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H.B.M.C. wrote:I got banned for agreeing with someone who got a warning.

Yeah.

Harsh...

I'm still not sure why I got the one warning I did.

Never was any context, as I recall I'd posted something from a liberal Christian perspective in a thread between the ultra conservative Christian contingent and the atheist hard core, and a mod who is gone gave me a warning and as I recall deleted my post. I probably would have been happier with it if it ha been explained to me what I'd said that was offensive.


It was a heck of a long time ago though.

poda_t wrote:You know, mods and police are like my parents. They are sick and tired of having to deal with peoples' gak all the time and having to sort out people that should be mature and be able to behave themsevles and deal with things on their own. So instead of trying to get to the bottom of every case, when they get about 10+ cases per day, its simpler to just give everyone five across the eyes and a boot to the backside, and then fetch the bat for anyone that wants to pop their heads up afterward.

Become a parent of at least three kids. I dare you. And I dare you not to react in anger and drop the banhammer on all three of them and actually find out who started it.

and I agree with some of what's been said earlier, dakka dakka has made a slide into worse manners, but thats simply because the user base has grown at a rate with which mod's can't keep up., and every snotfaced tool thinks he can speak however he wants to on the internet just cause he thinks he can hide. I've gotten the warnings and suspensions too. And you know what? They were deserved.

I think this is a really good post myself.

CT GAMER wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:I got banned for agreeing with someone who got a warning.

Yeah.

Harsh...

Context...

WarlordRob117 wrote:I can sympathize completely with you guys who are being banned rediculous amounts of time for a simple disagreement. This kind of modding needs to stop before you have people on here get really nasty and the moderators should be policing up there own in an attempt to remove power hungry individuals who got picked last for playing sports...

'This kind of modding' doesn't happen anywhere near as often as people would have you believe. For one thing, a lot of people will try to downplay whatever it was they did to earn moderator attention. For another, the whole issue that some posters have with warnings or suspensions comes from disagreeing with a moderator's opinion of what constitutes acceptable behaviour. If poster X doesn't think that what he wrote was rude, then clearly the mod is in the wrong...

For the latter, it comes down to this: The mods are the guys who were 'hired' to maintain the site in a way that fits the view of the administrators as to what sort of site they want Dakka to be. If you don't agree with that view, that's fine... but railing against it isn't going to change it. You agreed to abide by the forum rules when you signed up. If the end result of having to abide by those rules is that your chosen standard of behaviour isn't a good fit for the site, and you prefer to not change that standard to better fit in, then you're ultimately going to be better off finding somewhere else to post rather than railing against the system.

The moderators do 'police their own'... Actions taken against posters are recorded in that poster's case file for the rest of the team to see and discuss where necessary. If one of us goes too far, the others can point it out and correct the issue if necessary. So if you receive a suspension, that's not just one mod on a power-trip. That's the moderation team agreeing that in this situation a suspension was warranted.

At the end of the day, we don't ask for much. Dakka's primary rule is simply to be polite... no more than would be expected of you in any real-life social situation.

Now I feel smug about never recieving a ban or a warning. Although I've only been on Dakka a few months...

Anyway, I think the Mods are very good on this site but they're human and occasionally act too harshly/too lenient. Dakka is a massive site and I don't blame them for not always sifting through the mountains of crap to find the arse responsible. Some people are just unlucky enough to be caught more often.

The mods usually do something if you hit that nice little triangle at the top right of a post you think is going out of hand, anyone complaining that "well he did the same thing on thread x and nothing happened to him" well....did you flag the post? and for all you know he could have gotten a warning through PM...

bombboy1252 wrote:The mods usually do something if you hit that nice little triangle at the top right of a post you think is going out of hand, anyone complaining that "well he did the same thing on thread x and nothing happened to him" well....did you flag the post? and for all you know he could have gotten a warning through PM...

First of all you didn't join dakka long enough to know "who" we are all discussing here or know the history behind it.
The fact that we are all discussing the same "person" should give you some sort of a clue that this is beyond the typical "luck in dodging discipline" or "just a misunderstanding"
And the fact that this has been going on for years and everything is still well for him and im a gonner should be enough of a clue.

