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@Vitru: My expectations were different, because I never thought the tank would part of her, I thought it would just like a cell. So I mainly tried to visualize a female techpriest and how it would be converted. Your sketches on the other hand focus on her "suit".
It's a good ideale through, reminds me of the 54mm techpriest on a defiler body I startend aeons ago.
I'm looking forward to it. One word of warning through, I'm a little concerned about what's happening inside the tank:
The DE's pose doesn't look like it's floating, so you need to come up with a proper solution for that in order to prevent it fromm looking like a DE wizard stuffed in a tank. Could be complicated.
My first idea was use her split legged pose to putin her in suspension. E.g. cuffs for her hands and feet, you would just have to replace the arm with the staff with a straight one and bend the other arm upwards.
what were you're plans so far?


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Written from my mobile which has an auto correct function that drives me crazy. Instead of that it always puts "thatcher" and put becomes "putin".

Bear in mind these are concept sketches, very wip. The sorceress is really just a placeholder in that pic, i liked the design on the tank as it was the first time i managed to make it look integrated with the rest of the walker.

Also i cant draw people, especially faces! So i didnt really sketch any of the actual tech priest!!

Cuffs/limb "plugins" were my first idea too, now im leaning towards literally floating unsupported.

Haha! You have a very politicallly minded phone...

I will say Vit's design made me open my eyes a fair bit. That is a lot more than the mage itself but I'm curious to see how you do the tank the thing will be in!

And I folded. I joined the other one because the Necromancer is way too good to pass up with the ideas in my head. Seriously looking forward to see how you guys progress with this.

And Baiyuan? Your phone is conservative? Wha?!

Well the hangover is almost gone and i can see much clearer now never got chance to say thanks for the compliments last night , so ..thanks for the compliments
i should stress that these pics are only concepts , not definate on the final look for her, i have a few other ideas i would like to play around with too, but you get the direction i am taking...

@ Izanagi , hope your not as hung over as i am mate a mcdonalds vegiburger and large fries has gone somewhat a ways in clearing it up though look forward to seeing your concepts when you rouse

@PDH monsieur with these ferrero rocher you are really spoling us


The arms might be tricky becuase the ones i have seen are armoured , may end up sculpting one if it does'nt sit right. But i have seen 3 versions though, i am really looking forward to sculpting the tentacle skirt/hair, though a bit scared becuase of the tiny size of the dark elf. ithink it will push me to the limits tbh. But the legs are my greatest fear, i wanted to convert the original legs , but i doubt it will be possible , will have to go with a new set i think , would really rather not try sculpting them lots of trial and error i think. i realise shes not that ambitious , I wanted to retain her sexuality without loosing the amazing uperbody silloutte of the original figure. , still undecided as to what head to go with

@Jackanory , thank you , and ditto , your picture is scary mate, love the direction , lts so grimdark already. such detail and that only one pice of the puzzle. when i saw the face i instantly thought of this miniature as the head.

i agree with peter about the nose tube and the lenses are a very original idea too cant wait to see how you implement them . its getting so close now.....rubs hands
oh and Baiyuan is of course right a chain whip , or chain flail, in the dark eldar book there called weighted flails , i actually might custom make the blade if i can better the gw one.

@Baiyuan reveal reveal reveal, i want to know what savage doggy your working on.... oh hang on ... is it a cerberus? that would be pretty awesome
i should have know you would instantly know your wapons yep hagashin it is , although the sourges have one also , which is a little longer and more effeminate.
nice find with http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MI-9

@Vit i am really enjoying this teaser part of the comp, i am making the most of it because when it comes to converting Baiyuan is gonna blow us all out of the water with his insane attention to detail , and then Peter is gonna go Michealangelo on our behinds with the brush work I actually cant wait to see what people build and i really hope to learn some painting tachniques through this project .

