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I honestly like the teaser at the end about the fimirs I mean let's say "greenskins"

It really sounds like an AoS nursery rhyme.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Ordana wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Love that they are using the Total War soundtrack.

Total War AOS would be rather awesome

I have a tiny bit of hope that they do Total War AoS after they are done with DLC for Total Warhammer 3.

Let me destroy that hope for you: Frontier Development (developers of Elite: Dangerous) have the exclusive license to non-mobile Age of Sigmar RTS games.

Im glad.

I think AOS would just not lend itself as a total war game. WHTW3 is going to be a stretch as it is. Less of a total war game and more of an arcade style RTS.

Rome TW remastered has really brought back what I liked about OG TW games. Manoeuvring and planning over microing.
Hero/monster hammer doom stacking is one of the least appealing things of WHTW2 as a total war game. Flanking and manoeuvring is irrelevant when you got mamoths smashing up against dragons lol.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 zend wrote:
I really like that Stormcast lady as is, but I’m quite happy to have found the base for my Sisters of Battle Saint. I don’t like Celestine’s robo wings and I was struggling to find feathered wings that could fit her.

Funny, I'll be replacing the feathered wings with mechanical ones on mine.

 CMLR wrote:
They might, literally half of the new Thunder Force Armoured Sigmarines have boobplate armor, look closely: they are the golden and black coloured ones.

I mean, you don't have to look for boobplate. The female Stormcasts have noticeably different body proportions.

Different strokes for different folk! I love the Celestine piece that Karl Kopinski did back in like 3rd edition and I’m not having my Saints any other way

Also why is there pushback on female Stormcast? I understand not liking the first couple they did because the helmetless head sculpts were atrocious, but these look fine.

 zend wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 zend wrote:
I really like that Stormcast lady as is, but I’m quite happy to have found the base for my Sisters of Battle Saint. I don’t like Celestine’s robo wings and I was struggling to find feathered wings that could fit her.

Funny, I'll be replacing the feathered wings with mechanical ones on mine.

 CMLR wrote:
They might, literally half of the new Thunder Force Armoured Sigmarines have boobplate armor, look closely: they are the golden and black coloured ones.

I mean, you don't have to look for boobplate. The female Stormcasts have noticeably different body proportions.

Different strokes for different folk! I love the Celestine piece that Karl Kopinski did back in like 3rd edition and I’m not having my Saints any other way

Also why is there pushback on female Stormcast? I understand not liking the first couple they did because the helmetless head sculpts were atrocious, but these look fine.

That is the way of the universe. People complained about the original AoS being all male. Some female models appear, people complain about that. It’s the natural way of things - someone is always unhappy with what GW does. I think the whole week was Warhammer Snoozefest 21. But I will still likely pick up AoS 3.0. I’m interested, but hardly excited by it.

 Ordana wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Love that they are using the Total War soundtrack.

Total War AOS would be rather awesome

I have a tiny bit of hope that they do Total War AoS after they are done with DLC for Total Warhammer 3.

There won't be won't. AoS RTS is already on the making by Frontier.


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 ImAGeek wrote:

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Could be Greywater Fastness - fits the description and there are both Skaven and angry malvolent Sylvaneth nearby

From the stream they said it’s set in Ghur.

Ghur has more biomes than just deserts and badlands.

 CMLR wrote:

 Ordana wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Love that they are using the Total War soundtrack.

Total War AOS would be rather awesome

I have a tiny bit of hope that they do Total War AoS after they are done with DLC for Total Warhammer 3.

There won't be won't. AoS RTS is already on the making by Frontier.


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 ImAGeek wrote:

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Could be Greywater Fastness - fits the description and there are both Skaven and angry malvolent Sylvaneth nearby

From the stream they said it’s set in Ghur.

Ghur has more biomes than just deserts and badlands.

Sure, but Greywater Fastness isn’t in Ghur...

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
They might, literally half of the new Thunder Force Armoured Sigmarines have boobplate armor, look closely: they are the golden and black coloured ones.

I mean, you don't have to look for boobplate. The female Stormcasts have noticeably different body proportions.

From the four show, no, they do not, and besides, there is no "gender neutral" armor: either you have boob armor or XBOXHUEGPECS armor.


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 ImAGeek wrote:

 CMLR wrote:


From the stream they said it’s set in Ghur.

Ghur has more biomes than just deserts and badlands.

Sure, but Greywater Fastness isn’t in Ghur...

But the comment I was replying to did?

 CMLR wrote:
From the four show, no, they do not

The male SC are significantly bulkier. I'm not sure how that's debatable, given the visual evidence.

