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Maaaan, they need to tell us the feckin' price already, I need to order a bunch of hobby supplies but I can't until I know how much of my budget this month has to go to AT

 Nurglitch wrote:
Are there objectives or whatever in the game so it's more than just trying to kill the other guy first?

Absolutely! I think the matched play system's one of the strengths of the game - it's a bit different to any other current GW games (it harks back a *little* bit to 2nd edition 40k), and was great fun during playtesting. In short, though, yeah, there's a variety of objectives.

Do you know any examples? I'm just curious (and impatient as I could probably learn when it's rolled out at my local GW).

I don't wanna say too much before release, but there's a good variety

(Also, if one player has a more powerful force, the other player can take on additional objectives so they have more ways to score victory points.)

 lagoon83 wrote:

Every weapon has its place, and positioning and manoeuvring are vital to using them well. Anyone who ignores Knights is a fool. There you go

Such enlightenment, much info

But really, it would be very interesting to hear designer commentary once the release is out and you can talk about it more freely, like how weapon profiles were chosen or how their carriers' intended roles in the background affected that.

Are you at liberty to hint at what sort of expansions we could expect to come? Campaign packs with missions and post-game tracking, weapon add-ons, titan variants with the same basic body, expanded battlefield effects?

I've already said too much! Ask me in a month or so.

 lagoon83 wrote:
I've already said too much! Ask me in a month or so.

Don't worry 'bout the bounty hunters coming to silence you, we'll take care of them

 lagoon83 wrote:

gorgon wrote:As a soon-to-be Legio Audax player, you just made my day with that comment.

There were several Audax fans in the office too

Of course there were.

WE RUN IN PACKS!


Seriously though, it's good to hear that the Legio has its supporters there.

I think I'll have two warlords, two reavers, a warhound to shadow each of them, and a couple more pairs of warhounds to run around and do their own thing. Also this will probably be the first WD I've bought in at least 10 years.

TBF soul Wars had the same missing price info and it turned out really good value. Looking at the pic of contents I still think the £120 price point I was told is right

There's that pesky £120 Price Point 'rumor' again!

All kidding aside, I hope you're right!

Though that still puts it at $175, which feels...pricey for the contents.

Would I be happier at $150 (which would mean at least 'only' $128)?

Yes, yes I would.

I'm good with the pricing band between 165 (current starters) and 195 (knight renegade). I figure we're closer to that $195 for us americans but assuming we're even looking at $30 per knight lance and $60 per warlord we'd still be getting the rulebook, all the fidley bits, and the terrain for $15 which is solid.

That the GM Edition will be the most expensive starter ever I believe is a fact taken from a seminar?

So what's the current ceiling?

Starter? $165 is the current ceiling. Most expensive regular boxset is currently $195 I believe as I don't think they currently have any army boxes on sale for more than $175.

The warlord is definitely smaller than a knight, and with no weapon options. They showed an image in the stream today and the warlord is more detailed, but has less physical mass..at least to my eye.

I think 170-190 usd would be okay...anything past that excessive. Though i'm really feeling like it shouldn't be past 180$. I wanted to buy this in store to support the lgs but with california sales tax that would bump the price up by something like 15 bucks. I'm pretty bummed they didn't reveal the price today. Now I can't make an educated decision on whether I should pre order all the Cawdor stuff...which now i'm not going to do cause I can't go crazy spending money on Necromunda if I don't know how much money I need a couple weeks from now.

Watched a bit of the twitch game, it looks good aside from a few nagging issues.

Random locations being hit by shooting, always feels a bit lazy to me. I hope the rules don't allow for systems to be hit when they are not within line of sight being hit. There is apparently an order to target locations, which helps, but seems to be added to address what to me is a game flaw.

In combat, Knights seem to be able to leap into the air and strike a Warlord's torso from 2" away. There should be a restriction on what smaller titans can reach.

Blast template scatter, it doesn't seem right at this scale. In the game one Warlord's weapons missed a Warlord that was within 6" and each scattered to either side of the Warlord by a large degree. Again, given the scale scatter should only be a small amount, not anywhere close to what was shown.

Now apart from those three points, everything else seems spot on.

 Thargrim wrote:
The warlord is definitely smaller than a knight, and with no weapon options. They showed an image in the stream today and the warlord is more detailed, but has less physical mass..at least to my eye.
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like this ?

