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 stonehorse wrote:
Watched a bit of the twitch game, it looks good aside from a few nagging issues.

Random locations being hit by shooting, always feels a bit lazy to me. I hope the rules don't allow for systems to be hit when they are not within line of sight being hit. There is apparently an order to target locations, which helps, but seems to be added to address what to me is a game flaw.

In combat, Knights seem to be able to leap into the air and strike a Warlord's torso from 2" away. There should be a restriction on what smaller titans can reach.

Blast template scatter, it doesn't seem right at this scale. In the game one Warlord's weapons missed a Warlord that was within 6" and each scattered to either side of the Warlord by a large degree. Again, given the scale scatter should only be a small amount, not anywhere close to what was shown.

Now apart from those three points, everything else seems spot on.



regarding random locations, depending on how it's done it should work just fine, if they do it like battletech there will still be a reason to flank and attack from differant sides

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Does anyone remember mechwarrior 3 PC? So fckin awesome. I'm super pumped for AT, can't wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdzwzEIC4CM

(this game is 20 years old btw - holds up pretty well imo)
   
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 Overread wrote:
twist their vision to hit where a titan is not and to leave his righteous engine of war free to deliver the killing blow.


That sounds like the Eldar fields, actually.

   
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JWBS wrote:
Does anyone remember mechwarrior 3 PC? So fckin awesome. I'm super pumped for AT, can't wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdzwzEIC4CM

(this game is 20 years old btw - holds up pretty well imo)


You do understand that game is based on an existing miniatures wargame, right? One that is apparently undergoing somewhat of a renaissance as we speak?

The thread directly beneath this one as I type..

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/757044.page

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JWBS wrote:
Does anyone remember mechwarrior 3 PC? So fckin awesome. I'm super pumped for AT, can't wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdzwzEIC4CM

(this game is 20 years old btw - holds up pretty well imo)



I do, you MAY wanna check out this thread https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/757044.page Not sure if you're aware but Battletech and Mechwarrior was the same franchise.



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 Azreal13 wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Does anyone remember mechwarrior 3 PC? So fckin awesome. I'm super pumped for AT, can't wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdzwzEIC4CM

(this game is 20 years old btw - holds up pretty well imo)


You do understand that game is based on an existing miniatures wargame, right? One that is apparently undergoing somewhat of a renaissance as we speak?

The thread directly beneath this one as I type..

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/757044.page


In fairness the name Mechwarrior as opposed to Battletech throws a LOT of people. Wasn't a big fan of Mechwarrior: Dark Age but I DID think they did the smart thing to rename the board game Mechwarrior when they did that

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Spoiler:


Couple of things that popped up on Facebook.

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
 
   
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 jonolikespie wrote:


Spoiler:


Couple of things that popped up on Facebook.


Hmm. Tasty, tasty "later supplements".
   
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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Do we know how much terrain? Are we talking a surprising amount (enough for a 6x4 table) or a couple of small modular buildings?


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/03/3rd-aug-warhammer-fest-europe-forge-world-and-specialist-gamesgw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-1/

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We should know the price early next week then....
   
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pretty small amount of terrain but given the scale of the game it should be easy to get more, any "model train store" should sell stuff in the right scale I'm thinking

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BrianDavion wrote:
pretty small amount of terrain but given the scale of the game it should be easy to get more, any "model train store" should sell stuff in the right scale I'm thinking

Oh damn that's worth looking into. Do model train hobbiests ever need like.. old school gorthic European buildings for anything?

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
 
   
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There are options all over the place for easily made papercraft buildings that can be used for Titanicus. Not especially "grimdark" but they still exist.



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 jonolikespie wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
pretty small amount of terrain but given the scale of the game it should be easy to get more, any "model train store" should sell stuff in the right scale I'm thinking

Oh damn that's worth looking into. Do model train hobbiests ever need like.. old school gorthic European buildings for anything?



not a clue, never did that stuff myself nor know anyone who does. I've got a hobby store downtown that sells the stuff, might be worth looking into, the best bet for that I'm thinking would be trying to find replicas of famous cathedrals in the right style. Notre dame, westminister abby etc.

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So if you remove the scale references (rivets and some of the weapon options), the Knight Castellan would make a great Imperator Titan. I guess it should be pretty simple to use the new AT terrain to get some "carapace castle" if one wants this.

Also: a Wraithlord should be about Reaver size, Wraithguard should be a bit bigger than Knights. So any Eldar aficionado could easily do a "counts as" list based on these two.

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For non-building terrain there is also a bunch of manufacturers who make terrain for small scale WW2 miniature games.

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BrianDavion wrote:
 jonolikespie wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
pretty small amount of terrain but given the scale of the game it should be easy to get more, any "model train store" should sell stuff in the right scale I'm thinking

Oh damn that's worth looking into. Do model train hobbiests ever need like.. old school gorthic European buildings for anything?



not a clue, never did that stuff myself nor know anyone who does. I've got a hobby store downtown that sells the stuff, might be worth looking into, the best bet for that I'm thinking would be trying to find replicas of famous cathedrals in the right style. Notre dame, westminister abby etc.

I found this on Amazon (and a collection of similar ones):
https://www.amazon.com/Fascinations-ICONX-Temple-Metal-Model/dp/B06XC1435M/ref=pd_sim_21_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XC1435M&pd_rd_r=9HXYJ5Q13PZK32QV1QKY&pd_rd_w=BHU3F&pd_rd_wg=brt5y&psc=1&refRID=9HXYJ5Q13PZK32QV1QKY



Style would totally fit, it lists dimensions and sounds small but I guess Titanicus is a smaller scale. I also found this just to get a better idea of what it'd look like and maybe a size pic:
https://imgur.com/gallery/U4kXW

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
 
   
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Nice, I got a hunch once we actually get the minis in our hands we're gonna see a lotta foilks getting creative with finding terrain.

