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nosferatu1001 wrote:

Atra Culpa wrote:
Regarding Faolchu's Wing; the codex states that a model with Faolchu's Wing may run up to 48" and you may not shoot or psych after it has done so, but does this ability transfer to the unit this model may be a part of or will the bearer simply fly off on his own?

No, cannot fly off on their own, reread the rules for run (models move at own speed, but as it is a move must maintain coherency) and the ruls for when ICs are allowed to join and leave units (hint: it isnt int he shooting phase

This question should be removed as it is clearly and unambiguously answered in the BRB

Apologies, the 'flying off on their own' was meant to be a bit of melodrama. I've rephrased the question to hopefully be more clear.

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 shamikebab wrote:
The way I read it, if you have a close combat weapon listed in the wargear of the model, then it is a possible target for disarming strike.

otherwise if we're saying tyranids are immune then why not powerfists? it's not like he can knock it out of his hand.

Because tyranids have a rule stating they do not use CCW? That rule, that I quoted, that makes them different to everyone else?

A powerfist is a CCW. Yes or No? Do 'nids use CCW, as defined in their codex? Yes or No?

Yes, yes.

The section says Tyranids do not wield close combat weapons as such instead slashing with their own teeth, claws and talons, they don't get the bonus for additional CCW's as it is included in their profile. It doesn't say anything about them not being treated as combat weapons for the purpose of other rules as far as I can see. It would need a FAQ to clarify if this were to be the case, as it stands the way I read it is they are as vulnerable as anyone else with a combat weapon.

They even have an armory section titled Close Combat Weapons. The description of Claws and Teeth for example is "models with claws and teeth count as having a normal close combat weapon"

So, they dont wield Close Combat Weapons, but you are saying they should be treated as if they are> there is no rules support for that


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Atra Culpa wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

Atra Culpa wrote:
Regarding Faolchu's Wing; the codex states that a model with Faolchu's Wing may run up to 48" and you may not shoot or psych after it has done so, but does this ability transfer to the unit this model may be a part of or will the bearer simply fly off on his own?

No, cannot fly off on their own, reread the rules for run (models move at own speed, but as it is a move must maintain coherency) and the ruls for when ICs are allowed to join and leave units (hint: it isnt int he shooting phase

This question should be removed as it is clearly and unambiguously answered in the BRB

Apologies, the 'flying off on their own' was meant to be a bit of melodrama. I've rephrased the question to hopefully be more clear.

Again, why does a model having an ability to Run farther confer to the unit? There is no allowance for it to happen, so it does not.

TYhis is again unambiguously answered in the rulebook, and should not be submitted to avoid answering a clearly answered in the rules question.

If a War Walker has 2 Scatterlasers, does the Laser Lock still apply? It seems to read that you fire all Scatterlasers first and if you get a hit, then the other weapons get to re-roll to hit.

Basically, is it legal to fire one Scatterlaser, get a hit, then fire the other Scatterlaser with rerolls to hit.

If not, I've got Starcannons as a second weapon mount.

 Sarigar wrote:
If a War Walker has 2 Scatterlasers, does the Laser Lock still apply? It seems to read that you fire all Scatterlasers first and if you get a hit, then the other weapons get to re-roll to hit.

Basically, is it legal to fire one Scatterlaser, get a hit, then fire the other Scatterlaser with rerolls to hit.

If not, I've got Starcannons as a second weapon mount.

The Laser Lock rule explains this perfectly. It's crystal clear.

 Sarigar wrote:
If a War Walker has 2 Scatterlasers, does the Laser Lock still apply? It seems to read that you fire all Scatterlasers first and if you get a hit, then the other weapons get to re-roll to hit.

Basically, is it legal to fire one Scatterlaser, get a hit, then fire the other Scatterlaser with rerolls to hit.

If not, I've got Starcannons as a second weapon mount.

Laserlock tells you, totally unambiguously, that you fire those weaspons FIRST. IF you fire one first, the other second, have you complied with this rule?

This one has been raised in another thread, if you have a Striking Scorpion with Crushing Blow and a Scorpion Claw, does he strike at Strength 7 or Strength 8? Is crushing blow an adjustment to his basic stats (like a bike/jetbike) or a wargear modifier to be added after doubling strength from the claw?

 shamikebab wrote:
This one has been raised in another thread, if you have a Striking Scorpion with Crushing Blow and a Scorpion Claw, does he strike at Strength 7 or Strength 8? Is crushing blow an adjustment to his basic stats (like a bike/jetbike) or a wargear modifier to be added after doubling strength from the claw?

