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I'm not sure why the Voice of Twilight thing is even a question. If it were a blessing that targeted the psyker, then sure, there might be some confusion.

But it's not. It's a blessing that targets all units within 12". Once it's cast, they have Battle Focus until the end of the following turn, their position relative to the caster is as irrelevant as it is with any other blessing.

This is like asking if a unit that's had Prescience cast on it can move beyond 12" of the psyker.

Consider this my one post on the topic, as per OP's request lol.

I submitted this thread to NOVA. They are tracking it now and it should be handled before nova if an official FAQ doesn't drop.

If a Wave Serpent with Vectored engines moves and then disembarks passengers, then in the shooting phase fires a weapon, is it allowed to use its Vectored Engines to pivot after shooting that turn?

Warlocks on Jetbikes:
Warlock is assigned to another unit immediately after rolling for Warlord Traits.
Wargear options are chosen during the deployment of your models.
(This isn't written in rules as far as I can tell [I spent all day looking], but in the 3 groups I attend, everyone was agreed that this was how to resolve the issue)

Vectored Engines: Unless Immobilised, this vehicle can pivot after shooting.
I can't see anything in this description that says that disembarking troops means that you can't pivot after shooting..
Veterans I have spoken to have advised me to use this very tactic where possible.. It protects the vehicle a little better.

FROM 1st POST: Serpent Shield weapon.
The ability to fire it can be destroyed (the barrel is next to the bottom mounted turret) but the shield is not generated from there.. (according to my local GW store manager)

tempesteldar wrote:
Warlocks on Jetbikes:
Warlock is assigned to another unit immediately after rolling for Warlord Traits.

And after you determine Warlord Traits, you deploy (which happens to be when psychic powers are rolled for).

Wargear options are chosen during the deployment of your models.
(This isn't written in rules as far as I can tell [I spent all day looking], but in the 3 groups I attend, everyone was agreed that this was how to resolve the issue)

What? Since when do you choose wargear during deployment?

Vectored Engines: Unless Immobilised, this vehicle can pivot after shooting.
I can't see anything in this description that says that disembarking troops means that you can't pivot after shooting..
Veterans I have spoken to have advised me to use this very tactic where possible.. It protects the vehicle a little better.

What about the rules for disembarking?

FROM 1st POST: Serpent Shield weapon.
The ability to fire it can be destroyed (the barrel is next to the bottom mounted turret) but the shield is not generated from there.. (according to my local GW store manager)

Citation needed. GW store managers aren't exactly rules experts.

 Happyjew wrote:

tempesteldar wrote:
Warlocks on Jetbikes:
Warlock is assigned to another unit immediately after rolling for Warlord Traits.

And after you determine Warlord Traits, you deploy (which happens to be when psychic powers are rolled for).

From the rules that I have read, psychic powers are rolled for at the same time as warlord traits. As both rules for determining them state "Before either player deploys, they must....." on page 121 and 418. Where does everyone get warlord traits first from?

 megatrons2nd wrote:
From the rules that I have read, psychic powers are rolled for at the same time as warlord traits. As both rules for determining them state "Before either player deploys, they must....." on page 121 and 418. Where does everyone get warlord traits first from?

The reference section at the end for pre-game sequence (Page 424 or 148)

 Quanar wrote:

 megatrons2nd wrote:
From the rules that I have read, psychic powers are rolled for at the same time as warlord traits. As both rules for determining them state "Before either player deploys, they must....." on page 121 and 418. Where does everyone get warlord traits first from?

The reference section at the end for pre-game sequence (Page 424 or 148)

A summary quite often misses some things. I believe that in the Eldar summary there is a psychic power that works better than it's actual rules allow. Maybe it is an ability, now I'll go look.

Anyway, I don't use summaries for the simple fact that they cut needed information, and often miss parts of the rules. Using the rules the player would choose the order of operations, as both rolling the warlord trait and the psychic powers occur at the same time.

 megatrons2nd wrote:
A summary quite often misses some things. {Snip}
Anyway, I don't use summaries for the simple fact that they cut needed information, and often miss parts of the rules. Using the rules the player would choose the order of operations, as both rolling the warlord trait and the psychic powers occur at the same time.

I don't disagree with you, you asked, I pointed. Which is why this is a FAQ-worthy question as opposed to a "RTFM" question.

 Quanar wrote:

 megatrons2nd wrote:
A summary quite often misses some things. {Snip}
Anyway, I don't use summaries for the simple fact that they cut needed information, and often miss parts of the rules. Using the rules the player would choose the order of operations, as both rolling the warlord trait and the psychic powers occur at the same time.

I don't disagree with you, you asked, I pointed. Which is why this is a FAQ-worthy question as opposed to a "RTFM" question.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend, Just putting my 2 cents in on the subject.