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 Alpharius wrote:
Two 'abbreviated' season left.

Not sure how many episodes that means for Seasons 7 and 8, but maybe...6 each?

Certainly no less than 5 each, and hopefully more!

7 episode each for 2 more seasons is rumor

The Mormonts are deservedly on the rise, being valued key support for the two main endgame players for the Iron Throne. She is just a kid and hasn't married yet and time is on her side. She could well be queen of Westeros one day, got the talent and the connexions.

Great character and well played.

Her support for the Starks is obvious but who is the other candidate you are thinking of as they have not allied with Dany as far as I can see unless Jorah pops up to say hi?

Dany is currently the most likely winner given her overwhelming military power, wide ranging alliance (Tyrell's, Ironborn and Dorne? plus the man who is likely to be the surviving Lanister heir as Hand). But things can and do change....

I thought it was interesting that the Red Priestess in Meerem was not in the episode and we have no interactions between her and Dany yet.

I can see a political marriage between her and Jon now being a good endgame, otherwise limited powerful candidates - guess Jamie is also possible depending on what happens with him and Cersei.

 Mr Morden wrote:

The Mormonts are deservedly on the rise, being valued key support for the two main endgame players for the Iron Throne. She is just a kid and hasn't married yet and time is on her side. She could well be queen of Westeros one day, got the talent and the connexions.

Great character and well played.

Her support for the Starks is obvious but who is the other candidate you are thinking of as they have not allied with Dany as far as I can see unless Jorah pops up to say hi?

The two endgame players on the white hat (or closest to white hat) side are Dany and Jon. Kid Mormont could marry Jon later, it would make sense for him to marry into Dorne, but Jon seems to want secession not the Iron Throne.
Jon is a winner because he may well keep the north as a separate state, especially as he is one of the heads of the dragon and the fact that one of the dragons is white was a clue from the start. He also outranks Dany on the succession as the Targaryens if rumours of the secret wedding are true. Jon's chances of keeping the title King In the North are very good.

Also a war between Dany and Jon will be wasteful allowing for what is coming and unlikely allowing for who counsells the two leaders. Tyrion will be remembered fondly by Jon, and he also took the warning of white walkers seriously the first time. The only one who did.

A contest of succession between Jon and Dany is very possible anyway because it is desperately needed as filler now. We have two books to go but only very little political story to tell. ~for a Tv series the politidcs and dialogue not the battles are the focus, with exception of episode 9 of each season most battles are offscreen or token content is shown. As the endgame approaches we are left with a war story, and very few character arcs as most political plotlines have solidified.

 Mr Morden wrote:

Dany is currently the most likely winner given her overwhelming military power, wide ranging alliance (Tyrell's, Ironborn and Dorne? plus the man who is likely to be the surviving Lanister heir as Hand). But things can and do change....

This is likely, and is a reason why there will have to be new plot twists to blindside this. Cersei hasn't a chance five minutes after black Targaryen sails appear over the horizon at Kings Landing. She is not prepared for what is coming and can do nothing about it even if she could. Arya might even get to her first. Westeros is running out of the psychos that make the shows plot magic, Cersei is doomed, Ramsey and Joffrey dead, the Sand Snakes are tamed, we think; the only wildcard left is Euron Greyjoy and he will have to therefore be given a very large spotlight as one of the two endgame nemesis as an alternate antagonist story arc to the undead..

 Mr Morden wrote:

I thought it was interesting that the Red Priestess in Meerem was not in the episode and we have no interactions between her and Dany yet.

She will have a walk on part to heal Jorah Mormont and then depart offscreen. Jorah will need more showtime and cant be left to drift offscript. He will head west Daario will get some airtime in this before he too departs offscreen, because the story will follow Jorah west. When we find the next plot obstacle to Dany to emerge ( likely Euron) then Daario might abandon Mereen and come to help her and thus stay in the series. The bay is a concluded story arc though.
Any portion of the Rhllor-Dany plot arc needed in Westeros will be provided by Melisandre or Thoros as a plot convergence, there is no need to add another character when there are established characters waiting to be used.

