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Courageous Space Marine Captain






 zend wrote:
Also why is there pushback on female Stormcast?

Oh, that's easy to answer. Sexism. There is no point pretending that it is anything else. There isn't even the fig leaf of 'muh lore' like with the Marines, as female Stormcast were established in the lore from the get go.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






 CMLR wrote:
And yeah, Sequitors don't have visible dumb boob armor, and that is refreshing, but I am not complaining about that being the only difference, I am pointing out that boob plate at all is dumb.


It's not any dumber than your average bronze thorax. Or, more importantly, the male Stormcast armour, which is clearly inspired by certain late archaic/early classical Greek armour designs.

In fact, the armour of those new female Stormcasts is more advanced than that of their male counterparts, as it doesn't have a catch area right in the middle of the chest. Lucky girls.

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 Asherian Command wrote:
Until you remember that is not entirely true, its not a surefire way of returning to Azyr, as they have literally said. Before they said that the stormcasts couldn't go home now there is a very high chance they can't go back. And yes it is meant to be a bit nobler and less dark than 40k. It is not 40k.

I don't think its bad writing in anyway. Don't be reductive.


Where does it say there is a very high chance they can't go home? I just forced myself to sit through their video stream and the guy says, "It almost always" brings them back home. Seems like a pretty far throw from "a very high chance they can't go home."

So yes, it is boring writing.

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Calculating Commissar







 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:

Where does it say there is a very high chance they can't go home? I just forced myself to sit through their video stream and the guy says, "It almost always" brings them back home. Seems like a pretty far throw from "a very high chance they can't go home."

So yes, it is boring writing.

A low risk of something very bad happening doesn't raise the stakes particularly well. It's a bit like the Rubicon in 40k. When it was introduced, we were told it was a risky procedure that couldn't be implemented as standard - explaining why Firstborn still exist at all - yet every single major character who it's been done to has survived.
   
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Eastern Fringe

^^ You forgot to say "I think"

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The first rule of unarmed combat is: don’t be unarmed. 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Damn, missed the preview due to work but very happy to be so wrong in my prediction.

Let the good times roll.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Lake County, Illinois

 CMLR wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Those stormcast do look good. I hope they don't make them 50% women, though.


They might, literally half of the new Thunder Force Armoured Sigmarines have boobplate armor, look closely: they are the golden and black coloured ones.


Yes, I saw that. Two of the previewed ones are female, and they have different bodies. So if there's 5 of them to a sprue, that means at least 40% of them will be female, which is way too many.
   
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Calculating Commissar







So for you only a strict 1/5 is acceptable?

Dig me a grave where I can nurture a hatred most sublime
For the fools who made this mess and think it not a crime 
   
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Infiltrating Broodlord




Lake County, Illinois

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
Due to the machinations of Be’lakor, the souls of Stormcast Eternals are no longer guaranteed to return for their reforging – but thunderstrike armour is wrought expressly to give them the power to pierce the supernatural clouds hanging over the realms and make their way safely back to Azyr.

This is a perfect example of how bad the writing is these days.

The storyline advances and creates a new problem, which is immediately solved by way of something which happens to be a new kit. They are literally the same thing as primaris, just in a very slightly different package.

I need to remind myself this game is primarily aimed at 13 year olds.


Yes, I had the same thought when I read that. I find out about some big development that happened in the story, and in the very same sentence find out it doesn't really matter anymore.
   
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Ravenous Beast Form







So what are Stormcast in old armour supposed to be now? The ones Sigmar doesn't like well enough to give them a respawn suit?

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Mighty Vampire Count






UK

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Those stormcast do look good. I hope they don't make them 50% women, though.


They might, literally half of the new Thunder Force Armoured Sigmarines have boobplate armor, look closely: they are the golden and black coloured ones.


Yes, I saw that. Two of the previewed ones are female, and they have different bodies. So if there's 5 of them to a sprue, that means at least 40% of them will be female, which is way too many.


Well for you others will be happy to have the variety rather than just males or mainly males. Different strokes.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
So what are Stormcast in old armour supposed to be now? The ones Sigmar doesn't like well enough to give them a respawn suit?

I guess they get new armour if and when they get back to Azyr - if they have enough.

Opportunity to remake the named characters.....