Explicitly covered in the rules

Whether permanent or temporary, it is defined as a modifier. You resolve multiple modifiers according to the rules in the rulebook.

S7

Does activating a force weapon (Staff of Ulthamar) count as using another psychic power for the limitations of Death Mission?

 yakface wrote:

EQUIPMENT
• Does a successful Scattershield save cause the model with the Scattershield (as well as any unit he may be joined to), to have to take a Blind test as well?

I think this is answered in the BRB under the Blind USR:

pg. 34 - '... Should the attacking unit hit themselves, we assume they are prepared and they automatically pass the test." When a scattershield passes a save, it's like they're hitting all the other units and should be considered the attacking unit.

 reds8n wrote:
Regarding Faolchu's Wing - again -- the move presumably ignores the effects of difficult terrain ? Be a bit awkward to roll for otherwise.

Dangerous terrain is ignored as well ?

That movement is Running. The rules explicitly tell you how Running interacts with dangerous and difficult terrain.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
Regarding Faolchu's Wing - again -- the move presumably ignores the effects of difficult terrain ? Be a bit awkward to roll for otherwise.

Dangerous terrain is ignored as well ?

That movement is Running. The rules explicitly tell you how Running interacts with dangerous and difficult terrain.

There's no requirement to move in a straight line so with 48" movement you should be able to dodge all but the last bit of terrain (assuming you wanted to move into terrain at the end).

Ok, so how do Horrify, Terrify and Mind War work with the Orks Mob rule?

Just to give you a couple of examples:

1) Say I cast Terrify on a unit of 30 boys removing Fearless, then cast Horrify (-3LD) and then Mind War hits the Nob of that unit. What LD value is the Mind War tested on?

2) If I cast Horrify (-3LD) on a unit of 30 boys and then Terrify, do they take the morale check on 10 or 7?

3) If I cast Horrify on the a unit of 30 boys and then cast Mind War on the Nob in the unit is that test checked with the Nob having LD7 or LD10?

Another question regarding Diarming Strike - some weapons consist of a pair of weapons (such as the Gauntlets of Ultramar or Powerblades). Does disarming strike remove one of the pair or both?

 Happyjew wrote:
Another question regarding Diarming Strike - some weapons consist of a pair of weapons (such as the Gauntlets of Ultramar or Powerblades). Does disarming strike remove one of the pair or both?

It says "weapons" in pg 30 . So it includes all weapons.

 Markaret wrote:
Ok, so how do Horrify, Terrify and Mind War work with the Orks Mob rule?

Just to give you a couple of examples:

1) Say I cast Terrify on a unit of 30 boys removing Fearless, then cast Horrify (-3LD) and then Mind War hits the Nob of that unit. What LD value is the Mind War tested on?

2) If I cast Horrify (-3LD) on a unit of 30 boys and then Terrify, do they take the morale check on 10 or 7?

3) If I cast Horrify on the a unit of 30 boys and then cast Mind War on the Nob in the unit is that test checked with the Nob having LD7 or LD10?

If the nob is attached to the unit, the -Ld should affect him just the same as the others. Since you are allowed to use the highest leadership in the unit to resolve leadership tests it will be his leadership, -3.

But isn't the rule with Orks not that they are fearless, but that their leadership is equal to the number of models in the unit?

They use the number of models for Ld and if they're 11+ models they're Fearless.

 Markaret wrote:
Ok, so how do Horrify, Terrify and Mind War work with the Orks Mob rule?

Just to give you a couple of examples:

1) Say I cast Terrify on a unit of 30 boys removing Fearless, then cast Horrify (-3LD) and then Mind War hits the Nob of that unit. What LD value is the Mind War tested on?

2) If I cast Horrify (-3LD) on a unit of 30 boys and then Terrify, do they take the morale check on 10 or 7?

3) If I cast Horrify on the a unit of 30 boys and then cast Mind War on the Nob in the unit is that test checked with the Nob having LD7 or LD10?

Their Ld is the number of boys in the unit, capped at 10 as usual.

So if you have 30 boys, they are ld 30, capped at 10. If you reduce their Ld by 3, they are Ld (30-3), capped at 10

This isnt new, btw, and isnt an Eldar specific quesiton

PSYCHIC POWERS
• Does Doom allow all 'to wound' rolls to be re-rolled as described in the summary, or just failed rolls to wound as described in the main rules.