 ImAGeek wrote:
But the comment I was replying to did?

Then why are you quoting me?

 zend wrote:


Different strokes for different folk! I love the Celestine piece that Karl Kopinski did back in like 3rd edition and I’m not having my Saints any other way

Also why is there pushback on female Stormcast? I understand not liking the first couple they did because the helmetless head sculpts were atrocious, but these look fine.

I liked that they stablished that there were females since the start, but didn't minded that all the models were male; my problem is the fact that they have boob armor and how do they look alongside the epic pecs armor of the male ones.

 CMLR wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
But the comment I was replying to did?

Then why are you quoting me?

 zend wrote:


Different strokes for different folk! I love the Celestine piece that Karl Kopinski did back in like 3rd edition and I’m not having my Saints any other way

Also why is there pushback on female Stormcast? I understand not liking the first couple they did because the helmetless head sculpts were atrocious, but these look fine.

I liked that they stablished that there were females since the start, but didn't minded that all the models were male; my problem is the fact that they have boob armor and how do they look alongside the epic pecs armor of the male ones.

Mate, you quoted me first. What is going on.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
From the four show, no, they do not

The male SC are significantly bulkier. I'm not sure how that's debatable, given the visual evidence.

Because the visual evidence is exactly the chest piece. The piece that contains the boob armor. The legs are exactly the same.

Stormcasts have been out for HOW long and they're already getting a Primaris treatment?

 zend wrote:

Also why is there pushback on female Stormcast? I understand not liking the first couple they did because the helmetless head sculpts were atrocious, but these look fine.

It's likely not female stormcast in particular, but the influx of female models in Warhammer in general. The topic is a difficult one to discuss for several reasons (which you are likely aware of), but I'll give you my honest take.

Women in the context of combat are inherently unintuitive to me. Yes, Warhammer and AoS are super high fantasy and it's not that female warriors are implausible within the setting, but the ratio is still something to consider. Making 2 out of 10 warriors female sounds about right to me, but even that should be optional.
In my mind, Warhammer is still a derivate of our medieval past, so seeing women participate in warfare to a higher degree than that just doesn't work for me. It's my personal perspective and a biased one at that, but it's not something I can just ignore.

Secondly, there are clear indications that this trend is, at least to some degree, politically motivated. Representation for the sake of representation is a concept I have yet to understand – maybe nobody ever properly explained it to me – and in my case it happens to change whatever I enjoy to its detriment.

Thirdly, this particular issue tends to be discussed with moral grandstanding, self-righteousness and outright unwillingness to consider the other side of the argument. I acknowledge that many people are happy with more female miniatures and I'm not saying that I am right or they are wrong – it's a matter of taste. Being branded as someone who hates women will make me very angry, though, which is why I tend to respond in kind whenever I'm confronted with this accusation. Now, take all of this and consider that it's mostly happening in online spaces where discussion tends to ignore normal conventions anyway, and it's suddenly very clear why discussions are often unneccessarily charged.

Does anyone actually think GW made female Stormcasts with noticeably different proportions and then ditched that idea for the new, improved take? Because unisex Cadians are so popular I guess?

So they have given Stormcasts soulstounes to protect them from Slaanesh (or whoever). I suppose version 4 of AOS and version 10 of 40k will just be the same game? I mean you could use your fantasy models in Rogue Trader, so I guess it comes full circle

 BertBert wrote:

 zend wrote:

Also why is there pushback on female Stormcast? I understand not liking the first couple they did because the helmetless head sculpts were atrocious, but these look fine.

It's likely not female stormcast in particular, but the influx of female models in Warhammer in general. The topic is a difficult one to discuss for several reasons (which you are likely aware of), but I'll give you my honest take.

Women in the context of combat are inherently unintuitive to me. Yes, Warhammer and AoS are super high fantasy and it's not that female warriors are implausible within the setting, but the ratio is still something to consider. Making 2 out of 10 warriors female sounds about right to me, but even that should be optional.
In my mind, Warhammer is still a derivate of our medieval past, so seeing women participate in warfare to a higher degree than that just doesn't work for me. It's my personal perspective and a biased one at that, but it's not something I can just ignore.

Secondly, there are clear indications that this trend is, at least to some degree, politically motivated. Representation for the sake of representation is a concept I have yet to understand – maybe nobody ever properly explained it to me – and in my case it happens to change whatever I enjoy to its detriment.