That is unless.... you are a sock puppet account. If you are not one, then know you are new and don't know the whole story to be judging the others.

See, the majority of mod team are doing their jobs, no one is saying they weren't.
However for what ever reasons there were for the unfair treatment, the fact still remained, it did happen.

What transpired here in this thread, is a microcosm of humanity. One person's issue is just another's drama.
As long as something doesn't impact "you" directly, you are 100% happy and fine with the system.

That is the sad truth humans share, yet some of us are trying to break that flaw humanity has.
We call that Compassion and Justice for ALL.

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:The mods usually do something if you hit that nice little triangle at the top right of a post you think is going out of hand, anyone complaining that "well he did the same thing on thread x and nothing happened to him" well....did you flag the post? and for all you know he could have gotten a warning through PM...

First of all you didn't join dakka long enough to know "who" we are all discussing here or know the history behind it.
The fact that we are all discussing the same "person" should give you some sort of a clue that this is beyond the typical "luck in dodging discipline" or "just a misunderstanding"
And the fact that this has been going on for years and everything is still well for him and im a gonner should be enough of a clue.

That is unless.... you are a sock puppet account. If you are not one, then know you are new and don't know the whole story to be judging the others.

See, the majority of mod team are doing their jobs, no one is saying they weren't.
However for what ever reasons there were for the unfair treatment, the fact still remained, it did happen.

What transpired here in this thread, is a microcosm of humanity. One person's issue is just another's drama.
As long as something doesn't impact "you" directly, you are 100% happy and fine with the system.

That is the sad truth humans share, yet some of us are trying to break that flaw humanity has.

I'm pretty sure everyone is talking about kanluwen for one...I could be wrong but that's what I pieced together.

I am not a "sock puppet account" if I was, why would I have this many posts.

However for what ever reasons there were for the unfair treatment, the fact still remained, it did happen

what happened?

I am pretty much 100% happy with the system, but not because "it just never happened to me" it's because I have never witnessed anything "unfair" occur, this may or may not change in the future, I haven't been on dakka all that long.

and humanity has much worse flaws than not caring about something because it hasn't happened to them, but yes it is a flaw non the less.

insaniak wrote:
'This kind of modding' doesn't happen anywhere near as often as people would have you believe.

At least not since the weiner dogs lost their badges...

LunaHound wrote:However for what ever reasons there were for the unfair treatment, the fact still remained, it did happen.

I'm pretty sure that if the moderation staff on a forum was treating me in such a manner I'd probably just stop going to that forum and move on with my life.

I'd love to know who you think was treated unfairly, though. I bet we'd probably disagree. Frankly, I think that some people should be "moderated" a little more harshly.

CT GAMER wrote:

insaniak wrote:
'This kind of modding' doesn't happen anywhere near as often as people would have you believe.

At least not since the weiner dogs lost their badges...

That was a terrible day for Dakka.

Which is unfortunate because weiner dog is a nice person.

mattyrm wrote: I've been banned about 18 times but actually been rude on about 6 of those occasions.

Most of the mods are best mates with the bloke that runs the site, and that Jankh bloke who recently joined bans you with a frankly laughable ease if he decides he doesn't like you.

That said, its a private site not a democracy. If you don't like the forum don't post. I like the crack with the lads so i merely wait the bans out and come back as normal.

Lifes not fair, cest la vie.

Don't get your knickers in a twist about it.

Best mates?

I've only met one other moderator (Insaniak) as many years ago he worked at my FLGS and now lives about 100km away in the next major town. I last saw him 6 months ago at a convention.

I've never met Yakface or Legoburner.

I'm particularly amazed that a user with 25 odd posts in 3 days and 2 warning could generate such nerd rage.
Unfortunately due to his newness he doesn't realise that these threads pop up every couple of months.
My spidey sense is working overtime currently, I said the other day that we were due one of these threads....

