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2016/06/16 22:19:22
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Jon may be a Targaryen bastard, but he won't ride a dragon since;
a) Martin has said that Dany will have her riders sorted out before the end on book 6. Martin has already confirmed that Dany will not make it to Westeros until book 7. Outside of book 6's timeline encompassing 2+ years of storyline time, there's simply no way that Jon can make it to Essos, earn Dany + a dragon's trust by then.
(especially since in the books, he still has to rally the North and beat the ever living gak out of the Bolton's!)
b) He is Azor Azhi. He gets Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes.
If you recall the history/legend of Lightbringer from early on in book 2, then it's pretty clear that Jon is destined to wield that power.
Going off of the books especially, my own predictions for the other two dragon riders are;
1. Tyrion Lannister.
We had what, 2 or 3 entire focus chapters of him and his 'dragon dreams' from when was a little boy?
Viserion is golden scaled in colour. House Lannister's sigil is of course, a golden lion on a red field.
In the books especially, he's developing a serious amount of plot armour. He should have died at least half a dozen times over by now, and of course, he'll end up having his Grey Scale 'miraculously' cured!
2. Jorah Mormont.
He has long been likened to an 'older brother/Rhaeghar' type character who Dany has leaned on pretty much the entire story thus far. When she banishes him, it all starts going hilariously downhill for her, as he's the only one who's ever truly been her steady rock.
Raeghal is green in colour. House Mormont's sigil is a black bear on a green field.
In both the show and the books, his plot armour is becoming even more impregnable than Tyrion's! Considering how he's constantly being nothing but a brooding, pita slave, you have to figure that there's a lot more to his plot arc than simply "get Tyrion to Dany - die".
2016/06/16 22:45:56
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
He doesn't. Nor does Mormont if I remember correctly, Griff does.
Spoiler:
He does, iirc, it's on his foot/ankle area & slowly spreading, but he's been keeping it secret for obvious reasons.
When the party was passing under The Bridge of Dream and are attacked, Tyrion shoulders into one of the Stone Men to save Young Griff. The stone man grabs onto Tyrion and they both fall into the river, where the sinking stone man tried to pull Tyrion under with him, before Griff pulls him out of the water.
2016/06/16 23:22:27
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
I really don't recall the books ever confirming that. Do you know the source? The wiki doesn't list him as a victim, so I really doubt it. Its probably just your interpretation, surely.
2016/06/17 02:52:19
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: I really don't recall the books ever confirming that. Do you know the source? The wiki doesn't list him as a victim, so I really doubt it. Its probably just your interpretation, surely.
I don't recall the 5th book as readily as the others, since it was painful as feth trying to even trudge through that clusterfethed mess of needless plot bloat... However, towards the end of the book;
Spoiler:
Tyrion is still routinely pricking his toes after he, Penny & Jorah are bought and preform their mummer's show on a nightly basis, and he ends up realising that he no longer feels any pain on his one foot when he pricks a couple of his toes, which is of course, the main sign that he's become infected.
But then, I still hold to the theory that;
Spoiler:
Jamie & Cersi are Lannister bastards, as revealed by Jamie's aunt in a Feast for Crows during the siege of Riverrun, which would then confirm that Jamie is indeed almost certainly her Valonqar, and not Tyrion as she has always assumed.
2016/06/17 10:13:34
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
It's been a while since I read that book too, but I don't remember getting the impression of Tyrion being infected. I'd have to have a look at it again I guess.
The Lannisters thing:
Spoiler:
I believe too many people are reading too much into that statement by Aunt Lannister about Aerys taking some extra liberties during Tywin's wedding. Perhaps it's because I absolutely loathe the "Targaryens everywhere" theories. The whole R+L=J, which actually seems plausible and has been hinted at throughout the books, is where I draw my line.
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2016/06/17 10:53:45
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Be interesting to see what happens to Melisande in the show - I think she is still just moping around at Castle Black?
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Mr Morden wrote: Be interesting to see what happens to Melisande in the show - I think she is still just moping around at Castle Black?
Nope, she's following Jon Snow around. Remember in the previews for next week he's asking her no to revive him again should he die in the upcoming battle.
Mr Morden wrote: Be interesting to see what happens to Melisande in the show - I think she is still just moping around at Castle Black?
Nope, she's following Jon Snow around. Remember in the previews for next week he's asking her no to revive him again should he die in the upcoming battle.
Yeah, that was one of the bigger scenes from the previews for this week's episode.
I don't think her services will be needed, but it does serve to up the tension/drama ahead of Sunday!
2016/06/17 12:28:22
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
and hoping that Davos doesn't find the charred remains of a certain girl presumably.
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2016/06/17 12:31:08
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2016/06/17 12:44:09
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
reds8n wrote: and hoping that Davos doesn't find the charred remains of a certain girl presumably.
I think he'll find that and the remains of that little stag he sculpted for her.
Seems likely - her story might be about done then?
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2016/06/17 17:44:47
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Korinov wrote: I predict "Yara" and Daenerys going full lesbian in half an episode. Meanwhile St. Tyrion tells dick jokes to Theon.
Okay, seriously don't read this if you don't want what could be a MASSIVE spoiler...
Spoiler:
Spoiler rumors making the rounds have claimed that Tyrion will have his throat slit by a Faceless wearing Shae's face, and his last scene will be him laying on the ground & bleeding to death.
Of course, it's only a rumor...
2016/06/17 18:55:24
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Alpharius wrote: Is this like a 'GW Redshirt told me' type of rumor?
Because it kind of sounds like one...
Putting him on the tracker...
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2016/06/17 19:01:30
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Alpharius wrote: Is this like a 'GW Redshirt told me' type of rumor?
Because it kind of sounds like one...
It's been making the rounds on places like the IMDB & A Wiki of Ice and Fire forums, among other places such as 4chan.
I really hope it's just complete junk, because it has boring rehash written all over it.
Spoiler:
Not to mention, it'll get to the point that death is almost meaningless for 'main' characters, since the rumor mentions that it happens right after Tyrion meets with Kinvara, who'll no doubt then bring him back to life...
Because we haven't yet had enough resurrections apparently!
Alpharius wrote: Is this like a 'GW Redshirt told me' type of rumor?
Because it kind of sounds like one...
Putting her on the tracker...
Fixed that for you!
I don't actually believe this 'rumor', but just figured I'd post it for those who enjoy spoilers, and also a good laugh! For me it's right up there with the fan theories such as "Tyrion is really a bastard Targaryen" and other made-up BS.
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2016/06/17 19:04:34
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Alpharius wrote: I think you might want to take a break from all of those sites - especially 4chan - at least for the next week and 2 days, give or take!
As one of my characters would say "Better to be unspoiled and not see it coming."
Though in all honesty i think sundays episode is going to be the best of the season. I love this season, but I hate the lazy writing.
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2016/06/17 21:04:54
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 6 - The Discussion! [SPOILERS]
Korinov wrote: I predict "Yara" and Daenerys going full lesbian in half an episode.
Well it would not hurt the ratings...................I just hope we don't waste too much time on the siege so Dany can actually get on with stuff.
Lets get the show on the road and get to burning some white walkers - Dragon Stylee
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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