Your arch magos is very ambitious, i would have never though of that in a million years love the little attention to detail shots in the concept art. and liking the bold mechanicus colours too. Is the seraphine going to have mechanical arms attachted to the body? I really like the idea that Baiyuan suggested about looking like she is chained to the beast too.
i saw some imolator parts that made me think of your Veneratus
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/bloodcrusher-chains-x5-p-6778.html
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/bloodcrusher-juggernaught-collar-c-p-6771.html
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/immolator-pilot-legs-p-7140.html
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/witch-hunters-immolator-parts-c-6_61_78.html
also remided me of this ina way http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Penitent_Engine


@pdh , i weigh enough for you never to have to worry about your mortgage again

@Baiyuan man i hate moble phones they never work as they should , putin and maggie , what do you get for RAY GUN

very atmospheric fluff too , i think your model will be pretty bold when done

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You must be still hungover! You seemed to cut off at the end there!

I'm a little concerned my conversion might not blow anyone out of anything. I keep hav6ing second thoughts whether it's too simple, because I'll be keeping most of the base model, but it's what I saw in the sorceress right from the beginning. So I'll stick with it and we will see in a couple of weeks.

It's not a cerberus, even though Beowulf suggested calling it Fluffy, when I told him about it, he hasn't seen it though. The only other hint you'll get before my next fluff installment, is that it features wh40k alien technology for which I destroyed kits worth 55€ and that the base model is something fresh, since it's not from GW.

Baiyuan wrote:I'm a little concerned my conversion might not blow anyone out of anything. I keep hav6ing second thoughts whether it's too simple, because I'll be keeping most of the base model, but it's what I saw in the sorceress right from the beginning. So I'll stick with it and we will see in a couple of weeks.

People often underestimate the power of a simple conversion. No second thoughts. An effective simple conversion is bound to be impressive in itself!

Morning everyone... this is what sucks about not having dakka come as one the infopoints on my HUD... although that would have possibly killed me driving after having a few as a teen (which I totally can't do anymore, having lost my invincibility, good looks, and luck years ago)... too many responses.

Ok... from the top-

@Baiyuan - hmm... didn't think of a spider-fluidtank base, but that also sounds extremely interesting. Either way, if Vit can capture that tank and a CLEAR figure... yea, it's gonna be good. And what's this about doubting your conversion? Is it because it's going out of your specialty of guns and tech? Or there'll be less on there that makes it feel worthwhile? Go at it, man. I'm sure it'll be amazing.

@Vitruvian - thanks for the reference pics! I'm excited to see your (and everyone elses', for that matter) WIPs leading up to the final project. This'll be a treasure trove of new/experimental techniques, methinks when it's finished.

@ DarkStarSabre- Seconded. That tank is gonna be crazy.

@ Peter- don't know if you responded or not, as I only see the last page... and I'm running on about 2 hours of sleep. Good morning.

@Neil - Mmmm.... vegiburger... I had a regional menu item during a stay in Prague, a McZorba... standard cheeseburger minus the all-american fillings, instead soft feta cheese, tzaziki sauce and a cucumber slice... I dreamed about a McZorba yesterday night. And no, I didn't drink as much, enough to get buzzed and mellow out on a short 7 minute walk home.


As to my own projects- I have what was asked for. Would you care for fluff first? Or concept that will solidify your images of my work in stone? (only to be shattered when my horribly inadequate modelling skills butcher it?) If you ask for fluff, the update will take... about an hour as I fabricate the story from my head. If pictures... about 10 minutes. Let me know.

-Remi (falling asleep in my office)

My vote: Fluff, keep me suspended a little longer.

I myself won't reveal anything before saturday.

LOL... fluff first, it is.

I'll keep you hanging for... an hour longer. I meant that I'll be putting up both together or pics first as I already had them, so you've bought yourself an hour.

-Remi

Fluuuuuuuff.

And here you go! I've spoiler'd the pics, in case you want to resist the reveal... but yea, concept and fluff, as requested. It's a WIP, even in sketch mode, the head and feet, in particular I'm still researching. Either way, I've committed myself to this idea, as I think this will really push the limits of the model and all applicable skills I have to make something awesome.


The Dark Passenger

They were close now… an advance hunting party… my prey. He wanted a better look.

Like an ancient Terran gecko, he leapt towards a wall, shimmying his way up several meters with a sound like a piece of paper going through a silent turbine. He crawled into the upper floors of what might have been a large human gathering place. It was completely blasted out, yet in some strange twist of fate, a stained glass window had been left nearly intact, casting colors unto the center of the rubble-dusted floor, a circle of warmth against the cold concrete. From here, he peered out to what was left of the streets, now flooded with debris, at his hunters.