 Mr Morden wrote:

I can see a political marriage between her and Jon now being a good endgame, otherwise limited powerful candidates - guess Jamie is also possible depending on what happens with him and Cersei.

Dany can marry Jon even if their parentage is fully revealed. They are Targaryens. However Dany is barren and she knows this. Jon, possibly Tyrion is her heir and Dany must marry for immediate politicalgain, Jon must marry to continue the Targaryen royal dynasty. It ends if they marry each other.
Jon is reasonable enough to ask Sansa to remarry/confirm marriage to Tyrion. Sansa is not a little girl anymore and she will understand, when told, that Tyrion has proven his love amnd respect for her by not bedding her. Besides it is her duty as a house daughter to make alliance. This will bind the Lannisters and Starks at a pivotal time, remove the stigma of Ramsery from her by reaffirming her first marriage, and release either Tyrion of Jaime to return to Casterly Rock as Lord and raise armies to help stop the white walkers. All this can happen after Cersei is dealt with.
Dany might end up marrying Jaime, it would work and I think he would agree to it. Again after Cersei is dealt with. There aren't any other eligible men left.

All these things however are very clear cut, so it would make sense plotwise if the neat threads to tie together are severed by trajedy of one kind or another. One of the above will meet a senseless death I think, as all are too well advised to just hack at each other on a whim.
Euron will be behind that somewhere, Cersei never had the guile. Though it must be said Qyburn will try to pull off another stunt, after all Cerseis tour de force coup is his doing not hers, Cersei was never one for successful plots. In reality Qyburn is on the Iron Throne because he is Cersei's hand, can run rings around he mentally and is totally essential to keep her on it.
How will he act? Avoid a confrontation he knows he hasn't any chance of winning and hire assassins. You can only kill one of the thee main character in the last season or the show will jump the shark. But it is likely that Jon tyrion or Dany will meet an untimely death to screw everythign up and either Qyburn or Euron will be behind it.
The only alternative is to turn the show just into a war story between the dragon faction and the undead faction, and I dont think you can drag that out through too many episodes, without a character plot to back it up.

 Orlanth wrote:
Also a war between Dany and Jon will be wasteful allowing for what is coming and unlikely allowing for who counsells the two leaders. Tyrion will be remembered fondly by Jon, and he also took the warning of white walkers seriously the first time. The only one who did.

Tyrion is in a very powerful spot, with real connections to both major players. I think that lends credence to him being the third head of the dragon. Beyond the circumstantial evidence, it's the three of them who seem to have emerged.

Dany can marry Jon even if their parentage is fully revealed. They are Targaryens. However Dany is barren and she knows this. Jon, possibly Tyrion is her heir and Dany must marry for immediate politicalgain, Jon must marry to continue the Targaryen royal dynasty. It ends if they marry each other.

Among book readers, that's a matter of some debate. I don't think we can say that conclusively. Women can be barren until they're not. And that's a world where magic is on the upswing.

All these things however are very clear cut, so it would make sense plotwise if the neat threads to tie together are severed by trajedy of one kind or another. One of the above will meet a senseless death I think, as all are too well advised to just hack at each other on a whim.

Daenerys is the one in danger, methinks. It's all going a little too well for her. Then again, it also wouldn't surprise me if her fate in the show is different than in the books. Martin has never seemed interested in turning her into a girl power icon like the show writers have. She's almost certainly much safer in the show.

The only alternative is to turn the show just into a war story between the dragon faction and the undead faction, and I dont think you can drag that out through too many episodes, without a character plot to back it up.

Well...they're talking about only 12 or 13 episodes across the next two seasons. So...

Martin has never seemed interested in turning her into a girl power icon like the show writers have.

