Middle-Earth SBG news/rumours thread. Battle of Edoras starter set . p.69

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**Snrub**

Ah righto. Nice to know it's not just an us problem then.

**ZergSmasher**

Well that's bs and it screws over the independent shops. Why make that book harder to get? Seems a bit arbitrary.

**.Mikes.**

We're heading back to the Spots The Space Marine era of GW sh*tfu**ery.

**kodos**

ZergSmasher wrote:
Well that's bs and it screws over the independent shops. Why make that book harder to get? Seems a bit arbitrary.

there is a limited amount of books anyway (a single print run doesn't last forever) and GW makes more money with it by selling it thru their own shops
Also it being a "veteran" system no advertising for new players is needed by putting books on a shelf in a general store, everyone who plays the game knows how to get the books anyway.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

And we have a plastic Theodred

**SamusDrake**

Finally, Hera has been pre-ordered. Had to get it over £20 for free P&P so I treated myself to a Warg Chieftan, so that he can chase Hera around Middle Earth, a bit like Gmork and Atreyu from Neverending Story.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Surpisingly everything was a good price imo. All the new plastics being under £20 after discounters was surprising, so i got one of everything.

**Mallo**

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Surpisingly everything was a good price imo. All the new plastics being under £20 after discounters was surprising, so i got one of everything.

I got the new plastics, but I actually got 2 Heras. I simply couldn't decide if I'd want to do her with or without the cloak. Plus there is a lack of shieldmaiden characters available anyway, so if I end up painting one and don't want to paint the second as is, it will make for great conversion fodder.

Technically both Imrahil and Bolg are both duplicates as well (as I have the originals). Imrahil will go nicely with the resin sculpts and his older metal sculpt can be downgraded to a champion for 'regular' unit of swan knights.

I don't play MESBG anyway, so having duplicates for other characters work outs great for me!

Bit shocked at the price of some of the returning metals, but I only really need two or three kits now to complete a couple of gaps. I've almost completed everything I want to get from the MESBG range at this point. They will have to wait though, as too many Old world + MESBG releases in one week, and warlord games is choosing to end their 2000ad lines this week to so its been a costly week.

**SamusDrake**

Was also agonizing over the cloak.

At the moment I'm thinking the cloak for when Hera is on the horse - traveling mode. But on foot, she looks more ready for action without the cloak...

On the other hand she still looks great the other way around. Oh s***, I should've put two on the tab as well...

**Inquisitor Gideon**

So this guy's getting a single release next week

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yvrlx5af/sunday-preview-chaos-knights-crush-the-competition/

Why next week and not just drop him this week is anyone's guess

**Johanxp**

Bought some times ago (with the now-useless other dunleding heroes). But nice to see something more is made available for the players.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Johanxp wrote:
Bought some times ago (with the now-useless other dunleding heroes). But nice to see something more is made available for the players.

I got them all as well. I just run the two characters as Dunlending chieftans now, they fit just as well.

**ZergSmasher**

One thing I noticed that irks me a little about the rerelease of the Woses warriors is that now they come with 15 plus Ghan-buri-ghan. When I bought the box it was only 12. I feel slightly shafted, but I don't think it's going to be a huge deal. Unless you are required to bring exactly 15 for the Paths of the Druadan list, then I'll be mad as hell. Last edition you were required to bring 12, so let's hope they dropped that requirement.

**Baragash**

ZergSmasher wrote:
One thing I noticed that irks me a little about the rerelease of the Woses warriors is that now they come with 15 plus Ghan-buri-ghan. When I bought the box it was only 12. I feel slightly shafted, but I don't think it's going to be a huge deal. Unless you are required to bring exactly 15 for the Paths of the Druadan list, then I'll be mad as hell. Last edition you were required to bring 12, so let's hope they dropped that requirement.

People complained about 12 because there was one situation where you could use 15 and no convenient/direct way to acquire the other 3, so hopefully it is still optional as I also have the 12 box.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Did someone say Swan Knights? Because i'm sure i heard someone say Swan Knights

**Dysartes**

Where'd they show up, Gideon? Haven't seen owt on WarCom about them coming back (yet).