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I AM A MARINE PLAYER

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Stormin' Stompa






 lord_blackfang wrote:
So what are Stormcast in old armour supposed to be now? The ones Sigmar doesn't like well enough to give them a respawn suit?


I guess you have to consider them as the ones that are effectively cut off from Azyr and haven't been granted the new suits yet. Effectively the firstborn equivalent for Stormcast and the new ones being Primaris "reinforcements".
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






 lord_blackfang wrote:
So what are Stormcast in old armour supposed to be now? The ones Sigmar doesn't like well enough to give them a respawn suit?

Don't think about it. Buy new ones.
   
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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Those stormcast do look good. I hope they don't make them 50% women, though.


Women are half the species.

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Philadelphia PA

The spears aren't bad, not very hyped about the heavier armored lion chest ones.

I'd be happy to trade any male stormcast models for female ones to save some folks on here from catching cooties
   
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Mighty Vampire Count






UK

 Grimskul wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
So what are Stormcast in old armour supposed to be now? The ones Sigmar doesn't like well enough to give them a respawn suit?


I guess you have to consider them as the ones that are effectively cut off from Azyr and haven't been granted the new suits yet. Effectively the firstborn equivalent for Stormcast and the new ones being Primaris "reinforcements".


Depends on the supply line as well - how much have they got of the new suits and how quickly can they get them to cut off areas - Quite a few Realmgates have been blown up. Shipping them out is a little risky - quite a few would love to get hold of them (especially Ikit!)- and if there is a explosive element - some fun sabotage prospects for Skaven and the like.

I am also interested to see what happens to all the Dark Elves and Daughters of Khaine in the Realm Of Azyr - is Sigmar going to ccarry out another purge?

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I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Charing Cold One Knight





 Albino Squirrel wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Those stormcast do look good. I hope they don't make them 50% women, though.


They might, literally half of the new Thunder Force Armoured Sigmarines have boobplate armor, look closely: they are the golden and black coloured ones.


Yes, I saw that. Two of the previewed ones are female, and they have different bodies. So if there's 5 of them to a sprue, that means at least 40% of them will be female, which is way too many.


You must be fun at parties.

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- Secondary Armies -
Drukhari | Necrons || Tyranids | Daughters of Khaine | Blades of Khorne | Stormcast Eternals
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






 Albino Squirrel wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Those stormcast do look good. I hope they don't make them 50% women, though.


They might, literally half of the new Thunder Force Armoured Sigmarines have boobplate armor, look closely: they are the golden and black coloured ones.


Yes, I saw that. Two of the previewed ones are female, and they have different bodies. So if there's 5 of them to a sprue, that means at least 40% of them will be female, which is way too many.


Why, pray tell?
   
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Remember this?
https://youtu.be/Q9daI6m4KsM

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— Vala Mal Doran
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






 Mr Morden wrote:
 Grimskul wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
So what are Stormcast in old armour supposed to be now? The ones Sigmar doesn't like well enough to give them a respawn suit?


I guess you have to consider them as the ones that are effectively cut off from Azyr and haven't been granted the new suits yet. Effectively the firstborn equivalent for Stormcast and the new ones being Primaris "reinforcements".


Depends on the supply line as well - how much have they got of the new suits and how quickly can they get them to cut off areas - Quite a few Realmgates have been blown up.

I am also interested to see what happens to all the Dark Elves and Daughters of Khaine in the Realm Of Azyr - is Sigmar going to ccarry out another purge?


Not against the Daughters. He's got some parlay going on with Morathi after she took the city.
   
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Vihti, Finland

 Mr Morden wrote:

I am also interested to see what happens to all the Dark Elves and Daughters of Khaine in the Realm Of Azyr - is Sigmar going to ccarry out another purge?


Well there is no "Dark Elves". Just Elves (Aelfs). And not everyone is blood offering fanatic or smug wizard.
   
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Charing Cold One Knight





Sotahullu wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

I am also interested to see what happens to all the Dark Elves and Daughters of Khaine in the Realm Of Azyr - is Sigmar going to ccarry out another purge?


Well there is no "Dark Elves". Just Elves (Aelfs). And not everyone is blood offering fanatic or smug wizard.


I have to admit that with all that's happened in Broken Realms I almost get the feeling we'll see Dark Elves in some form or another return as a unified whole.

