Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...

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**Alpharius**

Flachzange wrote:
Alpharius wrote:

And no idea about The Long Games at Carcharias story in VICTORIES OF THE SPACE MARINES, but I guess I'm going to go pick that up now!

Not that good a book in my world. I was pretty disappointed. By the book overall, not said story.

I hadn't heard good things about the book in general, and now this...

Any chance you could tell me what the The Long Games at Carcharias is about, in a spoiler free fashion, just in case?

**TBD**

reds8n wrote:
Promethean Sun will be on sale from 9am (UK local time) tomorrow.

odds on the servers crashing at 9:01 then ?

..only 3000 copies eh ? Best be swift *readies debit card*

It would be typically GW if the 3000 limit applies to the hardback copies, and there will be a softback copy later... hopefully, because I am a fan of both the Salamanders & Nick Kyme's writing about them.

Not being able to get this because it is only availably online for a couple of days (probably) would be disappointing. Why would they limit it like that in the first place

**Kanluwen**

TBD wrote:
reds8n wrote:
Promethean Sun will be on sale from 9am (UK local time) tomorrow.

odds on the servers crashing at 9:01 then ?

..only 3000 copies eh ? Best be swift *readies debit card*

It would be typically GW if the 3000 limit applies to the hardback copies, and there will be a softback copy later... hopefully, because I am a fan of both the Salamanders & Nick Kyme's writing about them.

When they do these limited runs, there's only one copy type available.

They don't, however, produce 'limited runs' of things like the hardback copies of the Gaunt's Ghost novels.

Not being able to get this because it is only available online for a couple of days (probably) would be disappointing. Why would they limit it like that in the first place

Because they're meant to be 'something special'. They usually don't connect directly to the story in any meaningful fashion where you're screwed if you miss it.

And I doubt it will "only be available online for a couple of days". They pulled the Dark Elf novella from sale before they ran out.

**Alpharius**

I hope you're right Kan, because as a Pre-Heresy fan, I really want a copy of this...

I'll be trying to buy it tomorrow morning, as soon as I wake up!

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:I hope you're right Kan, because as a Pre-Heresy fan, I really want a copy of this...

I'll be trying to buy it tomorrow morning, as soon as I wake up!

You might get lucky then and the website crashes at 3am our time(which is when they should be opening) and Black Library IT doesn't get it running until you wake up?

Maybe you should send them an email and see if you can give them your details to preorder it today?

**TBD**

Kanluwen wrote:Because they're meant to be 'something special'. They usually don't connect directly to the story in any meaningful fashion where you're screwed if you miss it.

And I doubt it will "only be available online for a couple of days". They pulled the Dark Elf novella from sale before they ran out.

I understand what their intention is, but it remains a rather sub-optimal way to go about.

Making it available without limit = more people happy & more $$$ for Black Library. Everybody wins. Alternatively making 3000 "limited" copies with a special feature and unlimited copies without, or only selling it for x period of time would be better options also.

It sounds like it will only take an hour or less before they sell out then? In that case I'm not sure I'll even bother trying to get the book ordered through my local GW (right about after they open up). If they are making it that hard then F them and their book.

And why would they pull an item before they run out

**Kanluwen**

TBD wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:Because they're meant to be 'something special'. They usually don't connect directly to the story in any meaningful fashion where you're screwed if you miss it.

And I doubt it will "only be available online for a couple of days". They pulled the Dark Elf novella from sale before they ran out.

I understand what their intention is, but it remains a rather sub-optimal way to go about.

Making it available without limit = more people happy & more $$$ for Black Library. Everybody wins. Alternatively making 3000 "limited" copies with a special feature and unlimited copies without, or only selling it for x period of time would be better options also.

Making 3000 "limited" copies that they sell for 5-6 months is just about right in terms of how long they last.

In some cases, they last far shorter, in some far longer. There's no real predictability.

It sounds like it will only take an hour or less before they sell out then? In that case I'm not sure I'll even bother trying to get the book ordered through my local GW (right about after they open up). If they are making it that hard then F them and their book.

I don't know about "an hour or less before they sell out".
The BL Live! 2011 Chapbook is limited to 750 copies and has been up for a month or so.
It hasn't sold out yet, and it includes a tie-in story to Graham McNeill's pretty heavily anticipated High Elf novel and the absurdly anticipated book about Inquisitor Czevak.

