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Slarg232 wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

Ooooh, that sounds incredibly good right now. Not that anyone my age would drink wine, of course

Unless you lived in a country with sensible drinking laws

That I can recall I've never had a warning by PM, I have had maybe two cautions on the open forum. I've been here a few years now and haven't been threatened with a ban at any time unless my memory is failing me. They way some talk here, based on my membership period and post count, I should have had several bannings by now.

So I guess other people must be doing something wrong. Because I can fight my corner quite effectively on the Off Topic section and in several heated debates without being kicked out. Even in my most heated discussion with a mod (Frazzled?), I think another mod made a general comment just to calm the thread, there was no attempt to abuse mod powers to shut me down. Maybe it's because as heated as it may have been, I didn't resort to calling him a Stupidhead McStinkypants to get my point across.

I have never had a problem with the way that the mods work on this site. I have had two, very politely worded, warnings PM'd to me and was relaxed enough with the way that they were phrased to understand the problem and alter the way I behaved accordingly.

The people who post homophobic etc comments, I just flag them up then ignore that poster.... Let the mods deal with them. Life's too short!

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:The people who post homophobic etc comments, I just flag them up then ignore that poster.... Let the mods deal with them. Life's too short!

This is good advice.

Monster Rain wrote:

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:The people who post homophobic etc comments, I just flag them up then ignore that poster.... Let the mods deal with them. Life's too short!

This is good advice.

The problem is that ignoring the troll is close to impossible for so many of us. We need fixin' boss!

MrDwhitey wrote:The problem is that ignoring the troll is close to impossible for so many of us. We need fixin' boss!

The key is to ultimately realize that the person is actively trying to get a reaction out of you, and don't let them.

The old adage of "Don't Feed the Trolls" isn't just a cute internet saying; if you don't respond to someone who is being a dick they will usually go away.

Slarg232 wrote:He's not a moderator anymore, BUT DAMNIT, WHERE ARE THE WEINERS!

Yes these youngins, they know not of the dark times, the times when Frazzled lurked in the dark places, ready to unleash heaping spoons of WIENER DOG JUSTICE upon the unwary.


Lest ye forget:



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H.B.M.C. wrote:I got banned for agreeing with someone who got a warning.

Yeah.

Incorrect. Lorek was coming off a bad night of sterno behind the store and your spinning avatar made him hurl.

Howard A Treesong wrote:That I can recall I've never had a warning by PM, I have had maybe two cautions on the open forum. I've been here a few years now and haven't been threatened with a ban at any time unless my memory is failing me. They way some talk here, based on my membership period and post count, I should have had several bannings by now.

So I guess other people must be doing something wrong. Because I can fight my corner quite effectively on the Off Topic section and in several heated debates without being kicked out. Even in my most heated discussion with a mod (Frazzled?), I think another mod made a general comment just to calm the thread, there was no attempt to abuse mod powers to shut me down. Maybe it's because as heated as it may have been, I didn't resort to calling him a Stupidhead McStinkypants to get my point across.

This, in short. Debaters on the forum tend to split into one of three categories:-

1) The ones who attempt to bypass the swear filter, and openly mock and insult other posters (because they think that is 'cool' by internet standards). They tend to get hammered down rather quickly.

2) The ones who skate close to the line of being directly rude, and attempt to insult another person via their argument in order to circumvent being warned/banned. Sometimes it even works, but these people usually get nailed after a period of time.

3) The people who remember that they are posting on a forum about toy soldiers, and are mature adults. These ones tend to be literate, polite, and if something gets under their skin, they just hit 'ignore', or stop replying. Because being mature people, they realise that it simply doesn't matter.


Which forum users fit into which category? I'll leave everyone else to decide that for themselves.

It must be said though, the ones that fit into Number 3 rarely ever run into problems here, as those are the kind of users that this forum is essentially geared towards. People who wish to cause drama, swear, and so on are probably better suited heading over to HeresyOnline......

CT GAMER wrote:

insaniak wrote:
'This kind of modding' doesn't happen anywhere near as often as people would have you believe.

At least not since the weiner dogs lost their badges...

You're just jealous because all the wienerdogs talk to me.

This was posted by a user a while back:

What transpired here in this thread, is a microcosm of humanity.

I have to disagree.

What this thread is is a microcosm of the negativity spawned by those who felt "wronged" by the system established here.

This is a war miniature forum dedicated to those who are enthusiastic about their hobby. It is a place to congregate that we strive to make a little better every time (for us and future gamers). This means that rules are in place thay we abide by.

Not all the rules are easy to follow. Sometimes we step over lines. And we have people who are there to tell us when we step over that line.