-Primary Armies -
Craftworlds | Dark Angels | Death Guard | Sisters of Battle | Chaos Knights | Flesh-Eater Courts | Idoneth Deepkin

- Secondary Armies -
Drukhari | Necrons || Tyranids | Daughters of Khaine | Blades of Khorne | Stormcast Eternals
 
   
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This is just so random considering how recent Stormcast are. New sculpts look cool for what it's worth, but I have no desire to get them.

Necrons
Imperial Knights
Orcs and Goblins
Tomb Kings
Wood Elves 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut



Canada

 ScarletRose wrote:
The spears aren't bad, not very hyped about the heavier armored lion chest ones.

I'd be happy to trade any male stormcast models for female ones to save some folks on here from catching cooties



I may have need of your services if they ever make new IG models.
   
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Mighty Vampire Count






UK

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 Grimskul wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
So what are Stormcast in old armour supposed to be now? The ones Sigmar doesn't like well enough to give them a respawn suit?


I guess you have to consider them as the ones that are effectively cut off from Azyr and haven't been granted the new suits yet. Effectively the firstborn equivalent for Stormcast and the new ones being Primaris "reinforcements".


Depends on the supply line as well - how much have they got of the new suits and how quickly can they get them to cut off areas - Quite a few Realmgates have been blown up.

I am also interested to see what happens to all the Dark Elves and Daughters of Khaine in the Realm Of Azyr - is Sigmar going to ccarry out another purge?


Not against the Daughters. He's got some parlay going on with Morathi after she took the city.


Ahh I missed that - sensible - only just got the 3rd book - should do the same with Neferata whilst Nagash is out of the picture

Well there is no "Dark Elves". Just Elves (Aelfs). And not everyone is blood offering fanatic or smug wizard.


No and some did side with Sigmar (or against Morathi) - but was not sure if Sigmar would acknowledge that

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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction 
   
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 Eldarsif wrote:
Sotahullu wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

I am also interested to see what happens to all the Dark Elves and Daughters of Khaine in the Realm Of Azyr - is Sigmar going to ccarry out another purge?


Well there is no "Dark Elves". Just Elves (Aelfs). And not everyone is blood offering fanatic or smug wizard.


I have to admit that with all that's happened in Broken Realms I almost get the feeling we'll see Dark Elves in some form or another return as a unified whole.


God i hope not. The Daughters are actually interesting rather than the whole "lol look how evil we are" dark elves.
   
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 RaptorusRex wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Those stormcast do look good. I hope they don't make them 50% women, though.


Women are half the species.


TBF that percentage drops dramatically when you make it "humanities greatest (wartime) heroes".
   
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Mighty Vampire Count






UK

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
 Eldarsif wrote:
Sotahullu wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

I am also interested to see what happens to all the Dark Elves and Daughters of Khaine in the Realm Of Azyr - is Sigmar going to ccarry out another purge?


Well there is no "Dark Elves". Just Elves (Aelfs). And not everyone is blood offering fanatic or smug wizard.


I have to admit that with all that's happened in Broken Realms I almost get the feeling we'll see Dark Elves in some form or another return as a unified whole.


God i hope not. The Daughters are actually interesting rather than the whole "lol look how evil we are" dark elves.


Agreed - the Aleves seems to be pretty split about the whole thing - hoping to get some good stories - sad no tie in novels.

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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction 
   
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Cronch wrote:
Representation for the sake of representation is a concept I have yet to understand

I agree! I am so sick of all this pointless male representation in gaming. Everyone knows only nerds play tabletop, so why all the male bodies in plastic form?


Chicken - Egg problem.

Given how insecure neckbeards get over more female representation in miniatures shows that GW has been catering to their safe space for far too long. Time for a change.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
God i hope not. The Daughters are actually interesting rather than the whole "lol look how evil we are" dark elves.


I mean, Dark Elves weren't 'evil' the way Chaos was 'evil'. They were mostly portrayed in a very franderized fashion which made them look like comical villains, instead of the more honest, unvarnished face of a race known for their bloated superiority complex.

 Darkseid wrote:
Given how insecure neckbeards get over more female representation in miniatures shows that GW has been catering to their safe space for far too long. Time for a change.


We went from bad to worse to mandatory corporate correctional hours for nerds.

Do we need those Twitter takes here? Dakka's supposed to be a classier gutter.

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