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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 20:39:34
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Killer Klaivex
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Kingcatwell wrote:Hey there, Inquisitor s on warseer just pointed me to this thread in a pm so i joined up. Theres proof that its me and not some id stealing chump in the description box of my latest vid on youtube, the shapeways dilemma.
First, thanks to everyone here who had a hand in exposing bcs, the more he's exposed, the less people get screwed over.
secondly to bcs;
1. Can you show any in software 3D renders or the base geometry to prove you have the 3D files at the least and could have offerred the model if there had been no IP issues? This would help at least show you were capable of following through on your pre-orders and drastically minimize the appearance of outright fraud.
2. Can you please provide your business registration # and attendant info as demanded by US law.
3. Do you now publicly attest, that you are not, nor in any way involved with Daniel Mandelbaum or Stephanie Hernandez or any of their associated aliases.
4. Can you provide the phone numbers of local California hobby establishments that would be able to attest to your existence so that we can have some verification beyond your assurances in #3. Note, this will not give out any of your personal information, but since you attest to being part of the California scene for some time and worked in the hobby, it should be no problem to get a hold of someone, anyone who knows you out there and is themselves a verifiable employee or known person at the locations you specify.
Thirdly If you do have my files, the only way you could of got them was through computer hacking, which is also illegal.
And you were going to mass produce it, all using gws warhound name. Which should interest the good folks over at Gw's legal department.
Cheers for taking the time to do this. It's much appreciated.
And enjoy Dakka?
I know I for one would be fascinated to see a P&M Blog on your modelling here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 20:44:05
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Thanks for coming and posting here, Catwell!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 20:52:22
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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And here again: thank you for making the effort, Catwell, it is much appreciated
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 20:52:51
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Thank you very much indeed sir.
Now, if someone not banned might post this unedited over on BCS?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:00:44
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
TERRA
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And:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:02:28
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MajorTom11 wrote:Thank you very much indeed sir. Now, if someone not banned might post this unedited over on BCS? Done. I have a screenshot of it but can't currently add it to this post due to work blocking me from photobucket. Automatically Appended Next Post: Hmmm it would appear the Lexicanum post is gone but mine is still there... I am however now banned from posting! Awww... Now the comment is gone too. So much for truth, and transparency on the internet Mr. BCS.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:07:58
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
TERRA
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Done. I have a screenshot of it but can't currently add it to this post due to work blocking me from photobucket.
Can't see your comment on his page. Can you see mine?
Hmmm it would appear the Lexicanum post is gone but mine is still there...
I can still see my own comment. If you can't see it it means he marked it as "spam" which means it's hidden from people not on my friendslist =only my friends can still see it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:14:46
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Inquisitor S. wrote:Done. I have a screenshot of it but can't currently add it to this post due to work blocking me from photobucket.
Can't see your comment on his page. Can you see mine?
Hmmm it would appear the Lexicanum post is gone but mine is still there...
I can still see my own comment. If you can't see it it means he marked it as "spam" which means it's hidden from people not on my friendslist =only my friends can still see it.
Hmmm... I can't see any of it anymore. I am posting as Capture and Control not as myself, I am pretty sure Capture and Control follows Lexicanum on FB but that doesn't mean I can see the spam posts necessarily. I am not going to post as myself on anything doing with Mandlebonder.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:15:37
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Well, he DID say he hadn't deleted any!
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:15:39
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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Aaaand, I'm banned. He's certainly online and checking it, as it took all of 1 minute for my post to get deleted and for him to ban me.
Danial, you mad bro?
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:17:51
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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The owner of BCS was desperate to get in touch with Catwell to sort out the files problem. Why would he delete a communication from Catwell?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:28:19
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Haha ok well i think thats the finishing blow hopefully.
All of this has fired up my anxiety levels , stomach feels like its being crushed since tuesday. Eugh. It ill be nice to move on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:30:55
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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I just posted to check the waters and it was deleted inside 60 seconds.
Its as transparently fraudulent as an email from your long lost uncle, a reverend from Djibouti with 14 million dollars in the bank and a desperate desire to send you half of it.
What an absolute scumbag. Would he not address my "is this page fraudulent?" question if he had nothing to hide, rather than deleting things so fast his mouse is liable to burst into flames and then banning me from the page?