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“What do you think we’ll find?” one of the motley crew wondered aloud into his helmet mike.

“Think of it as treasure-hunting. Whatever we find, the target hid from us this long. That means tech. If we’re lucky, it means hi-tech. VERY-LUCKY, and we get us a still-warm woman wearing the gear.” Another grumbled, as others chuckled. All grunted in agreement as one toyed his crotch in anticipation.

“Shaddap... He’s here, somewhere..” the leader growled as he pumped a fist back to his team. The team was trained but moved clumsily into cover, concealing itself upon command.

“Boss?” one of the team echoed. “Vox from command. Sending it through.”

The lead figure put two fingers to the side of his helmet, opening the channel and keeping it on auto. The message streamed clearly through, with little to no static…

**ka-shh** Terg, we’ve lost the target. Repeat **shh**is not on radar…

“What should we do?” The comm’d merc whispered. Others looked about, and then to their leader.

“We’re not finished yet.. unless you want it following us home.” the Terg said tersely.

His men noticeably bristled when he changed the ‘he’ to an ‘it’. A xeno… a beautiful Eldar woman, perhaps? Or so their minds held to that fleeting hope. The image of Tyranids quickly spread through the crew, destroying any hopes of tech or alleviating loneliness. Tyranids… despite the fact that this planet had never been infested nor seen their like, the idea stabbed them in the back, bleeding out whatever bravado they had. They froze as if they hit an invisible wall upon hearing a faint but intense flutter- the sound of blades cutting air faster than the eye could see, followed by distant rubble clacking echoes. Their eyes immediately darted to and fro, taking note of all angles, the ground, as well as the buttresses and upper floors of the ravaged plaza buildings.

Various weapons energized and racked, shadows stretched in the fire of the afternoon sun… while directly behind them, their prey watched from above, one of the gargoyles adorning the cathedral come to life…





-Remi

Good story, good concept. The only part I'm not to fond of is the gun, it looks too mundane, bolter-like. I'd vote for a techy alien gun, but you know me and guns...

Being somewhat familiar with mantidae due to my martial arts style, I can recommend some badass looking types. Most people only know the mantis religiosa or the tenodera aridifolia sinensis, which both look rather boring. But there are some that look so alien, it's hard to believe. My favorites are the blepharopsis mendica, empusa pennata, pseudocreobotra whalbergii/pictipennis, phyllocrania paradoxa, deroplatys dessicata, gongylus gongylodes and hymenopus coronatus.

Besides they do not just provide ideas for modelling. Look at their camouflage, who could think of such color schemes? Normal people would say it's ridiculous, totally unrealistic...

Some sample pictures of them:

Baiyuan wrote:Good story, good concept. The only part I'm not to fond of is the gun, it looks too mundane, bolter-like. I'd vote for a techy alien gun, but you know me and guns...

Being somewhat familiar with mantidae due to my martial arts style, I can recommend some badass looking types. Most people only know the mantis religiosa or the tenodera aridifolia sinensis, which both look rather boring. But there are some that look so alien, it's hard to believe. My favorites are the blepharopsis mendica, empusa pennata, pseudocreobotra whalbergii/pictipennis, phyllocrania paradoxa, deroplatys dessicata, gongylus gongylodes and hymenopus coronatus.

Besides they do not just provide ideas for modelling. Look at their camouflage, who could think of such color schemes? Normal people would say it's ridiculous, totally unrealistic...

Thanks! Glad you liked it. And you caught me on the guns... I had no idea, all I knew was that they would be Tau-elegant uzi-like pistols to match the body-plate, but then I remembered I haven't seen Tau guns in... years. Definitely will be working on that.

I'm definitely sold on the Mantis head though. The triangular look is too cool to pass up. Plus the Vespid (aka Wasps) are triangular headed too, IRL. LOL, holy crap. I've never seen those ones before. The pink one with the feathery antennae appeal to me the most, both color-wise and shape. The blue wonder in the last pic, or the one right before it... those guys caught my attention for Vespid head-shape. No idea as to color scheme, but great examples here. Great references, and you have my thanks!

-Remi

-Remi

The one with the featherlike antennae and the pink color is an Empusa Pennata.

