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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 00:19:11
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
East Coast
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So i may have missed it somewhere but can someone give me a link to the list of stores and their top 3?
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'When in deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
Wave your arms and shout.'
-Parody of the Litany of Command,
popular among commissar cadets |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 00:19:49
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Powerful Ushbati
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Chosen Praetorian wrote:So i may have missed it somewhere but can someone give me a link to the list of stores and their top 3?
Its on the same page as the prelim's!
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 00:23:27
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
East Coast
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Tomb King wrote:Chosen Praetorian wrote:So i may have missed it somewhere but can someone give me a link to the list of stores and their top 3?
Its on the same page as the prelim's!
Lol im dumb but i found it!
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'When in deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
Wave your arms and shout.'
-Parody of the Litany of Command,
popular among commissar cadets |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 20:14:22
Subject: Re:Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
San Jose, CA
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Legends (Cupertino, CA) called today to request I email my army list by next Monday so it can be verified by Saturday.
If you are playing there and have not received this request, I suggest you call (408) 253-2643 or 253-2601 to make sure your name has not fallen through the cracks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 20:31:18
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Tomb King wrote:i disagree. I hate dawn of war deployment. whether I am playing an assault army or not. If I am playing my assault army it is too easy to get to my opponent and they dont stand a chance unless I roll bad. If I am playing my shooting builds then again it just gives a considerable advantage to assault based armies.
The reason for dawn of war is to make the game more dynamic. Parking lot armies hate DoW, but parking lot armies also aren't very fun or dynamic to play against.
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Warhammer, one of a few games where Yahtzee is possible and not always a good thing
GENERATION 9: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.
Armys:
-Fast'N'Slow Bikers- (5 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 21:08:58
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Powerful Ushbati
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ToI wrote:Tomb King wrote:i disagree. I hate dawn of war deployment. whether I am playing an assault army or not. If I am playing my assault army it is too easy to get to my opponent and they dont stand a chance unless I roll bad. If I am playing my shooting builds then again it just gives a considerable advantage to assault based armies.
The reason for dawn of war is to make the game more dynamic. Parking lot armies hate DoW, but parking lot armies also aren't very fun or dynamic to play against.
Maybe I am just old school. I started in fantasy and every deployment was pitched battle back in the day lol.
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/10 01:34:58
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Ha ha same here TK, back in the days where it was just PB style deployment and victory points.... thats it lol...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/10 05:38:00
Subject: Re:Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/11 04:05:46
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Powerful Ushbati
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They just changed mission three. Now on the top of turn 3 if you roll a D6 and get a 3+ you automatically win the game. Sucks if you go second as you now have a 66% chance of losing.
Just kidding... lol, one week left anyone else ready to get this tournament knocked out already? Cant wait to play this tournament.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/09/11 04:06:28
TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/12 01:01:11
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Im still not sure if ill be allowed to play since they havent fixed the list on prelims final winners.
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
http://inthenameofsangunius.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/12 02:53:10
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
the great white north
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sigh, the store i won at isn't listed either, but the person at my semi's location knows i am in
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Tau theme song: jump around |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 13:13:32
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
East Coast
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Im kinda worried about this winners list thing. I have to drive out of state and if i get down there and i cant play because GW is worthless im gonna be pissed.
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'When in deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
Wave your arms and shout.'
-Parody of the Litany of Command,
popular among commissar cadets |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 13:51:16
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Chosen Praetorian wrote:Im kinda worried about this winners list thing. I have to drive out of state and if i get down there and i cant play because GW is worthless im gonna be pissed.
Yeah, definately call ahead of time to confirm that youre in . I just got word last night from my store's employee that GW confirmed their prelim results, now if the semis location gets that info in time.... who knows.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 14:19:15
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Sergeant First Class
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Chosen Praetorian wrote:Im kinda worried about this winners list thing. I have to drive out of state and if i get down there and i cant play because GW is worthless im gonna be pissed.
TBH you should have called ahead to your store and reserved your spot weeks ago. You don't just show up to one of these things and expect to play. For all you know where you're going is full up on room.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 14:23:27
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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culsandar wrote:Chosen Praetorian wrote:Im kinda worried about this winners list thing. I have to drive out of state and if i get down there and i cant play because GW is worthless im gonna be pissed.