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Where are the plastic weapon emplacements and silos? The description has them, but they forgot them in the complete set picture, I hope they did.

The sprue was in the rulebook unboxing video, I should be in the master edition box set too.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Does anyone remember mechwarrior 3 PC? So fckin awesome. I'm super pumped for AT, can't wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdzwzEIC4CM

(this game is 20 years old btw - holds up pretty well imo)


You do understand that game is based on an existing miniatures wargame, right? One that is apparently undergoing somewhat of a renaissance as we speak?

The thread directly beneath this one as I type..

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/757044.page


I absolutely do. I've been into GW and related products on and off for maybe 30 years (I'm 37). The first mini I painted was "Squat with melta gun" I painted him black and gold. He was awesome. I was into MW3 for about a year in the late 90s. I was vaguely aware of Battletech at the time. Now that I think about it I'm surprised I never sought out a Madcat to paint up. But yeah, I know of the game of which you speak.

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 jonolikespie wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 jonolikespie wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
pretty small amount of terrain but given the scale of the game it should be easy to get more, any "model train store" should sell stuff in the right scale I'm thinking

Oh damn that's worth looking into. Do model train hobbiests ever need like.. old school gorthic European buildings for anything?



not a clue, never did that stuff myself nor know anyone who does. I've got a hobby store downtown that sells the stuff, might be worth looking into, the best bet for that I'm thinking would be trying to find replicas of famous cathedrals in the right style. Notre dame, westminister abby etc.

I found this on Amazon (and a collection of similar ones):
https://www.amazon.com/Fascinations-ICONX-Temple-Metal-Model/dp/B06XC1435M/ref=pd_sim_21_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XC1435M&pd_rd_r=9HXYJ5Q13PZK32QV1QKY&pd_rd_w=BHU3F&pd_rd_wg=brt5y&psc=1&refRID=9HXYJ5Q13PZK32QV1QKY



Style would totally fit, it lists dimensions and sounds small but I guess Titanicus is a smaller scale. I also found this just to get a better idea of what it'd look like and maybe a size pic:
https://imgur.com/gallery/U4kXW


Oh wow. Seems perfect.

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 midget_overlord wrote:
Where are the plastic weapon emplacements and silos? The description has them, but they forgot them in the complete set picture, I hope they did.

The sprue was in the rulebook unboxing video, I should be in the master edition box set too.


Spoiler:

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 jonolikespie wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
pretty small amount of terrain but given the scale of the game it should be easy to get more, any "model train store" should sell stuff in the right scale I'm thinking

Oh damn that's worth looking into. Do model train hobbiests ever need like.. old school gorthic European buildings for anything?


Z-Scale railway scenics will be close to the mark - 1/200th to 1/220th, depending on the subject. (Model railway scales vary to match the differing gauges of real track to the stock-standard track widths produced by model companies.) Z-scale figures are around 8-10mm, so that seems about right.

Kibri make a nice Cathedral that offers good conversion potential:



Alternatively, you could go for N-Scale (1/160th). Lots more buildings etc available. Doors will be large enough for 8mm scale Primaris Marines.

Another Kibri offering:



Hobbies from Other Dimensions!
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I'd suggest these kits for terrain,
https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/terrain/troublemaker-games/

But then again, I would. :-)
   
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beast_gts wrote:
 midget_overlord wrote:
Where are the plastic weapon emplacements and silos? The description has them, but they forgot them in the complete set picture, I hope they did.

The sprue was in the rulebook unboxing video, I should be in the master edition box set too.


Spoiler:
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The Arc templates are also missing from the Master box?
   
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The guy watching over the cases at gencon told me the box would retail for $280. I was interested, but that price point is worrying.
   
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Gotta say....if that's the full contents of the Grand Master Edition I don't know why it would be very expensive. I thought it was going to provide a lot more terrain, etc.

PS: Silly minimal complaint, but I'm sad to see three types of D6 dice all cast in the same colour. Would have vastly preferred different colour dice for each type --- simply easier mid-game.

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 Duskland wrote:
The guy watching over the cases at gencon told me the box would retail for $280. I was interested, but that price point is worrying.


if its anywhere near that much I'll pass and just buy the titans I want.

$200 ok, almost $300 screw that.
   
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At that price point I'd likely have to pass as well. I like the models and ideas but if that's where they're planning on pricing models (as that's supposed to include a free Warlord) I'd be out. But I still feel like that's inaccurate. $180 would make it the highest cost starter yet and would fit more inline with what's been shown.

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Evil & Chaos wrote:
I'd suggest these kits for terrain,
https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/terrain/troublemaker-games/

But then again, I would. :-)


I like the Industrial Sector Buildings. They remind me of the original foam office blocks that came with Adeptus Titanicus.

Are you saying these are the right scale for AT?

I suppose with every edge being 50mm then... one of the new Knight models would be able to see over 1 'cube' but not 2 stacked?

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The Warlord is 3 sprues and the knights are three to a sprue. Add two, IIRC, sprues for the little bits and 8 sprues of buildings that's 18 standard-sized frames (i.e. sized to fit in the box a Space Marine Tactical Squad comes in, or 1/4 the area of the box top).

Necromunda has 4 sprues that size plus two double-sized sprues.
   
 
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