A warning is typical for something obviously over the line. Sometimes where we stepped over is hard to see, so a decision has to be made to hand a warning out anyway. We live and learn and move on from that warning.

But then we keep getting warnings. Why is that? Do I look down and see where I step over the line enough? Maybe I need to discuss with someone my habits? Can I change what I do?

These are the things we should be asking ourselves in this thread. What did I do wrong, and how can I correct it? Not I did not do anything wrong and I feel thoroughly justified in complaining about how it is unfair that I am being targeted/suspended/unfairly judged/whatever.

We are all guests of yakface here, who in his good graces has provided us a home for our passions and our time and energy devoted to a hobby or hobbies that others share. We must respect this place as best as we can and in turn thank the hardworking volunteers how help maintain and safeguard this place. This does not mean bootlicking, but it at least means respecting those who take their time and energy and money and try to improve this site on a daily basis.

If there is a problem, resolve it with PMs from now on. Alot of people who came here to complain have now gotten the attention they deserved they needed. Well, if you though you were ignored, now is the best opportunity to talk to people on the side to see if there can be any resolution to your grievances or problems.

If there is something you think is truly wrong with the site, take it to the Nuts and Bolts forum.

Such as it is, I have four warnings under my belt and in no way do I gripe about what is fair or unfair. Everything that I needed to ask of moderators I have gotten through PMs and counseling from wiser Dakka members than myself. I know if I step over the line again, I'm in for another warning and a possible suspension. I may not like it, but it is the rules of this forum that I take a mini vacation in order to cool my heels off.

So in short, let us end this thread by collectively taking our respective problems off this thread and talk directly to those we think we need to talk to.

Frazzled wrote:You're just jealous because all the wienerdogs talk to me.

I just noticed that you're not a mod any more.

Hmm...

Frazzled wrote:You're just jealous because all the wienerdogs talk to me.

I am jealous... but now satisfied with the weiner dog pics . I was going into withdrawal...

WarOne speaks wisely...

Frazzled wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

insaniak wrote:
'This kind of modding' doesn't happen anywhere near as often as people would have you believe.

At least not since the weiner dogs lost their badges...

You're just jealous because all the wienerdogs talk to me.

True.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

KingCracker wrote:giant wine bottle

Ooooh, that sounds incredibly good right now. Not that anyone my age would drink wine, of course

Unless you lived in a country with sensible drinking laws

No we are Americans. And Americans do stupid things when drinking. SPECIALLY the youth. I think you guys would be surprised at how stupid pre 21 y/o drinkers are in this country.......and yes Im taking into account how stupid legal drinkers can get as well

Generalising a group of people in a negative manner? breaking rule one right there KC

corpsesarefun wrote:Generalising a group of people in a negative manner? breaking rule one right there KC

Time to bring out the BanHammer!

Ketara wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:That I can recall I've never had a warning by PM, I have had maybe two cautions on the open forum. I've been here a few years now and haven't been threatened with a ban at any time unless my memory is failing me. They way some talk here, based on my membership period and post count, I should have had several bannings by now.

So I guess other people must be doing something wrong. Because I can fight my corner quite effectively on the Off Topic section and in several heated debates without being kicked out. Even in my most heated discussion with a mod (Frazzled?), I think another mod made a general comment just to calm the thread, there was no attempt to abuse mod powers to shut me down. Maybe it's because as heated as it may have been, I didn't resort to calling him a Stupidhead McStinkypants to get my point across.

This, in short. Debaters on the forum tend to split into one of three categories:-

1) The ones who attempt to bypass the swear filter, and openly mock and insult other posters (because they think that is 'cool' by internet standards). They tend to get hammered down rather quickly.

2) The ones who skate close to the line of being directly rude, and attempt to insult another person via their argument in order to circumvent being warned/banned. Sometimes it even works, but these people usually get nailed after a period of time.

3) The people who remember that they are posting on a forum about toy soldiers, and are mature adults. These ones tend to be literate, polite, and if something gets under their skin, they just hit 'ignore', or stop replying. Because being mature people, they realise that it simply doesn't matter.
Me when i try really really hard.

Which forum users fit into which category? I'll leave everyone else to decide that for themselves.

It must be said though, the ones that fit into Number 3 rarely ever run into problems here, as those are the kind of users that this forum is essentially geared towards. People who wish to cause drama, swear, and so on are probably better suited heading over to HeresyOnline......

agreed mate competely agree, sometimes its hard to be a no.3 if someone else there is bluntly insulting

Totally agree, and we need people to make a real effort to be a no.3.