You're welcome, gave me the chance to think back and test my memory with the zoological names.

Thanks guys...

@DSS: The tank is gonna be the pivotal part aye, need to find a suitable bit so i can work on integrating it properly.

@neil: It should be fun, if i can pull it off It is similar i suppose to a penitent engine, only far more high-tech and polished. We're talking about technology from before the Heresy, from the birth of the Imperium even. Yeah it will have arms, and guns Being one of the founders of the AdMech you kinda have to go bold..

@Izanagi: Great fluff Remi, nice concepts as well. I think it would be cool if you changed the head from "Vespid" to something a little more alien and unrecognised, those mantidae are wicked as well

Heres some tau weapons for your perusal:

- http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/138/e/c/tau_small_arms_by_hughtheindestructibl.jpg
- http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4nzgPbHlNo4/S8sefuhSV7I/AAAAAAAAHuY/nln1nj-J-iI/s1600/tau-suit-2010-02.jpg
- http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Z472mqw2unY/TCRm4gEz6RI/AAAAAAAAAhk/ZmoktjcZ2GY/s1600/tau-suit-2010-03.jpg

And some cool ones:

- http://www.planetgundam.com/futureimperfect/blog/FIprofiles/gp00_smg.jpg
- http://www.fallingpixel.com/products/760/mains/preview_Gun03.jpg
- http://www.digitalarmadagamestudios.com/mod_images/Chain_Gun_For_Web_2.jpg

Jees where to start!

Vitruvian XVII - stop it dude. It's all going to be fun and its all going to shine. Everyone will be bringing something to the table.

The background is nice. I especially like "In the gloomy depths of a rusted Manufactorum complex the beam of light picked up motes of dust, disturbed from their centuries-long rest by the grav repulsion engine as the small skull whirred along. "

Baiyuan - I always saw her in the tank. I'm intrigued as to how he is going to pull it off though, will be interesting. Oh hi Vit sorry for talking like you're not here

I'm sure you're conversion work will be fine. I'm not even changing the pose on mine. I should have him done by the 20th July . In all seriousness though my conversion work will be mainly cosmetic. I like the model so much I want to change his function not the model (if that makes sense).

Neil - You posted your hangover was almost done at 12.44. Hmmmm you guys didn't do it right last night

Thanks for turning me in to a hot blonde blond though, now whenever anyone pictures me they will think hot blonde women! PM your address I'm going to send you a cash 4 gold addressed body bag.

HF Izanagi - Good evening I think I responded....or have I missed something. Oh hang on I messed up your name lol.

PDH said HZ- Man I wanna see it.....I really like where its going. Hurry up September. I'm rather fond of the vespid models, though they are a little static for flying aliens. Hopefully any new ones will be in plastic and look better than the DE Scourge.

The new update. I'm fond of the concept picture though I'm not seeing how you'll be changing the sorcerer to look like that, nice. The latest bit of background I'm not so fond of, the implications of what the mercenaries would do in if they catch a hot eldar women. It reminded me of that diorama of the Imperial Guard tank crew about to rape the eldar guardian (not a nice diorama imo). Leaving that aside I am liking the build up to the massive acts of violence that will surely be coming. The final line has got me hooked.

I'm with you that the pinky red one is a good colour. It would contrast very nicely with some white armour plates.

Peter

Oh hi Peter....! Thanks, defnitely will be interesting. COME ON SATURDAY!

Oh come on, you mean you wouldnt if an eldar female was taken captive.... I see it as coarse mercenaries having a bit of banter. Got a link to the dio...? (just kidding)

It's on cmon somewhere. When I found it I was a little shocked. Don't get me wrong I'm not especially sensitive to the whole wartime rape topic, I know it happens in every war and normal people do incredible things in situtations with a special dynamic, it still felt wrong. People were simply getting too much satisfaction out of it, the comments were mostly slowed and it didn't seem like sending a message about an inhumane humanity was among the creator's motives.
It's like all those anti-war movies, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now etc., I appreciated them all, as intended some scenes shocked me, most sent a clear message about the terrors of war and nevertheless 50% of the guys watching them only learned one thing from it: "tease the fat bitch enough and he shoots himself, hurray!"

