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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/29 22:15:51
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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although if they were o be released there would be a huge adverising campaign about them i hope that the alie hunters are released, or an inquisition codex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 06:50:56
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Chaos Dwarves are not a new race by any margin- rather GW has already been there, done that, decided they weren't worth the investment. And while its possible they changed thier mind, the mentality of GW seems like they regard themselves as infallible, and the dwarves are otherwise precluded by the leaked excitement of doing something new and never before done...
Call me crazy, but evil Dwarves arnt exactly ground breaking in terms of concept
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 09:50:00
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Yeah, but evil Dwarves with giant 'ats and Assyrrian beard is!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 10:02:10
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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JohnHwangDD wrote:Yeah, but evil Dwarves with giant 'ats and Assyrrian beard is!
They wouldn't even have to be overtly a Chaos, they don't worship any of the major gods, and their armylist doesn't share all that many units with the other Chaos lists (going off memory, CD's could take Dragon Ogres). What I'd do would be to recast them more as an independent evil army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 10:54:32
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Agamemnon2 wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Yeah, but evil Dwarves with giant 'ats and Assyrrian beard is!
They wouldn't even have to be overtly a Chaos, they don't worship any of the major gods, and their armylist doesn't share all that many units with the other Chaos lists (going off memory, CD's could take Dragon Ogres). What I'd do would be to recast them more as an independent evil army.
With an emphasis on infernal machines like juggernauts, gargoyles (like the one in Heroquest... aah, happy memories) and golems. It would also give them an opportunity to shift more Hellcannons (knowing GW, they'd recast it in plastic and make it both a special and rare choice  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 13:52:41
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Agamemnon2 wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Yeah, but evil Dwarves with giant 'ats and Assyrrian beard is!
They wouldn't even have to be overtly a Chaos, they don't worship any of the major gods, and their armylist doesn't share all that many units with the other Chaos lists (going off memory, CD's could take Dragon Ogres). What I'd do would be to recast them more as an independent evil army.
Dragon Ogres? You sure you aren't thinking of Bull Centaurs?
Chaos Dwarfs had a lot of 'slave' units (and could even get a unit of Black Orcs too, I think) that would come from the O&G book, but they had a lot of unique stuff too. And their god was sort of a 5th Chaos God, I guess...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 16:13:48
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote:Chaos Dwarfs had a lot of 'slave' units (and could even get a unit of Black Orcs too, I think) that would come from the O&G book, but they had a lot of unique stuff too. And their god was sort of a 5th Chaos God, I guess...
The 5th would be Malal.
And then there's the Horned Rat for a 6th (or 13th).
Newly-added would be the Great Maw of the Ogres.
And then add the CD as an 8th? OK, sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 17:36:02
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Dominating Dominatrix
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That would make more sense since the symbol of chaos is an 8-pointed star.
Though the Great Maw is rather new I thought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 18:03:33
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Phanobi
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The Great Maw goes back to early WHFRP. The Chaos Dwarves worship Hashut. I remember once where the minor gods (Hashut, Great Maw, Horned Rat) were kind of combinations of the major gods. So for the Horned Rat you get a mish mash of Tzeentch and Nurgle, for Hashut Khorne and Tzeentch, Great Maw is Nurgle and Khorne, etc.
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 18:13:09
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Hollismason wrote:The announcement will be heralded by a great swarm of locusts with Lions heads blotting out the mid day sun. As a cacophony of voices read lamentations from Debate and Discussion threads on hating Games Workshop in E Minor.
Then a long line of nonbelievers their naked emaciated bodies bound with chains made of pewter from melted down Squat figures will drag a stone ark from the sea and as their eyes brim with tears as they are forced to light the funeral pyre of all second edition codexes known to man announcing and heralding the great rebirth of the beast known as Jervis Johnson.
As the great Stone Ark doors opens the foul bloated form of Jervis will emerge atop the backs of the few female wargamers his bloated distended stomache writhing with the hidden masses of genetic creations that Gamesworkshop developed with price increases over the previous years.