The Yellow Triangle of Friendship is always there for you.

Okay, then outside of being another pointless bitch-fest (which is what DD is getting a reputation for being, by the way), what's the point? Where's the solution? Everyone seems quick to jump to their complaint cards, but I've not seen a single solution for any legitimate problem mentioned by any poster here. I've seen a lot of whinging and moaning, but who has a solution? How do you fix the problems that haunt each one of you every time you post?



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This is such a flamebait thread. I've tried several times to form a post that would properly convey my feelings in a way that would be appropriate to the forum, but I can't help but express how I feel about this thread and the people within at level of inarticulation that would do YouTube comments justice.

insaniak wrote:

LunaHound wrote:See, after all the actions you said you would address to the rude person ( either via report or you breaking up an argument ) , after such a long time, and to multiple members,
the fact still remains the same. He is still rude, condescending, and obnoxious to anyone that doesn't agree with him.
This is where we can see that despite all disciplinary actions are in private, it becomes rather transparent and obvious. He is certainly the same.

You could certainly take that as a sign that someone is receiving 'special treatment'...

Alternatively, you could take it as a sign that you possibly need to re-evaluate how you see their posts. It's very easy to see someone's post as rude or condescending when you are already predisposed to dislike them.

Add the fact of im gone for months and hes still there doing the same o rude things, it really doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to know he wasn't disciplined.
Or, the discipline is obviously not equal.

Of course the discipline is not equal. Someone stealing a car for the first time receives different treatment to someone who drives off with an entire car yard.

You being rude will be treated based on your previous history and the exact nature of the offence. Someone else being rude will be treated based on their previous history and the exact nature of their offence.


The fact that someone is still here is hardly a sign that they have not been disciplined for breaking the rules. After all, you're still here.
And the fact that you personally feel that someone's post crosses the line does not mean that the mods will automatically agree. Or that your response to it wasn't worse than the original post.

Far be it from me to get involved in personal disputes, but if this is the person I think it is, then yeah I'm baffled as well as to how they've avoided some sort of punishment. Non-stop condecension and hostility even when proven wrong.

Or its possible I'm thinking of an entirely different person, in which case carry on.

Just to give my experience though, I've never had a problem with mods here. It is usually fair and some of the stuff I write, I feel crosses the line and I'm never warned about it. But then I haven't been here very long and I usually lurk the same threads if I'm not posting in them.

Edit: Looking back through the thread, its definitely the person I thought it was. Stand by what I said. Others have been banned for less than what that person does constantly.

daedalus wrote:This is such a flamebait thread. I've tried several times to form a post that would properly convey my feelings in a way that would be appropriate to the forum, but I can't help but express how I feel about this thread and the people within at level of inarticulation that would do YouTube comments justice.

The thread has remain relatively civil, has contained some genuine conversation, a little humour, and some heated words. There's nothing flamebait-y about it so far.


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Asuron wrote:Far be it from me to get involved in personal disputes, but if this is the person I think it is, then yeah I'm baffled as well as to how they've avoided some sort of punishment. Non-stop condecension and hostility even when proven wrong.

It's exactly who you're thinking of.

Asuron wrote:...then yeah I'm baffled as well as to how they've avoided some sort of punishment.

I refer you once again to the fact that we don't publicise suspensions, or generally discuss them with anyone other than the relevant poster.

corpsesarefun wrote:Generalising a group of people in a negative manner? breaking rule one right there KC

bombboy1252 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Generalising a group of people in a negative manner? breaking rule one right there KC

Time to bring out the BanHammer!

Ahhh balls. Am I at least the first person t get banned for bashing his own country and the ENTIRE country at that?

Does dakka count as a country?

If so gailbraithe beat you to it KC.

I have had a single PM warning about something that I posted (and the post deleted).

In all I am happy with the modding here - I think it might even have improved over the last few (6+?) months.

my question is though has anyone ever reported themself?

Asherian Command wrote:my question is though has anyone ever reported themself?

That sounds like prank calling 911. If you make a post you think is bad, edit out the bad parts, or just don't make a bad post. If you can fix the mistake why summon the mods to spend there time fixing it?

Necroshea wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:my question is though has anyone ever reported themself?

That sounds like prank calling 911. If you make a post you think is bad, edit out the bad parts, or just don't make a bad post. If you can fix the mistake why summon the mods to spend there time fixing it?

If you post in the wrong forum and want your thread moving you could report your own post.

SilverMK2 wrote:I have had a single PM warning about something that I posted (and the post deleted).

In all I am happy with the modding here - I think it might even have improved over the last few (6+?) months.

Especially in the last 2 weeks