at the rear to hold it up, I can't count how many I've broken over the years. They also don't even compare to the numerous historical manufacturers out there (Victrix, Perrys, etc) and now they are several better options for orcs / goblins as well.
I was under the impression that the new models were in scale with the classic ones, and the issue was too many copies of the same models? Curious now as to whether there is any size difference between the Fellowship and Three Hunters set, where Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas is concerned...
The size issue is pretty much just with the plastics that came out in the 2001 - 2003 period, the metal from that time are fine. Which is why I always get a bit annoyed when people try and say LotR is / was 25mm. It never had a consistent scale, the metals from that period end up a half head taller than the plastics. It was exceptionally noticeable between the original metal Gondor Rangers and the plastic WoMT. I'd dig out examples but unfortunately my collection is in storage the other side of the Atlantic.
That's an example, though using the Last Alliance set and a metal Arnorian.
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