Actually he did - up until the last couple of books she had been a woman who had experienced love and loss, power and helplessness and had grown into her role - he then gave up on that and decided to rewrite her entire character as a soppy teenager so he give have the focus shift to the male heroes - in particular the new discovered male Targaryian/s and numerous other minor characters that he had more interest in. Terrible choice and writing IMO but that also nicely sums up the last few books.

As you say we only have 12 hours of the show left:

This to cover Dany's arrival and consequences, the undead war, any flashbacks to previous events, Arya's quest for vengeance, whatever the Ironborn are doing, Peter machinations, an alliance or conflict between Dany and Jon - and if not the political stuff between them and their supporters.

Oh and visits to see Sam read books of course.............

Lots of stuff to do. Vikings does similar stuff and does it well.

 gorgon wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Also a war between Dany and Jon will be wasteful allowing for what is coming and unlikely allowing for who counsells the two leaders. Tyrion will be remembered fondly by Jon, and he also took the warning of white walkers seriously the first time. The only one who did.

Tyrion is in a very powerful spot, with real connections to both major players. I think that lends credence to him being the third head of the dragon. Beyond the circumstantial evidence, it's the three of them who seem to have emerged.

Yers in a way Tyrion doesnt need to be revealed as Aegons bastard son to be the third head of the dragon. It is possible that he is not and is a political third head. Still the new HBO relationship wheel doesnt include Tyrion but does include Jaime and hat has me wondering if it is because they don't want to lie.

 gorgon wrote:

Dany can marry Jon even if their parentage is fully revealed. They are Targaryens. However Dany is barren and she knows this. Jon, possibly Tyrion is her heir and Dany must marry for immediate politicalgain, Jon must marry to continue the Targaryen royal dynasty. It ends if they marry each other.

Among book readers, that's a matter of some debate. I don't think we can say that conclusively. Women can be barren until they're not. And that's a world where magic is on the upswing.

I will concede your point, but Dany believed she is barren and that will be a guide to logical action even she finds she is not. She also thinks she is the last Targaryen, I think her reaction to finding sghe is not alone will likely be protective rather than combative. She is not Viserys, and never was.

 gorgon wrote:

All these things however are very clear cut, so it would make sense plotwise if the neat threads to tie together are severed by trajedy of one kind or another. One of the above will meet a senseless death I think, as all are too well advised to just hack at each other on a whim.

Daenerys is the one in danger, methinks. It's all going a little too well for her. Then again, it also wouldn't surprise me if her fate in the show is different than in the books. Martin has never seemed interested in turning her into a girl power icon like the show writers have. She's almost certainly much safer in the show.

I concur allowing for the fact that everything is sped up it would be disjointed if Dany doesn't arrive on Westeros quickly unless something happens to stop her. There are too many episodes left for her to get a smooth ride west. Something must befall her either on the way or when she lands, and it must be a game changer.
My hunch is that Dany will die in the last book/series, though I dont see how yet. Her death will open up a huge number of plot doors, especially if there are now independent dothraki tribes on Westeros. But I cannot see her dying before the last season it would kill the show, she has to have a measure of plot armour as main character.

 gorgon wrote:

The only alternative is to turn the show just into a war story between the dragon faction and the undead faction, and I dont think you can drag that out through too many episodes, without a character plot to back it up.

Well...they're talking about only 12 or 13 episodes across the next two seasons. So...

More reason why they should have broken down episode 10 in to several episodes, and restored the next series to ten episodes again. They could have left two of the three main plots out of the episode and focused on one. The other two could have been pushed to the next season.
On the other hand the most likely plot to leave over is the Kings Landing plotline. however first that is becoming irrelevant as soon as we saw Dany taking ship, second it means that a huge number of recurring cast can be killed off in this season not the next one. This cuts costs. I can see why they did it, it made commercial sense to start to focus in and downsize the active cast, and iot was handled well enough.

 Orlanth wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

The Mormonts are deservedly on the rise, being valued key support for the two main endgame players for the Iron Throne. She is just a kid and hasn't married yet and time is on her side. She could well be queen of Westeros one day, got the talent and the connexions.