Ah great! I'm more optimistic the pricing won't be stratospheric seeing that.

Maybe I'll be able to pick up AT and Pellanor Fields as well!

 reds8n wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
The warlord is definitely smaller than a knight, and with no weapon options. They showed an image in the stream today and the warlord is more detailed, but has less physical mass..at least to my eye.
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like this ?

And that’s a camera angle that’s generous to the warlord.

I'm expecting well over $200. I don't know why it wouldn't be, other than wishful thinking. But everyone doesn't need the GM box anyway. *shrug*

I think everybody is forgetting that the grandmaster box comes with terrain. depending on how much they sell the buildings for, the box may be an even better deal.

Do we know how much terrain? Are we talking a surprising amount (enough for a 6x4 table) or a couple of small modular buildings?

A few pics up on War of Sigmar https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/3169 Including that damn double gat Knight again

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Do we know how much terrain? Are we talking a surprising amount (enough for a 6x4 table) or a couple of small modular buildings?

Game is intended for a 4x4, with only some narrative battles using 6x4.

According to WD, this is so we’ve got somewhere to put the datacards and that. Also, seemingly no counters on the board, all on the datacards.

 Mysterio wrote:
There's that pesky £120 Price Point 'rumor' again!

All kidding aside, I hope you're right!

Though that still puts it at $175, which feels...pricey for the contents.

Would I be happier at $150 (which would mean at least 'only' $128)?

Yes, yes I would.

If I get it cheaper than you I might spend the savings on overpriced UK Hearthstone cards But probably not

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Do we know how much terrain? Are we talking a surprising amount (enough for a 6x4 table) or a couple of small modular buildings?

3 small buildings. Contents is in one of the recent links posted.

 stonehorse wrote:
Watched a bit of the twitch game, it looks good aside from a few nagging issues.

Random locations being hit by shooting, always feels a bit lazy to me. I hope the rules don't allow for systems to be hit when they are not within line of sight being hit. There is apparently an order to target locations, which helps, but seems to be added to address what to me is a game flaw.
This doesn't seem too bad to me. Even the best marksman aiming for the heart is gonna hit the liver a lot of the time

In combat, Knights seem to be able to leap into the air and strike a Warlord's torso from 2" away. There should be a restriction on what smaller titans can reach.
Personally I'd just think of this as an abstract

Blast template scatter, it doesn't seem right at this scale. In the game one Warlord's weapons missed a Warlord that was within 6" and each scattered to either side of the Warlord by a large degree. Again, given the scale scatter should only be a small amount, not anywhere close to what was shown.
This does seem a bit weird

Now apart from those three points, everything else seems spot on.

I was afraid of that. I remember earlier in its rumor-mill life, people were claiming what would go on to be called "Grand Master Edition" would be coming with an insane amount of terrain.

Those three buildings will definitely not cut it on a 4x4.

When the heart, soul and machine spirit of a mighty Warlord titan are united in the glory of battle against His enemies. When the Warlord battles with those who would attempt to turn against the will of the most Holy Emperor.

Then in those dire times the will of the Emperor flows through the Machine spirit; powers so vast that they can turn aside the fire of enemies; twist their vision to hit where a titan is not and to leave his righteous engine of war free to deliver the killing blow.



Ergo scatter is partly caused by advanced sciencemagic countermeasures hidden deep within the mysterious innards of the Titans.

 Overread wrote:
When the heart, soul and machine spirit of a mighty Warlord titan are united in the glory of battle against His enemies. When the Warlord battles with those who would attempt to turn against the will of the most Holy Emperor.

Then in those dire times the will of the Emperor flows through the Machine spirit; powers so vast that they can turn aside the fire of enemies; twist their vision to hit where a titan is not and to leave his righteous engine of war free to deliver the killing blow.



Ergo scatter is partly caused by advanced sciencemagic countermeasures hidden deep within the mysterious innards of the Titans.

Eyeless and screaming, the regiments of the dead shiver their burned bones together at the sound of your tread.
Foul vapours clot the sun.
Oh Machine! Oh Divine Engine! Photo-bright the discharge of your weapons, shattering the vault of the sky and smiting the dirt of the ground to dust.