His mass will be laid upon the beach and as he squats he will birth the first slayer of man the Genestealer from his elephantine quivering stretched anus signaling the end of all mankind.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hollismason wrote:Midget Kit; retails for 299.99 you buy it open the box and he jumps out with a hammer smashes all of your models and rapes your cat. Expect the next 3 years of white dwarf dedicated to taking care of your midget.
I LOVE YOU MAN!
i laughed so hard I nearly puked on my keyboard!
but its definitely got to be space hulk. Back with overwatch or whatever its called. who's bloody idea was that in the first place? If i don't move then next turn when they move I can blow them to pieces with my overpowered guns!
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Manchu wrote: This is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone says, "it won't change so why should I bother to try?" and then it doesn't change so people feel validated in their bad behavior.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 18:31:54
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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same here.
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95% of teens would go into a panic attack if the jonas brothers were about to jump off the empire state building copy and paste this if you are the 5% who would pull up a lawn chair grab some popcorn and yell JUMP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mekboy wrote:Tzeentch: Full house! Yay!
Deciver: Straight Flush! Yay!
Eldrad: Four of a kind! Awww!
Creed: Warhound titan. Die, xenos scum!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 18:52:34
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ozymandias wrote:The Great Maw goes back to early WHFRP.
So does Malal, IIRC.
Ozymandias wrote:The Chaos Dwarves worship Hashut. I remember once where the minor gods (Hashut, Great Maw, Horned Rat) were kind of combinations of the major gods. So for the Horned Rat you get a mish mash of Tzeentch and Nurgle, for Hashut Khorne and Tzeentch, Great Maw is Nurgle and Khorne, etc.
The Hashut and Great Maw are OK, as they're on the peripheray, but the Horned Rat is a problem - does he hate himself vor being a mixture of Nurgle and Tzeentch?
And what of Khaine?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 18:59:43
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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Nurgle, Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Khorne, Malal, Hashut, Great Maw, Horned Rat? 8?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 19:09:33
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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If Space Hulk = Limited Edition, will that then gain it automatic entry into Waaagh_Gonads' "FAIL" thread?
It would seem to be a foolish move by GW...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 19:17:22
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wait and see?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 20:03:14
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Fixture of Dakka
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BrookM wrote:Wait and see?
 Honestly Brook, 99% of threads in the News and Rumours forum revolve around our inability to wait and see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 20:07:10
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Pyre Troll
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i predict it won't be space hulk......it will instead be an almost but not quite the same game called space heap
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 20:13:28
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Flashman wrote:BrookM wrote:Wait and see?
 Honestly Brook, 99% of threads in the News and Rumours forum revolve around our inability to wait and see.
I know, but every time people take it in their heads that some form of extreme is the supposed norm without any form of confirmation I just want to... something.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 20:21:38
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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BrookM wrote:Flashman wrote:BrookM wrote:Wait and see?
 Honestly Brook, 99% of threads in the News and Rumours forum revolve around our inability to wait and see.
I know, but every time people take it in their heads that some form of extreme is the supposed norm without any form of confirmation I just want to... something.
You could try...relaxing?
Anyway, well said Flashman!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 21:04:49
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote:BrookM wrote:Flashman wrote:BrookM wrote:Wait and see?
 Honestly Brook, 99% of threads in the News and Rumours forum revolve around our inability to wait and see.
I know, but every time people take it in their heads that some form of extreme is the supposed norm without any form of confirmation I just want to... something.
You could try...relaxing?
Anyway, well said Flashman!
But but but but, the internet, she means business!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 21:34:58
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Phanobi
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JohnHwangDD wrote:Ozymandias wrote:The Great Maw goes back to early WHFRP.
So does Malal, IIRC.
Ozymandias wrote:The Chaos Dwarves worship Hashut. I remember once where the minor gods (Hashut, Great Maw, Horned Rat) were kind of combinations of the major gods. So for the Horned Rat you get a mish mash of Tzeentch and Nurgle, for Hashut Khorne and Tzeentch, Great Maw is Nurgle and Khorne, etc.