Great character and well played.

Her support for the Starks is obvious but who is the other candidate you are thinking of as they have not allied with Dany as far as I can see unless Jorah pops up to say hi?

The two endgame players on the white hat (or closest to white hat) side are Dany and Jon. Kid Mormont could marry Jon later, it would make sense for him to marry into Dorne, but Jon seems to want secession not the Iron Throne.
Jon is a winner because he may well keep the north as a separate state, especially as he is one of the heads of the dragon and the fact that one of the dragons is white was a clue from the start. He also outranks Dany on the succession as the Targaryens if rumours of the secret wedding are true. Jon's chances of keeping the title King In the North are very good.

Also a war between Dany and Jon will be wasteful allowing for what is coming and unlikely allowing for who counsells the two leaders. Tyrion will be remembered fondly by Jon, and he also took the warning of white walkers seriously the first time. The only one who did.

A contest of succession between Jon and Dany is very possible anyway because it is desperately needed as filler now. We have two books to go but only very little political story to tell. ~for a Tv series the politidcs and dialogue not the battles are the focus, with exception of episode 9 of each season most battles are offscreen or token content is shown. As the endgame approaches we are left with a war story, and very few character arcs as most political plotlines have solidified.

Jon is not a dragon rider - at least by the books... (Martin has come right and stated that in the books, Dany will have her dragon riders sorted out before she leaves for Westeros.)
As Jon isn't making it out of the North, there's no possible way for him to get a dragon.

Also, the colours of the dragons are dead giveaway as to their likely riders;
1. Drogon is black & red - the colours of House Targaryen.
2. Viseryen is golden scaled - the colour of House Lannister. (and we have Tyrion spending too many early chapters of ADwD's recalling how all he dreamed about as a kid was riding atop a dragon!)
3. Rhaegal is green scaled - the colour of House Mormont (a black bear on a solid green field). While initially dishonest, Jorah is easily the single most loyal servant & adviser Dany has had. (though Tyrion is of course, going to be equally loyal & devoted) Jorah also deeply and truly loves Daenerys, and she has long had conflicting feelings about him, seeing him in part as a surrogate for her older brother Rhaeghar.
Plus, (in the books), Jorah has also been the one and only character besides Dany who's gotten a positive reaction from any of the dragons... In ASoS's, while in Dany's cabin, Jorah says "dracarys" as more or less a question to Dany, and Rhaegal, upon hearing the word, cocks his head to the side, then spews fire! (neatly removing Jorah's eyebrows!)

Granted this all via the books, but it seems like we're not going to get actual dragon riders beyond Dany in the series version.

You don't have to be a Targaryen to ride a dragon...
In old Valyria, it was only the Targaryen family who are know to have (somehow) managed to successfully give themselves dragon blood, and thus be able to 'bond' with their dragons. (although this method isn't by any means foolproof, since Targs have been eaten by their own dragons in the past!)
Mostly however, the Valyrians bound their dragons through the use of magic and the dragonhorns, which were in part made with Valyrian steel.

It's also probably therefore likely that the whole "Euron is a dragon rider!" theory is equally bunk, since they've not introduced at all the fact that he has magical Valyrian armour & the horn 'Dragonbinder' in the series...

Jon is not a dragon rider - at least by the books... (Martin has come right and stated that in the books, Dany will have her dragon riders sorted out before she leaves for Westeros.)
As Jon isn't making it out of the North, there's no possible way for him to get a dragon.

Martin said Dany was not fireproof - she is in the show Lots of stuff changed for the better. The books are receding into the far background as a source of the plot/s.

We are also assumed there are no frozen dragons for the Walkers to animate! Have we seen animated mammoths or giants (although CGI budget may preclude)

Tyrion (Targaryian or not) seems to be getting on ok with the Dragons and they also are not above eating Targaryians - even Dany has been snapped at.

Of course Dany's fleet and Dragons could get hit by a big storm to screw up their invasion - but that would be a bit crap IMO.