Seriously, this fether wants jailing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:38:54
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Daniel Mandelbaum, you're busted. Again.
I also think its time more aggressive action be taken reporting this man to each and every authority from tax to post to federal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:41:25
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Aerethan wrote:Aaaand, I'm banned. He's certainly online and checking it, as it took all of 1 minute for my post to get deleted and for him to ban me.
Danial, you mad bro?
I hope his fury and paranoia drive him to spend time searching for my real name to ban that account too. Just so I know he wasted the time.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:45:55
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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4 Seconds flat for a block/ban. it's mandelbonderduckybeasley.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:46:42
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I've posted the quote as well.
Oh, and wooh. First post!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:46:51
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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He also deleted my comments now and banned me  Proven guilty as said. Looking forward how he'll stay there for the the next lot of hours banning people and deleting comments
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 21:51:07
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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A wordplay on denial? Touché Sir.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 22:09:04
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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I've been silent most the day without my opinion but it definitely is DM.
I was contacted directly by the RF account by Daniel shortly after this thread began, which I was assured he had no access to when I worked for them.
The rash behaviour of deleting comments and banning people instead of responding and answering the questions and requests for proof of identity show that the business is not operating legally. I'm sure we have some members here with legal knowledge and could contact proper authorities. I will be heading to the tax office tomorrow for my own business needs and inquire about the proper procedure to report a business that is operating illegally and avoiding taxes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 22:10:45
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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What a coward, honestly. Spread the word people, Daniel Mandelbaum is back and looking to add another chapter of cowardice and thievery to his long and pathetic story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 22:21:34
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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[DCM]
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And because a certain individual just doesn't seem to get it:
Alpharius wrote:I have nothing to do with this, and truly want nothing more to do with Daniel Mandelbaum EVER.
Every time a thread on Dakka Dakka starts about his latest venture, he begins harassing me over the phone and calling at all hours, making vague threats.
I don't care to hear anything he has to say, ever.
Maybe he thinks I owe him something because he finally paid me back after years of having to chase him down for all that he owed me?
To be clear:
1) I owe him nothing.
2) I am reporting him to the authorities each and every time he calls from now on, and I suggest all of you do too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 22:24:53
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Just remember to save every time he calls you. If he leaves you a voicemail save it so when you go to the authorities you have proof of harassment.
I'd also like to add, if you have an iPhone there are apps that record calls. I put one on my phone to record any calls I receive from Daniel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 22:25:17
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have reported the BCS facebook page several times now. To no avail, not that I expected it to accomplish anything.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 22:27:43
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Facebook isn't interested in protecting members from scams and fraud. Especially from someone who is a paid advertiser in their page.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 23:00:26
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Dakka Veteran
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Amazing.... Scam a small tight knit community, get caught, create a new account and fake business... rinse and repeat.
If all the accusations are true, perhaps a vacation at club Fed would stop the cycle.
Edit to add history: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/538614.page
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Any resemblance of this post to written English is purely coincidental.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 23:47:43
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Scammer is currently posting on https://www.facebook.com/groups/2375487814/10151673200522815/?notif_t=group_comment_reply and the mod there has deleted any warnings from the community.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 23:52:14
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Old Sourpuss
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That's probably because they don't want to deal with it, not out of any sort of malice towards those trying to spread the word.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/30 00:04:35
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Regular Dakkanaut
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See, Although I think MandelKimbirdforge should be brought to the attention of potential customers, and the community has come together to help prevent further scams and in a timely manner, I have to say that with her own fanpage she should be allowed to delete any negativity she feels might detract fromthe point of her page, which is conversions, fluff etc.
As long as Mandlebirdsteph isn't trying to sell any of his conversions on the fanpage, The mod should be able to deal with it how she likes (Even though I wouldn't handle it that way myself personally)
HOWEVER, I think she should keep an open mind and maybe listen to the people on her page and possibly look at some of the evidence before deleting it all.
The only thing that worries me is him potentially bringing new customers to his studio page via the link at the bottom of the posts he's making
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/30 00:05:34
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah she just doesn't want the grief, she also banned all rules arguments and pricing discussion. Just wants it to be about peoples work.
How would an anti mandlebaum warning group on FB fare? Would it be ok or do you think it would be shut down?
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