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Warhammer Facebook page.

**Johanxp**

Well, good but... new resin knights are far better than those. And is the same for the plastic knights in armoured horse.
I should buy DA command group as I miss capitan and banner on horse... uhm...

**Snrub**

Are you fething kidding me? Damn you GW, pulling this gak when I really don't have cash to throw at it.

I've been chasing that Faramir for ages. And I'd not say no to that command pack either. Hopefully it's not for another month or so.

Johanxp wrote:
Well, good but... new resin knights are far better than those. And is the same for the plastic knights in armoured horse.

Oh I'm the complete opposite, the metal knights are far superior. I dislike the unhelmeted heads on the resin versions.

**ZergSmasher**

I really want that Faramir, and I'd love to grab a pack or two of the foot knights and the Dol Amroth command set. Cost is going to determine what I get, as always. For the mounted guys, if they are way too high I can just get the plastic ones, but I'd be willing to bet that the metal foot guys will be cheaper than the FW resin ones.

**Tim the Biovore**

Snrub wrote:
Johanxp wrote:
Well, good but... new resin knights are far better than those. And is the same for the plastic knights in armoured horse.
Oh I'm the complete opposite, the metal knights are far superior. I dislike the unhelmeted heads on the resin versions.

You're free to prefer the classic metal style of the old sculpts, but you do know the resin kit has six helmeted heads in it, right?

**Commodus Leitdorf**

Uggg they just had to announce these Made to Order NOW. After I just dropped $$$ on Wood Elves?

Ugg my wallet will hate me. I want all those models....

**Snrub**

Tim the Biovore wrote:
You're free to prefer the classic metal style of the old sculpts, but you do know the resin kit has six helmeted heads in it, right?

I was not aware of that as it happens. I was under the vague impression that the banner bearer's head was moulded to the banner. I'm quite pleased to be wrong if that's not the case.
I certainly don't dislike the resin sculpts. It was mainly just the unhelmeted heads that were my issue. Being able to have them all helmeted certainly puts them on parity with the metal versions as far as I'm concerned.

Having just gone back to the webstore to look at them, I note they're no longer present on the site. What with plastic Imrahil, and the existing plastic mounted knights, dare we hope for some plastic foot knights/men-at-arms in the near future. And possibly a Dol Amroth battlehost? (Hint hint GW. Hint hint.)

**Inquisitor Gideon**

A whole two PDF's this week.

Legacies PDF and a narrative PDF:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jysh351k/legacies-of-middle-earth-rules-for-yet-more-warriors-of-good-and-evil/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ngkqwxdu/narrative-play-in-middle-earthtm-the-desolation-of-smaugtm/

**Johanxp**

That Minas Tirith + dwarfs army looks tasty.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Seeing as i managed to pick up 10 half trolls bnib just lately for 50, i feel a far harad list is in my future.

**Ghaz**

Wrong thread

**ZergSmasher**

Honestly, this takes some of the sting out of these models going to Legacies, as they do look like they'd be fun to play in casual games even if most events won't allow them. Now if I can somehow lay my hands on some Khandish Horsemen for a not-outlandish sum of money...

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Swan Knight MTO next week,

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/piux6zf8/sunday-preview-grand-cathay-marches-from-nan-gau/

Personally i'm in for two units of 12, 2 commands and Faramir.

**ZergSmasher**

This is absolutely HORRIBLE timing, being alongside the Cathay release for Old World. Especially since it seems both are going to be FOMO releases (they said the Cathay battalion will be limited). Now I'm gonna have to pick and choose. We'll have to see the pricing, but I'm leaning toward getting Middle-Earth stuff rather than starting yet another army for a game system I've only played a little bit of. I probably will want at least the Dol Amroth commanders and one or two sets of the foot knights if they are cheaper than the FW ones, and I really want that Faramir.