People have also been getting a bit sick and tired of the how long certain things have taken to happen - its taken this long for Dany to finally start her invasion and the same with the undead.

 kronk wrote:

7 episode each for 2 more seasons is rumor

I heard 2 of 6 but its not exactly a big difference.

The last season was OK although not really what I was looking for. I am looking forward to the next book though (if it ever comes out....)

Experiment 626 wrote:
Jon is not a dragon rider - at least by the books... (Martin has come right and stated that in the books, Dany will have her dragon riders sorted out before she leaves for Westeros.)
As Jon isn't making it out of the North, there's no possible way for him to get a dragon.

Also, the colours of the dragons are dead giveaway as to their likely riders;
1. Drogon is black & red - the colours of House Targaryen.
2. Viseryen is golden scaled - the colour of House Lannister. (and we have Tyrion spending too many early chapters of ADwD's recalling how all he dreamed about as a kid was riding atop a dragon!)
3. Rhaegal is green scaled - the colour of House Mormont (a black bear on a solid green field). While initially dishonest, Jorah is easily the single most loyal servant & adviser Dany has had. (though Tyrion is of course, going to be equally loyal & devoted) Jorah also deeply and truly loves Daenerys, and she has long had conflicting feelings about him, seeing him in part as a surrogate for her older brother Rhaeghar.
Plus, (in the books), Jorah has also been the one and only character besides Dany who's gotten a positive reaction from any of the dragons... In ASoS's, while in Dany's cabin, Jorah says "dracarys" as more or less a question to Dany, and Rhaegal, upon hearing the word, cocks his head to the side, then spews fire! (neatly removing Jorah's eyebrows!)

This is where I can imagine scenarios quite different in the show and books. As you said, we may not get other dragon riders at all in the show. And I think Daenerys has far more plot armor in the show. In the books, I'm less convinced that she's going to make it, and wouldn't be surprised to see Jon end up inheriting Drogon. Just feels like the son of the Dragon Prince in a world with reawakened dragons kinda has to get one of the beasts at some point. And of course you have the warg angle in the books that isn't in the show.

As Orlanth indicated, the riders might not even be related to Maester Aemon's "three heads." Aemon said that he should be with Daenerys, guiding her, which sounds more about a leadership/political thing than climbing onto a big magical reptile.

But re: Tyrion, yeah..."dragon dreams" are a thing for Targaryens. Maester Aemon talked about he and his brothers having them. Although I can't recall any reference to Tyrion's dreams being prophetic. Still.

The books and show are just gong to keep diverging - I honestly am beginning to think GRM has increasingly made Dany a less central character precisely because she was so popular - he also seems to really dislike people 2nd guessing him. Many people assumed Jon and Dany were endgame and again that might have been so once but he may well have changed it because people thought that....

However massive changes in character focus (and indeed in the actual depiction of characters) is more tricky in a tv show - they can't just add or delete characters on a whim -actors need to be hired and fired. Ignoring half the cast for whole seasons would have been fatal. Also constantly and apparently deliberately teasing character intersections that somehow don't happen gets tiresome fast.

Book Dany actually starts off a little stronger than her show counterpart - its her that makes her brother walk rather than ride, but as the two progress they become opposites. In the book by the time she has reached Meerem she looses her all her confidence and drive, becomes little more than a puppet in a way that whilst it may annoy some readers (like me).

If it had followed the same storyline, I think that the show audience would have been less tolerant with one of the favourites and as some describe it as an exponent of "girl power" which does help capture and hold a sought after female audience.

I'd be quite interested to know what someone who had only seen the show and then read the books thought of them as they are now so different.

The last season was OK although not really what I was looking for. I am looking forward to the next book though (if it ever comes out....)

I think its a big if - but in terms of the storyline - what would you have enjoyed more? Curious to get an idea of where you think it needed to change - plot, characters, speed,? Dorne and the culmination of Arya's "ninja" story are the only real areas I have an issue at the moment but intrigued about what you would do different- closer to the books or even more divergent?