The Hashut and Great Maw are OK, as they're on the peripheray, but the Horned Rat is a problem - does he hate himself vor being a mixture of Nurgle and Tzeentch?
And what of Khaine?
The Horned Rat is aspects of Nurgle and Tzeentch not both fully. Khaine is Khorne and Slaanesh. Think of the big 4 as a Venn diagram and where they overlap you get the minor gods with attributes of both.
Malal sits outside this as he is the aspect of Chaos that hates Chaos. Maybe he's the part of the diagram where all four converge.
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 21:40:00
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Its not fishman!
But inhabitant / creature from Sea of Chaos.
something like this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 21:44:34
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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OK, I'm good with that, and would see Malal as outside the diagram in the same way that Human and Elven gods are outside.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/30 22:17:58
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Ozymandias wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Ozymandias wrote:The Great Maw goes back to early WHFRP.
So does Malal, IIRC.
Ozymandias wrote:The Chaos Dwarves worship Hashut. I remember once where the minor gods (Hashut, Great Maw, Horned Rat) were kind of combinations of the major gods. So for the Horned Rat you get a mish mash of Tzeentch and Nurgle, for Hashut Khorne and Tzeentch, Great Maw is Nurgle and Khorne, etc.
The Hashut and Great Maw are OK, as they're on the peripheray, but the Horned Rat is a problem - does he hate himself vor being a mixture of Nurgle and Tzeentch?
And what of Khaine?
The Horned Rat is aspects of Nurgle and Tzeentch not both fully. Khaine is Khorne and Slaanesh. Think of the big 4 as a Venn diagram and where they overlap you get the minor gods with attributes of both.
Malal sits outside this as he is the aspect of Chaos that hates Chaos. Maybe he's the part of the diagram where all four converge.
Stop being so smart. I swore I would learn nothing new today, and now I have. Damn you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/01 01:31:10
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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Fixture of Dakka
drinking ale on the ground like russ intended
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But but but youse guys fergot gork & mork.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/01 06:53:36
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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I don't play WHFB, I don't understand!
I still don't think its Space Hulk
PLASTIC THUNDERHAWK!!!!!!!!!!
OR MIDGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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95% of teens would go into a panic attack if the jonas brothers were about to jump off the empire state building copy and paste this if you are the 5% who would pull up a lawn chair grab some popcorn and yell JUMP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mekboy wrote:Tzeentch: Full house! Yay!
Deciver: Straight Flush! Yay!
Eldrad: Four of a kind! Awww!
Creed: Warhound titan. Die, xenos scum!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/01 14:01:02
Subject: Super secret new GW project???
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Malal is a chaos god but hates chaos? is he like the emogoth kid all the other gods pick on?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/01 14:27:00
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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[DCM]
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Malal has been dropped from the modern fluff.
Partially owing to a legal dispute with the guys who wrote some of the early fluff for GW and copyright/pwnership.
Also GW dropped most of the "Gods of Law" and so on to furtehr separate them from Moorcock et al, and also as it's a dumb idea.
They throw little teases into their games every now and again-- the dreadaxe from the previous chaos codex for example and the recent heroes of the space marines book has the Sons of Malice doing some stuff that some people have taken as involving Malal in some form-- they use his sacred number and some of the terms they use are Malal..err... ian ?ite ? In origin. Possibly.
He wasn't mentioned at all in the ROC books. Weirdly the "new" chaos god they invent in the LatD gets a passing mention in the new Grey Seer novel ! there's even a reference to a "magnin" throwing knife too if your fluff lore goes back that far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/01 15:28:06
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Flashman wrote:...gargoyles (like the one in Heroquest... aah, happy memories)...
That'd be amazing! I'd totally buy HeroQuest Gargoyles if they cast a similar model. Good stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/01 16:19:41
Subject: Re:Super secret new GW project???
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I can predict with 100% certainty that if something happens to be going on, that within 5 minutes there will be a thread whining about how 'Why didn't they do...' to really spoil things for the rest of us
Meh, I'm sure we'll find out, when we find out
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