Two unknown legions?

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**Manchu**

Xav wrote:Manchu it happens that Bounty the toilet paper you described as the Deamnhunters has changed its name to Plenty, i was trying to be witty but obviously failing.

Are you sure?
Clearly, this is an across-the-pond issue.

**Xav**

Here's an article about it:

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/879655/Bounty-kitchen-towel-renamed-Plenty/

An 8mill campian to show people that there changing there name, guess it didnt work.

**Manchu**

Well, as I was trying to say, the name only changed in the UK not in the US. We still have Bounty.

**Xav**

What a strange world we live in, i couldnt read your link internet pretty slow, back to crazy theories on the missing legions, what if they were never found, and joined other legions?

I mean they would delete them because it would be pretty weird 2 legions no primarchs.

**Manchu**

Well, that's a good point. Whether or not the Primarchs were found, there were two other standing legions at the beginning of the Great Crusade. Now what became of all those Space Marines? There is no hint in the HH books that they were incorporated into the others. I think it stands to reason that over the course of the 200 years between the launching of the Crusades and the Heresy, those legions were destroyed. I'm not sure if it was by the Emperor (and by his own "hands"--the Custodes and Sisters of Silence) or by external threats, like Chaos. Wouldn't it be something if the Eldar were responsible for one or both's disappearance? What if them being missing has something to do with Emperor's plan for the Webway?

**Xav**

We know the primarchs are prone to mutation, eldar revenge steal a primarch that hasnt been found yet, and then mutate him horrible.

**Emperors Faithful**

Are the primarchs PRONE to mutation? Or were Magnus and Sanguinius MADE that way? I've certainly found nothing fluffwise that favours either option. Although the Emprah ignores both mutations, either making him a loving reasonable father, or he had planned thier mutation from the start.

**Manchu**

Emperors Faithful wrote:Although the Emprah ignores both mutations, either making him a loving reasonable father, or he had planned thier mutation from the start.

You're very well spoken today, EF. I like!

**Emperors Faithful**

What? You mean I'm not always logical/reasonable/funny/witty/smart/wise?!?

**Xav**

Sangiuas was mutated landed on planet near eye of terror.

I mean serious tenticales etc.

What if one was found by chaos raiders, found the primarch sees what he is, and takes him, like the astral claws, could be running around outer space now raiding planets.

**Manchu**

Maybe the Emperor's plan for the Webway was a partial success and two whole legions with their primarchs are waiting there for the end of the world when the starchild will come forth to conquer the warp, slay the void dragon, and save all humanity forever!

Haha, Thorian enough for you?

**Xav**

Where does the webway lead?

**Manchu**

All over the place. The Eldar use it rather than the Warp.

**Emperors Faithful**

Perhaps they charged through the webway, but were cut off. And now are stranded in some remote part of the universe, with realms similar to Ultramar (the one thing Ultramarines can get right), cut off by savage storms? (or whatever lurks in the ghoul/halo stars)

**Xav**

Isnt there some big warp storm covering like 20% of the galaxy the emporer storm or something, the webway collaposed as two full legions went through to gather survivers and bring them back through the webway. But suddenly Magnus pyshic cummicates with the emporer and put pyshic holes in the webways the Custodes rus through to fight the rampaging demons in side the webway, but alas cant hold them off and it closes.

This might be the first turn the webway feths up, must have happened a few times before they closed it for good.

**Emperors Faithful**

Actually, I have solid fluff (white dwarf = solid, right?) that when magnus used sorcery to warn the Emprah, it broke all the protective barriers. So yes, Magnus could easily be the cuase of the webway becoming contaminated/collapsing, and would also explain why Emprah was so furious and sent Russ after him. (For EDIT: all the Emprah knew, MAgnus had broken his oath and gotten 2 of his bros and thier legions killed) Good thinking Xav.

**Xav**

So we have two possible theories:

Webway collaopse and primarchs never found, any more possible theories.

**Emperors Faithful**

um, that's 1 theory.

There is another that, according to Horus, one of the primarchs was a stillborn.
I am also of the opinion that Sigmar is one of lost primarchs. Some backwater fuedal world...somewhere.

**Xav**

Ops forgot about stillborn so:

Webway collaopse, stillborn primarch and sigmar.

**Emperors Faithful**

That makes 3.
Also, possiblilty of a FEMALE primarch? (prepare for murderous onsluaght)
Perhaps the same one from the deamon codex...with the little black dog?

**ChaoticOrkz**

CajunMan550 wrote:The only reason any one race is ever a threat is because they are cuppled with all the other threats in the Imperium. There is no one Enemy the Imperium couldn't beat sept maybe tyranids but thats maybe. The imperium out mans and out anythings any race.

You cant kill us Orkiez our spores keep us going! we will rule the galaxy!!!!!

"We is gonnas stomp da universe flat and kill anyfink that fights back. We're da Orks, and we was made to fight and win."-Ghazghkull Thraka

**Manchu**

Orks are so gross.

**Emperors Faithful**

If it was solely Imperium Vs soley Orksies. Imperium would pwn.

**ChaoticOrkz**

You might like this one better

"The orks plague the galaxy from end to end with their ceaseless warring and strife. They are a race rooted so deeply in war that peace is utterly incomprehensible to them. They cannot be bargained with or bought to save with weapons that they will inevitably turn against those who tried to bribe them. I pray with all my faith that some great catastrophe will annihilate them but i fear that ulitmately it is they, not we, who shall rule the galaxy." - Xanthius, High Lord of Terra

**Xav**

Emperors Faithful wrote:If it was solely Imperium Vs soley Orksies. Imperium would pwn.

700,000 Space marines, and about 10 Billion Guard vs maybe i dont know alot of orks?

The campain would last for years, you cant fit that many orks onto a planet.

**Emperors Faithful**

But the High Lord of Terra is kind of taking into account all the other foes the Imperium must face. If the Imperium wasn't beset on all sides, orks would be finding their asses getting a serious amount of pwnage.

**ChaoticOrkz**

Emperors Faithful wrote:If it was solely Imperium Vs soley Orksies. Imperium would pwn.

heres my answer to that

"Orkses is never beaten in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die so it don't count as beat. If we runs for it we don't die neither, so we can always come back for anuvver go, see!"- Anon

**Emperors Faithful**

*sigh*
This is getting of topic. But I'll explain it agian.
If you're dead...you LOSE. If this was true, then NO ONE in 40k would EVA lose.

**ChaoticOrkz**

If you're dead...you LOSE. If this was true, then NO ONE in 40k would EVA lose.

It's only true for Orkies but i agree this is getting off topic.
So how about them missing legions?
Im sure they just decided to take a break from all their hardwork and went to some popular vacation spot.
Possibly a world with lava pits so they can relax in the hot vapors.

**Xav**

There must be billions of orks if not trillions, and taking into account that in fluff a guard gets owned by orks.

6 foot muscly monsters stand in front of you with a bloody axe would you stand your ground.