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2008/01/05 21:24:59
Subject: Count as?
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Giggling Nurgling
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I've put together a CSM list using the new codex, but I lack funds right now(college, wtf?), so I looked through my collection to see what I have that could be plausible. And lo and behold, I came upon about 20 Assault Marines. Now my question is, if I painted them in a chaos scheme, added some green stuff and some chaos looking pieces, could I pass them off as raptors? Justifying it fluff-wise is easy, but would gamers have a problem facing off against them?
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2008/01/05 21:53:56
Subject: Re:Count as?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't see anyone having a problem with that.
people usually only hate it when someone trys to use a squad of night goblin archers as guants and that kinda thing!
I use plague marines with the old metal marine jumppacks as my raptors all the time and no ones ever had a problem with it...
Panic
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2008/01/05 23:34:04
Subject: Count as?
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Tilter at Windmills
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No problem at all. Dudes in power armor with jump packs and apprpriate weapons are certainly rep. Chaos bitz and a color scheme to match the rest of your army seal the deal.
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Adepticon 2015: Team Tourney Best Imperial Team- Team Ironguts, Adepticon 2014: Team Tourney 6th/120, Best Imperial Team- Cold Steel Mercs 2, 40k Championship Qualifier ~25/226
More 2010-2014 GT/Major RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 78-20-9 // SW: 8-1-2 (Golden Ticket with SW), BA: 29-9-4 6th Ed GT & RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 36-12-2 // BA: 11-4-1 // SW: 1-1-1
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2008/01/05 23:47:38
Subject: Count as?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Los Angeles
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I don't even think you need any spikes. Just a defensible color scheme and you should be golden.
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2008/01/06 01:11:40
Subject: Count as?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Just match the colors and you'll be fine.
Tho if you can swap some heads / weapons / shoulders to match the rest, that would be a good thing.
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2008/01/06 01:14:41
Subject: Count as?
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Madrak Ironhide
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It's not like you're putting swooping hawks on the table...
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2008/01/06 02:17:36
Subject: Count as?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Bay Area
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yeah but what about chaos swooping hawks? it's sorta possible and it would look so cool
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2008/01/06 02:22:01
Subject: Count as?
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Madrak Ironhide
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Do you mean like a Chaos rules with Eldar model
army, or an Eldar rules with Chaosy modeled army?
It's all in the details!
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2008/01/06 02:37:55
Subject: Re:Count as?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I had a idea once...
(probabily not that original, i saw a awesome eldar army with Slaanesh corruption modeled everywhere)
To have a tau army who have been listening to the chaos blood god...
they were to fight for the 'greater bad'...
Panic (not at the disco)...
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2008/01/06 02:39:25
Subject: Count as?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Bay Area
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I didn't think it through too much, but I just meant using swooping hawks modeled with spikes being used as raptors. I didn't think about the rest of the army. CSM probably wouldn't fight alongside eldar I would think.So probably a fallen eldar worldcraft or something with chaos rules.
I might have yet another project on my hands.
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2008/01/06 02:41:09
Subject: Count as?
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Madrak Ironhide
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Well if you modeled it as you say, then why not?
I think you'd almost want to make the heads more
pteradactylish.
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2008/01/07 17:55:47
Subject: Count as?
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Tilter at Windmills
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Swooping Hawk models used as Raptors would be tough. The biggest issue is the weapons. In any conversion army you want the weapons to match up and be consistent, and it would be extremely difficult to convert those guys to be wielding bolt pistols and close combat weapons.
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Adepticon 2015: Team Tourney Best Imperial Team- Team Ironguts, Adepticon 2014: Team Tourney 6th/120, Best Imperial Team- Cold Steel Mercs 2, 40k Championship Qualifier ~25/226
More 2010-2014 GT/Major RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 78-20-9 // SW: 8-1-2 (Golden Ticket with SW), BA: 29-9-4 6th Ed GT & RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 36-12-2 // BA: 11-4-1 // SW: 1-1-1
DT:70S++++G(FAQ)M++B++I+Pw40k99#+D+++A+++/sWD105R+++T(T)DM+++++
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The 40K Rulebook & Codex FAQs. You should have these bookmarked if you play this game.
The Dakka Dakka Forum Rules You agreed to abide by these when you signed up.
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2008/01/07 17:59:32
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Sadly, chaos raptors ARE assault marines now, just with some different weapon options and ikons, and no ATSKNF 
So go for it 
- Salvage
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2008/01/07 18:09:16
Subject: Count as?
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Dakka Veteran
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It even fits in with the fluff because the modern jetpacks could be a result of modern marines turning to chaos
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2008/01/07 22:09:00
Subject: Count as?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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lifeafter wrote:It even fits in with the fluff because the modern jetpacks could be a result of modern marines turning to chaos
Exactly the point I was going to make.
The new codex isn't just about CSM. It's about Traitor SM, as well.
Are they painted? If not, paint them up... Heck, paint them loyalist, if you want.
Once painted, put a big red "X" across their chapter insignia and you're set.
Before painting, take a file or your modelling knife to the Imperial symbols.
You're all set.
With proper modelling and/or painting, I can't forsee anyone reasonably having a problem with that.
Even WITHOUT said modelling/painting, only the most anal players or biggest jerks would take issue.
Regarding Swooping Hawks... One day....
One day I will have a unit of Slaaneshi Raptors that will be represented by converted and appropriately painted Swooping Hawks.
They will be kewl.
Eric
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2008/01/07 22:35:25
Subject: Count as?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Bay Area
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The wings would be all reptiley and with the pterodactyl head like you suggested.
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2008/01/08 09:12:18
Subject: Count as?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
The drinking halls of Fenris or South London as its sometimes called
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Perfectly viable
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