And why would they pull an item before they run out

Because it was a "limited run". It might get put back up for sale on the website, but more likely they'll change it so that it will be available at Games Days where you can flip through it and make your decision there if you want it or not.

**reds8n**

.. I suspect that this will sell ve quickly indeed.

Whilst we won't see it again in this format -- hardback, signed and numbered, I would not be at all surprised if, some time in the future, we do get the tale reprinted in some fashion or other, say in an anthology or the like.

**Alpharius**

Anyone know the price for this thing?

**xowainx**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Exclusive-Products/Collectors-Editions/promethean-sun.html

£30.

**BrookM**

I am frantically refreshing the BL page right now, the pressure is killing me.

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Pfffft. €40 for a novella!

**reds8n**

It's kind of frozen for me right now... hear those servers squeal !

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2 years before any reprint BTW.

**xowainx**

It's taken me eight minutes to get to payment.. Should have thought ahead though, as a password reset didn't help :$

**BrookM**

Waiting for the site to reload again. Might as well have breakfast first and try again later.

**reds8n**

.. waiting to pay now.

.. might have to edit/delete my basket somewhat, I'm thinking £180;00 is a bit steep even for me.

**Lorizael**

Usefully there's a little stock number in the top right of the page so you can see how many are left. Currently 2806...

**xowainx**

I think i've ordered one as i've got a confirmation screen, but I haven't got a confirmation e-mail and it doesn't show up in my order history on Black Library.. Argh.

**BrookM**

Maybe it's just me, but mine costs €30 all of the sudden. Not that I'm complaining!

edit.

Back to €40 and throw in another €24 for shipping.. Damn it, the bastards.

**reds8n**

.why was I worried ?

got my confirmation email too... followed by the Bl email advertising the thing seconds later.

certainly looks nice in the previews. Well the art does anyway, I'll reserve judgement on the faux salamander skin until it is, so to speak, in hand.

**xowainx**

No confirmation e-mail still, so I phoned them (PANIC PANIC PANIC PANIC) and they said it should be fine as long as i've got the confirmation number and to call back in the afternoon if i've not heard anything. Did get the promo e-mail though, phew!

**BrookM**

Just got my confirmation and official announcement mail as well. I'm sure this is well worth reading, just need to think of a way to explain it to the other half.

**reds8n**

so it's 10;10 and...

"Stock:1840"

.. perhaps Bl should invest in a large scale bakery and icing machine as well.

**BrookM**

I'm guessing they'll end this day with a round of champagne and little slices of fancy cheese.

**reds8n**

Every Friday is like that in the UK.

It is poets day after all.

**BrookM**

gak, I need to move countries some day.

When is the book going to ship by the way?

**reds8n**

... don't judge us all by the London Underground

Don't think they've given an exact date, but past experience with these has seen them pushed out the door sharpish, so maybe in a week or so I think/hope.

**BrookM**

Oh dear, I really do need to start covering my tracks more thoroughly.

Well, the sooner the better, lest I get stabbed for squandering money on things that aren't material.

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gak, they're down to 1095 copies as of right now.

**reds8n**

Still, we were there first so we're cooler

..... right ?

in other BL news

In you needed a reason to check out the, rather spiffing, Night Lords series of books....

http://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/first-claw-by-shane-cook/

pretty frickin' sweet indeed.

**Alpharius**

So tempted...

But, as noted:

Black Library wrote:

About the book

This lavish, A5 hardback novella wrapped in faux salamander skin features an exclusive story that will not be printed anywhere else for at least two years. Only three thousand copies of this collectors’ edition novella will ever be printed – order your copy early to avoid disappointment.

Can I wait?

Answer - unknown!

Argh!

That's a lot of money though, for a novella...

Update!

NO PURCHASE for me.

Seriously?

$50 for the book, and $36 for shipping?

WTF?

NO WAY it costs that much to send a freakin' pamphlet to me here in the USA from the UK.

Is this some sort of new Royal Wedding Tax for the colonies?

Unless some kind soul in the UK could buy this for me and then mail it to me for a reasonable charge, this is a no go for me - and that makes me a Sad Panda!

**ironicsilence**

Due the massive demand for this title we have temporarily removed it from sale to ensure that we have enough stock to satisfy all existing orders. We will repost any remaining stock at 12.00 UK local time on Monday 18 April.