TBH you should have called ahead to your store and reserved your spot weeks ago. You don't just show up to one of these things and expect to play. For all you know where you're going is full up on room.
Yeah, especially at a big location where people want to go. Call Showcase now. (Or PM mikhaila) or do both.
Showing up day of is a recipe for heartache. Heck, I called my location and I'm worried they might have not written it down. I might call again, just to double check.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 14:27:06
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Sergeant First Class
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The store I'm going to has me on their registry list on their website, but they spelled my name wrong.
Then again, so did GW on their list, and they weren't the same misspelling xD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 15:17:34
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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culsandar wrote:The store I'm going to has me on their registry list on their website, but they spelled my name wrong.
Then again, so did GW on their list, and they weren't the same misspelling xD
I am not on the GW list but my FLGS has me signed up. As long as the store you qualified at can confirm with the semi-final location that you are supposed to be playing then the GW list is moot. You should call ahead though for sure. I am playing at Game Empire Pasadena (which doesn't have their winners listed for prelims, but is a semi-final location) and they have reached capacity at this point with 40 players.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 15:34:03
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Fixture of Dakka
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pretre wrote:Showing up day of is a recipe for heartache. Heck, I called my location and I'm worried they might have not written it down. I might call again, just to double check.
I did this, and discovered they didn't have me written down.
It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
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Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 15:39:04
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Janthkin wrote:pretre wrote:Showing up day of is a recipe for heartache. Heck, I called my location and I'm worried they might have not written it down. I might call again, just to double check.
I did this, and discovered they didn't have me written down.
It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Man, you convinced me. I'm calling today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 15:39:53
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Wow, not a single person on either of the Phoenix Games entries is correct for our store. Oh well, I'm signed up properly at Semi Location and if they want they can call and confirm with the Store Owner who ran it
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 15:50:24
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Powerful Ushbati
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Hulksmash wrote:Wow, not a single person on either of the Phoenix Games entries is correct for our store. Oh well, I'm signed up properly at Semi Location and if they want they can call and confirm with the Store Owner who ran it 
Where you gonna end up playing this year Hulk? Will I get my rematch in NE? haha
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 16:06:33
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Nah, I barely signed up to play in the Semi's as it is. I went into the store hosting them on Saturday for a 40k RTT and when I asked if they were full up for the Semi's they had a single spot left so I signed up. It'll be interesting at least but I've reached a point where a 2,500pt army isn't worth a 4 hour drive on way to me  . Especially since all the stores have a pretty large turnout showing up.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 16:26:40
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Powerful Ushbati
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Hulksmash wrote:Nah, I barely signed up to play in the Semi's as it is. I went into the store hosting them on Saturday for a 40k RTT and when I asked if they were full up for the Semi's they had a single spot left so I signed up. It'll be interesting at least but I've reached a point where a 2,500pt army isn't worth a 4 hour drive on way to me  . Especially since all the stores have a pretty large turnout showing up.
Ya I definitely wont be going to the finals if I make it. I dont like the idea of getting 3 massacre's and still losing the tournament lol! Too many people for the final round to be 3 games!
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 17:32:01
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Well that can happen in the Semi's too though. Our store has 42 people that'll be playing. That's 3 Undefeated players at the end of it. Possibly 3 people with max scores so that's why I wouldn't make a long drive. It'll still be a fun day since I'm just gonna put down a ton of something and run with it
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 17:49:30
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Hulksmash wrote:Well that can happen in the Semi's too though. Our store has 42 people that'll be playing. That's 3 Undefeated players at the end of it. Possibly 3 people with max scores so that's why I wouldn't make a long drive. It'll still be a fun day since I'm just gonna put down a ton of something and run with it 
My thinking exactly...I wouldn't drive 5 hours to semis but I will go locally and have fun, and if I win then the better for it. But all together it's just going to be a crazy day
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Warhammer, one of a few games where Yahtzee is possible and not always a good thing
GENERATION 9: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.
Armys:
-Fast'N'Slow Bikers- (5 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 18:12:34
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
NE Ohio
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Looking at the Scenarios, I really think people will be hard pressed to get 3 Massacres, let alone max points in all three.