I'm still...hopeful that the last two (please, let it only be two more!) books will be enjoyable.

But, I'm not exactly hopeful that we'll get two more books out of ol' George!

Also:

Honestly I long ago hit the point of Martin not getting a single penny out of me for his actual physical books. I was almost to the you'd have to pay me to read his next book. It's not quite there but its darn close.

I support the HBO show because damnit I'm finally going to get an ending to a series that I started loving in highschool that went to crap after waiting like 14 years for 2 books....

It's been 20 years since the first book came out, and something like 5 since the last one was released?

Ouch!

 Alpharius wrote:
It's been 20 years since the first book came out, and something like 5 since the last one was released?

Ouch!

Wow did not realise it was that long ago!

So what would people's top 5 things they would like to see in the show next season?

While some parts of this season were fantastic, I've never been more excited for tWoW to finally come out to see how George handles Mereen (hopefully not just burning it down) and Braavos.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I think its a big if - but in terms of the storyline - what would you have enjoyed more? Curious to get an idea of where you think it needed to change - plot, characters, speed,? Dorne and the culmination of Arya's "ninja" story are the only real areas I have an issue at the moment but intrigued about what you would do different- closer to the books or even more divergent?

Arya's story could have given us a much deeper look into a mysterious (and very influential) secret organization. The King's Landing storyline could have been a much more interesting narrative about church and state. The storyline in the north ended up in a good place, but seemed to stall fairly dramatically between Jon's resurrection and the battle for Winterfell. I would have liked to have seen better dialogue and conversations. Tyrion made the remark about the history of the world, great conversations, and elegant rooms, but I felt like this season lacked exactly those kinds of conversations compared to earlier seasons.

There was no way to capture more than a fraction of the books' tremendous depth and complexity in the show. But IMO, some of the writing issues this season seemed to make the show much shallower than it was in early seasons, and bring the show more in-line with the standard fantasy tropes that the books are more inclined to subvert.

I think it was a funny season in that the storyline moved and "stuff happened," and yet it felt somewhat drawn out through the middle. If what we saw this season is the depth level we'll see going forward, then I think 6-7 episodes per season would work fine. That would probably be a smart acknowledgement that the show is at a 'time to gak or get off the pot' moment -- if what they want to give us is a Cliff's Notes version that they can wrap up ASAP, then they probably don't need to give us 10 episodes a season. If they wanted to continue the pace and depth from earlier seasons, then two more seasons wouldn't be enough.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
It's been 20 years since the first book came out, and something like 5 since the last one was released?

Ouch!

Wow did not realise it was that long ago!

So what would people's top 5 things they would like to see in the show next season?

Daenerys' army arrives at Kings Landing.
The scene from the trailers and Bran's visions with a Dragon flying over what appears to be Kings Landing.
Cersei uses Wildfire to burn Kings Landing out of defiance and overall insanity.
Jaime the "Valonquar" strangles Cersei as the Red Keep crumbles around them. Jaime perishes in the fire with Cersei in his arms.
Daenerys walks through the ruins of the Red Keep as snow falls on Kings Landing (as per her House of the Undying vision).

Euron Greyjoy becomes an antagonist and impedes Danny's fleet in some way.
A significant portion of her fleet is destroyed and her military strength is diminished prior to or during her invasion.

Arya reunites with Nymeria.

...


Lady Stoneheart?

The Night King sounding the Horn of Winter and The Wall going kablamo!

 Mr Morden wrote:

I think its a big if - but in terms of the storyline - what would you have enjoyed more?

The proper Arya storyline for a start, the majority of the Winterfell events felt cobbled together and the 'Fray Bentos' could have done with being a lot longer as well. At least both of these will be significantly different in the next book. I'm sure that there would be more but it has been years since I read the books.

This was the first series that I watched and while It was watchable but it did not live up to its reputation.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

Lady Stoneheart?