Thirdly, this particular issue tends to be discussed with moral grandstanding, self-righteousness and outright unwillingness to consider the other side of the argument. I acknowledge that many people are happy with more female miniatures and I'm not saying that I am right or they are wrong – it's a matter of taste. Being branded as someone who hates women will make me very angry, though, which is why I tend to respond in kind whenever I'm confronted with this accusation. Now, take all of this and consider that it's mostly happening in online spaces where discussion tends to ignore normal conventions anyway, and it's suddenly very clear why discussions are often unneccessarily charged.

That’s got to be the most reasonable answer to a question, I’ve seen on the internet for years. I disagree with half of what you’ve said, but utterly respect the way you’ve expressed it.

 His Master's Voice wrote:


Does anyone actually think GW made female Stormcasts with noticeably different proportions and then ditched that idea for the new, improved take? Because unisex Cadians are so popular I guess?

Ironically the easiest way to tell the difference is the chest, men have cleavage moulded into the armor. Women don't.

The female Stormcast do have noticeably different proportions.

 ImAGeek wrote:
The female Stormcast do have noticeably different proportions.

Definitely. No question.

Female stromcast models were already slimmer and very slightly shorter than the male ones.

Having improved the overall proportions with these new SCE I think the difference is more visible.

The females they have shown are slimmer overall - their legs are thinner for one thing.

 Souleater wrote:
Female stromcast models were already slimmer and very slightly shorter than the male ones.

Having improved the overall proportions with these new SCE I think the difference is more visible.

The females they have shown are slimmer overall - their legs are thinner for one thing.

The helmets are also a little slimmer and softer.

Honestly, I'm very happy with the new stormcast. I've always preferred the thinner armor, which is why I liked the Vanguard(?) models. But even then, I never got any since the paper thin cloaks they all wore never looked right. But these guys and gals are something I'll keep an eye on.

Not big on the big guy though.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
The female Stormcast do have noticeably different proportions.

Definitely. No question.

Yes, the chest piece.

 Souleater wrote:
Female stromcast models were already slimmer and very slightly shorter than the male ones.

Having improved the overall proportions with these new SCE I think the difference is more visible.

The females they have shown are slimmer overall - their legs are thinner for one thing.

For the few female exclusive models. Multi-part kits, like this will be, will have shared legs for everyone.

Well, that's unexpected - I quite like 'em. The spear chappies that is.

The changes from the previous types of Stormcast are all pretty small individually but in aggregate it makes for a quite substantial improvement to my eye - these look more like "heroic scale" versions of those skinny-baroque Blanche concept pieces than the lumbering chonky "Land Marine" versions of yore.

I'll be interested to see if there are some character models and alternate unit types with the same basic style of armour.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:

grahamdbailey wrote:
Bog, míre & fen all mentioned. Fimir are returning to AoS!

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*hpwever* as they say new "breed" of evil I somewhat suspect skaven. Which to those who love skaven, great. I'll buy some of those storm casts off you

I mean, Fimir are kind of notorious/infamous for their old fluff about how they breed and reproduce....

ERJAK wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
So glad we got an unnecessary new edition with yet more sigmarines instead of something like Epic or BFG…

The new edition is VERY necessary. Sigmar is pretty garbage at the moment.

Sigmar is pretty awesome at the moment, I think its generally in a better place than 40k is. Not sure why you would think otherwise.

Because if you play competitively almost every viable army in the game is shooting based now (even DoK and Slaanesh function best as pure shooting armies.) And 3 factions are significantly more powerful than the rest of a the field to a degree that make current drukari blush.

It has a lower floor than 40k does so it's generally better for casual and friendly play but competitively it's a shadow of what it was a year to a year and a half ago.

Representation for the sake of representation is a concept I have yet to understand

I agree! I am so sick of all this pointless male representation in gaming. Everyone knows only nerds play tabletop, so why all the male bodies in plastic form?

As to "primaris" stormcast, I thought we already did that with Sacrosanct, being better in every way than the basic warrior chamber stormcast?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stormcasts have been out for HOW long and they're already getting a Primaris treatment?

More of a redesign, they are basically just giving them better armor? Thats about it. Nothing really 'primaris' about it. They are having issues return to Azyr. Thats really it? Not really a 'primaris' comparision here, people need to stop with the comparisons its just a new chamber.

I think its pretty obvious the new starter set is stormcast vs Daemon Squirrels

Cronch wrote:

Representation for the sake of representation is a concept I have yet to understand

I agree! I am so sick of all this pointless male representation in gaming. Everyone knows only nerds play tabletop, so why all the male bodies in plastic form?

Hard agree. It's ridiculous.