When you submit this, I would add, for clarity, something like, "For example, may I re-roll successful wounds that are not Rending in order to try to get Rending wounds?" (or whatever the new Eldar Rending is called.)

Hey, quick question. If you have the master of deception warlord trait from the CSM:codex does that mean you can nominate ANY infantry? such as jump infantry?

I know it's a silly question, just curious. Thanks dakka dakka!

 Koski wrote:
Hey, quick question. If you have the master of deception warlord trait from the CSM:codex does that mean you can nominate ANY infantry? such as jump infantry?

I know it's a silly question, just curious. Thanks dakka dakka!

I'm not sure why you think this is the thread to ask that question! This is a thread just to post questions for the Eldar codex, and not even to get answers for those questions (just to collect the questions).

From this thread:

Can an Eldar psyker that has rolled on the Runes of Battle disclipine use both abilities from one result in the same turn?

When exactly does Eldrad roll to see if he generates another witchfire point.

For example if he spends his last point casting a power and rolls a double 1 is he removed straight away or could he try to generate another point via his staff to spend on his ghost helm to save him or does he die first.

 reds8n wrote:
When exactly does Eldrad roll to see if he generates another witchfire point.

For example if he spends his last point casting a power and rolls a double 1 is he removed straight away or could he try to generate another point via his staff to spend on his ghost helm to save him or does he die first.

It is a good question, although it seems pretty likely that its the kind of thing that the player whose turn it is gets to decide (as its basically two things resolving at the same time). Given that Eldrad is REALLY unlikely to burn through 4 Warp Charges on the opponent's turn, I think this is only going to happen on the Eldar player's turn and he's going to choose to resolve the Spirtlink rule first...but regardless, it seems like a decent enough question to add (because technically the rule about the player whose turn it is choosing order is only supposed to apply when both players have something resolving at the same time, although GW's FAQ has referenced this rule incorrectly as though it does apply in all situations of simultaneous resolution, even those all belonging to a single player).

**remembering to update thread before responding is a good thing to do - post removed, already answered**

Are monofilament weapons AP1 vs. all targets on a 6 or just those that are AP3 or less. The sentence starts with "Additionally," it can be read that the AP is in addition to the Strength bonus, or because it is a new sentence it can be read that the AP rule is in addition to the rule about a bonus strength vs. low AP targets.

BRB 61 Grenades
Assault, Plasma, Haywire and Krak grenades can be thrown

can you use fast shot to change the profile to Assault 2?

steinerp wrote:Are monofilament weapons AP1 vs. all targets on a 6 or just those that are AP3 or less. The sentence starts with "Additionally," it can be read that the AP is in addition to the Strength bonus, or because it is a new sentence it can be read that the AP rule is in addition to the rule about a bonus strength vs. low AP targets.

Every other time "additionally" starts off a new sentence, it's been treated as a separate effect, not tied to the sentence before. This is how it makes sense applying the English language as well.

Tri wrote:BRB 61 Grenades
Assault, Plasma, Haywire and Krak grenades can be thrown

can you use fast shot to change the profile to Assault 2?

Not having the rulebook to hand... doesn't the rule state that one model per unit may "throw" a grenade? As opposed to taking an extra "shot" from the Fast Shot rule. Being pedantic, I know, but Fast Shot doesn't tell you to do anything to the weapon profile, that's why it has to give examples.

I'd like to get a confirmation on whether you can, for example, use the shooting profile of a Laser Lance and still be able to use the melee profile in the same turn?

Linked thread:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/532244.page

 Super Ready wrote:


Not having the rulebook to hand... doesn't the rule state that one model per unit may "throw" a grenade? As opposed to taking an extra "shot" from the Fast Shot rule. Being pedantic, I know, but Fast Shot doesn't tell you to do anything to the weapon profile, that's why it has to give examples.

As requested ... the important bits
"Only one grenade (of any type) can be thrown by a unit per shooting phase"
"when a unit armed with plasma grenades makes a shooting attack, one model can choose to throw a grenade rather then using another weapon"
"plasma grenade Range 8" S4 AP4 type Assault 1, blast"
"number of shots: some weapons fire multiple shots. Where this is the case, the number of shots is noted after its type"
"fast Shot: model always fires one more shot that is normal for his weapon."

Now I'm just trying to have a laugh with the rules here but technically if a model with fast shot throws a grenade he will always throw one more then normal ... actually getting that grenade is more problematic ( while we're on the subject ...

what happens if a model with fast shot fires a one shot weapon?