I'll say this...you sure don't give up hope.

 gorgon wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

Lady Stoneheart?

I'll say this...you sure don't give up hope.

I think we'll see her. She likes to hang people. The Brotherhood didn't really go stringing people up that much before she came in. They seem to be a bit more zealous than they were when first introduced in Season 3. Quite a few hangings in that one episode with Sandor Clegane...

 Mr Morden wrote:

Jon is not a dragon rider - at least by the books... (Martin has come right and stated that in the books, Dany will have her dragon riders sorted out before she leaves for Westeros.)
As Jon isn't making it out of the North, there's no possible way for him to get a dragon.

Martin said Dany was not fireproof - she is in the show Lots of stuff changed for the better. The books are receding into the far background as a source of the plot/s.

GRRM will have to try hard to top the TV shows way of uniting the Dothraki behind Dany.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

Lady Stoneheart?

I'll say this...you sure don't give up hope.

I think we'll see her. She likes to hang people. The Brotherhood didn't really go stringing people up that much before she came in. They seem to be a bit more zealous than they were when first introduced in Season 3. Quite a few hangings in that one episode with Sandor Clegane...

Ha!

And neither do you!

Experiment 626 wrote:

Also, the colours of the dragons are dead giveaway as to their likely riders;
1. Drogon is black & red - the colours of House Targaryen.
2. Viseryen is golden scaled - the colour of House Lannister. (and we have Tyrion spending too many early chapters of ADwD's recalling how all he dreamed about as a kid was riding atop a dragon!)
3. Rhaegal is green scaled - the colour of House Mormont (a black bear on a solid green field). While initially dishonest, Jorah is easily the single most loyal servant & adviser Dany has had. (though Tyrion is of course, going to be equally loyal & devoted) Jorah also deeply and truly loves Daenerys, and she has long had conflicting feelings about him, seeing him in part as a surrogate for her older brother Rhaeghar.
Plus, (in the books), Jorah has also been the one and only character besides Dany who's gotten a positive reaction from any of the dragons... In ASoS's, while in Dany's cabin, Jorah says "dracarys" as more or less a question to Dany, and Rhaegal, upon hearing the word, cocks his head to the side, then spews fire! (neatly removing Jorah's eyebrows!)

I do agree that the colouras of th dragons are a giveaway to their riders. I was sure Viserion was white. So I looked it up after you said it was golden. There are golden trim to Viserion, but it is a creamy white dragon, in fact refered to as the 'white dragon'.
Here:

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Viserion

Broadly shares colour with Ghost.

I'm expecting Viserion to be ridden by Tyrion, given that Viserion is a creamy gold colour, and gold is closely associated with Lannisters.

And I hope Jon will be the one to ride Rhaegal. Its only fitting that Jon should ride the dragon named after his father, Rhaegar Targaryen.

Yep. He's a white dragon.

The greenseer Bran would make sense to ride the green dragon....

Which is odd, because almost every representation I've seen of Viserion really plays up the gold aspect of his 'cream and gold' colored scales.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I'm expecting Viserion to be ridden by Tyrion, given that Viserion is a creamy gold colour, and gold is closely associated with Lannisters.

And I hope Jon will be the one to ride Rhaegal. Its only fitting that Jon should ride the dragon named after his father, Rhaegar Targaryen.

In the Tv show, Tyrion built a rapport with Rhaegal, Viserion nearly burned him.
It was almost an echo of the story of Quenten Martell. The friendly dragon before him the unfriendly dragon creeping up from behind.

I do think that without a dragon affinity entering the lair would have been suicide. It isd a good scene but it is not vbook canon, nevertheless if both are heading to th same conclusion but via different scenes I can see Tyrion riding Rhaegal one day. I hope so, he deserves the privilege.

They are definitely 100% not going to introduce Lady Stoneheart at this point. There isn't time.

I also am very doubtful on the Horn of Joramun. They really have not established it in any way on the show.