The consolation is that there are many thousands of members without warnings, many users here are still active and respected members of the community and have had warnings and we are still moderated much, much less harshly then other comparable forums.

I hear a lot of talk about mods having human error I think this calls for on user "Robomod" he'll eliminate this human error that plagues our mods.



http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/397854.page#3335938

Intriguing thread, but not one to which I can contribute much, because I'm such a law abiding citizen (we need an orkmoticon with a halo just for me).

As such you can call me a Mod apologist. Any law is hard to enforce consistently especially when there's so many threads to "patrol". I also don't think it's that hard to avoid getting angry with what strangers write on the internet*, but having seen a few of the OP's posts over the last few days, I can already see he is really going to struggle with this.

*though I confess I get mildly irked occassionally...

I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

That one breaks the brain. I wonder how some of the guys that started THIS YEAR already have multiple warnings. Sheesh, Ive only been given 2 warnings the entire time Ive been here

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

I'm not sure people need be constantly reminded of one's colourful past.

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

dakka record!

Alpharius wrote:On the one hand, I suppose it is... nice (?) that people expect perfection from the Moderators.

On the other hand... well, we're all human.

As Iain pointed out, we are trying our best - that I truly believe.

Now, believe it or not, if you disagree with anything a Moderator says or does, you're always free to PM Yakface or Legoburner (co-owners of the site).

Or, if for some strange reason you're on the other side of the fence (temporarily, I'm sure), e-mail them at webmaster@dakkadakka.com

I can assure you that they read everything sent to them.

Entirely false. Whenever I tried to appeal one of my bans (like, how they tell you to in your ban email), I never got any response.

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

And yet almost 3 years and >14,000 posts your still here...

Obviously the benefits must be outweighing the negatives.

bombboy1252 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

dakka record!

The thing is, from the same thing. Not 2 separate ones.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

And yet almost 3 years and >14,000 posts your still here...

It just shows im 99% good :3

and i have my bad days too

Cheesecat wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

I'm not sure people need be constantly reminded of one's colourful past.

Aww thats fine, because all my issues are related to ONE same person.

It actually is worth noting.

Karon wrote:Entirely false. Whenever I tried to appeal one of my bans (like, how they tell you to in your ban email), I never got any response.

You can read things and not respond.

MrDwhitey wrote:

Karon wrote:Entirely false. Whenever I tried to appeal one of my bans (like, how they tell you to in your ban email), I never got any response.

You can read things and not respond!

I realize that, and I'd like to tell everyone that don't bother emailing - it won't do gak to change anything.

It didn't do gak for you I'm guessing, but it may well have done for many others, and their may be a good reason for why you never had a response.

MrDwhitey wrote:It didn't do gak for you I'm guessing, but it may well have done for many others, and their may be a good reason for why you never had a response.

Yeah, I've been banned many times, and Tom admitted my last ban was very sketchy, and I appealed that ban via email, and I still didn't get anything. If the moderators would have looked for ANY context whatsoever around those quotes that caused my last ban, It wouldn't have happened.

"Lol this hip hop fan thinks I give a feth about what the thinks? TASTE THE BAN, BITCH"

Karon wrote:I realize that, and I'd like to tell everyone that don't bother emailing - it won't do gak to change anything.

The key is probably not being banned in the first place.

That seems to be the path of least resistance.

Seriously, you lot are reminding me of the crap I get to listen to from my niece. So I give you presents



Some music with your whine?

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:I was also wondering how someone could get 2 warnings in 3 days....

Newbie sauce :'P
i got a warning into 3 month ban in 45 mins

And yet almost 3 years and >14,000 posts your still here...

Obviously the benefits must be outweighing the negatives.

Of course! i assumed you haven't been reading my posts?
I love Dakka! i love everything other then 1 specific rude person and 1 specific mod.

My goal and proposal has always been simple, getting that 1 rude jerk ( this isnt just a personal opinion ) to be nice to all.
If not, face the same consequence i had to pay for proving my point to him ( by copy pasting back to him what himself wrote )

K.C. just won the thread