If you need to see it:


Now back to what HF wrote: I'm having Peter's back about the diorama, but the trash talk of the mercenaries isn't against my moral values. Unlike the diorama HF didn't make it the central statement of his creative process. It's fluff and thus it should mirror a form of reality. It's more than likely, that those traumatized morons dream of eldar pussy all day, just to forget the last time they got fethed by the nids. I liked that part btw, when their wet juvenile dreams were shattered by the possible nid threat.
Maybe the only reason Peter was a little offended, was because he thought of the diorama when he read the lines, which I did as well btw., but I didn't see it as a core element of the story.

Lol i was actually joking.

That is a bit wrong i agree. Especially the guy undoing his belt... :s Cant deny its well painted and modelled though. [A small part of me is thinking her facial expression should be far more distressed, not just a bit miffed ]

Btw, this is a description of an Arch-Magos Veneratus:

The ancient Archmagos Veneratus are the original tech-priests who codified the Mysteries and Warnings of the Cult Mechanicus over ten millennia ago. As age and technological advancement stripped them of their humanity, so they became more detatched from the day-to-day affairs of the Mechanicus and spent longer periods of time in solitude musing on the destiny of humanity. Occasionally, an Archmagos Veneratus will arrive without warning to take command of a Skitarii Legio. They are answerable to no one, not even the Fabricator General. Their word is lore and their reasons for involving themselves are unfathomable, much like the exotic battlesuits that they pilot into battle.

@ HF Izanagi , Lovely concept art , lots of nice movement and flow.

The fluff is cool too , i really like that there are loads of differnt aprocahes allready, i think the vespid is a great choice , but i too fail to see, how the dark eldar can be turned into that lovely art work maybe you could use her as a tau conscript or prisoner alongside the vespid? but i am looking forward to the vespid regardless . i think its a totally original idea
that will look great .
Have you seen the AE bounty miniatures ? some of them have a similar alien design . or the combined from Infinity miniatures? the paint jobs on those are just stupidly good
looks like you have found some nice bits to make it up from scratch though

http://www.arcaneminiatures.co.uk/ae-bounty.asp
http://www.arcaneminiatures.co.uk/combined-army-miniatures.asp?offset=0













@ baiyuan , nice list of latin insects mate. Good research stuff that

went into games workshop today , picked up some bits i had my eye on for the rest of the Lillitu coven, i asked if they had any minis in stock yet but they told me to get lost
come back at 9 am saturday worth a try
roll on saturday peeps

Mines been shipped! Yay

@neil: I think Izanagi's going to be ussing the Tzeentch sorcerer?

I think Baiyuan said it perfectly.

I didn't take it to be central to the story... but it was the part that most stood out to me...due to that diorama. I know it happens irl but it isn't something I would want to read about in fiction. I understand that it was meant as banter between the characters. I assume to make the reader dislike the group, so when they get their comeuppance it will be all the more sweet....HF make it bloody

The main reason I didn't like it is because as part of my job I've dealt with a number of women who have been attacked and suffered from differing levels of domestic violence. This is not the place to be discussing this though.

Peter


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Neil I've not seen those before and I want these two.



They are so cool, reminds me of star wars aliens.

Vitruvian XVII - I like the idea your tech priest is 10 thousand years old. Is it something you came up with or have you read about them somewhere?

I <3 my FLGS:

@Vit: Don't you dare receiving your package before saturday, you'll have an angry mob at your house with me leading it!
About the diorama, it actually allows for a "happy" end, being as quick as eldar are supposed to be, I'm sure she could use that knife in the mud next to her to cut off a couple of wieners...

@HF: Neil has a point, but AE Bounty doesn't just have nice miniatures, they also have a pack of alien looking guns (which I happen to own):


@Neil: Thanks, just from the top of my head.


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@everybody: Come on let's beat up Jack!

jackanory - you lucky bugger.

See, this is why you should support local business!
Right, I've got mold lines to clean...

Baiyuan - I think the thread title needs changing again.

Jackanory - I wholeheartedly agree that you should support local businesses. Unfortunately here in sunny Preston there is a GW, Railway model shop and a scary roleplay/magic shop (that strangely doesn't do a side line in any miniatures). Besides I've got GW gift vouchers