While a lot of people have grumbled about the scenarios, and i completely agree that they were not written or proofread well.
The level of difficulty to get three Massacres will be rather hard to do. Especially if you play competent opponents. Which we would hope everyone in the Semi's is..
Round 1: While the messenger gives some lee-way with 500 pts, winning by by 1125 VP's will be difficult unless you get a strong vs a weak player. In all honesty this should be the third round scenario. Where you will be matched up against the best players.
Round2: 5+ units more than the opponent, within 6" of the center? A lot of lists in the Prelim's didnt even have 5 scoring units. Lose one and you are out of luck, even if you table your opponent. And MAX points is almost impossible, especially controlling terrain, again unless you table your opponent.
Round 3: With Variable scenarios? The KP mission is by far the easiest, and most likely for massacres, but thats only a 1/3 chance.
I would be really surprised to see many scores over 63..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 18:30:10
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Landrain wrote:Looking at the Scenarios, I really think people will be hard pressed to get 3 Massacres, let alone max points in all three.
While a lot of people have grumbled about the scenarios, and i completely agree that they were not written or proofread well.
The level of difficulty to get three Massacres will be rather hard to do. Especially if you play competent opponents. Which we would hope everyone in the Semi's is..
Round 1: While the messenger gives some lee-way with 500 pts, winning by by 1125 VP's will be difficult unless you get a strong vs a weak player. In all honesty this should be the third round scenario. Where you will be matched up against the best players.
Round2: 5+ units more than the opponent, within 6" of the center? A lot of lists in the Prelim's didnt even have 5 scoring units. Lose one and you are out of luck, even if you table your opponent. And MAX points is almost impossible, especially controlling terrain, again unless you table your opponent.
Round 3: With Variable scenarios? The KP mission is by far the easiest, and most likely for massacres, but thats only a 1/3 chance.
I would be really surprised to see many scores over 63..
I have to say I have been having many of the same thoughts. The second scenario is definitely easier to score a Massacre on if you have SM, BA, or GK because you can combat squad your 6 troop choices into 12. Although they become less survivable it is definitely a good strategy. Massacres will probably not be that common in all 3 rounds.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 18:32:34
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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@landrain:
I think you underestimate a couple things...
One: People getting into semis who will get curbstomped by a good opponent.
Two: The frequency at which tabling can happen at high levels of play for bad match-ups or bad dice rolling.
Three: The ability for really good generals to capitalize on that.
I am not one of those guys from number three, but I know some of them... If given half a chance, they will stomp you into oblivion.
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Rd1: Will probably be most massacres since it is straight VP.
Rd2: Some armies can field 10+ scoring units without damaging efficacy.
Rd3: Crapshoot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 18:55:07
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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pretre wrote:@landrain:
I think you underestimate a couple things...
One: People getting into semis who will get curbstomped by a good opponent.
Two: The frequency at which tabling can happen at high levels of play for bad match-ups or bad dice rolling.
Three: The ability for really good generals to capitalize on that.
I am not one of those guys from number three, but I know some of them... If given half a chance, they will stomp you into oblivion.
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Rd1: Will probably be most massacres since it is straight VP.
Rd2: Some armies can field 10+ scoring units without damaging efficacy.
Rd3: Crapshoot.
Tabling does not automatically mean you get a Massacre. Unless I missed something from the rules packet somewhere that states it does. For example in VPs you would still need to win by the margin to claim a massacre. Likewise in Scenario 2, even with your opponent tabled you would still need 5 scoring units to claim a massacre. That is how I understand tabling to work at least and the way we have always played it.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/13 19:04:03
Subject: Ard Boyz Semi-Finals (Scenarios posted)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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OverwatchCNC wrote:
Tabling does not automatically mean you get a Massacre. Unless I missed something from the rules packet somewhere that states it does. For example in VPs you would still need to win by the margin to claim a massacre. Likewise in Scenario 2, even with your opponent tabled you would still need 5 scoring units to claim a massacre. That is how I understand tabling to work at least and the way we have always played it.
I completely agree that that is how Tabling should work. i.e. you get to play out the rest of the game and try to get the rest of the objectives.
Unfortunately, no tabling rules were provided with the missions so you may end up playing any number of variants including massacres for tabling.
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