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 GreenScorpion wrote:


While the things they have shown seem nice, I do wonder when any of this will actually appear in the wild.
To be honest it seems like they have lots of logistical issues even with their digital releases so we will likely see a GW traitor guard codex/supplement before these renegades reach plastic.

Yeah, I'm in that same boat. I've been waiting on their Afghan Cavalry for over a year myself. It was digitally previewed in September 2020 with a sprue shown in 2021 but since then, crickets. I love their stuff but I wish they would bring back the production timeline for upcoming products.

 legionaires wrote:

 GreenScorpion wrote:


While the things they have shown seem nice, I do wonder when any of this will actually appear in the wild.
To be honest it seems like they have lots of logistical issues even with their digital releases so we will likely see a GW traitor guard codex/supplement before these renegades reach plastic.

Yeah, I'm in that same boat. I've been waiting on their Afghan Cavalry for over a year myself. It was digitally previewed in September 2020 with a sprue shown in 2021 but since then, crickets. I love their stuff but I wish they would bring back the production timeline for upcoming products.

Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.

 McDougall Designs wrote:


Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.

Didn't they also move to a production supplier east of the Pacific? I seem to recall that being a thing but could be mistaken. If so I can see there being a delay to new sets actually being produced as the new supper gets up to speed.

 McDougall Designs wrote:

Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.

There have always been delays from the start due to how they handled their pre-order system.
Hudson has mentioned that they would change to a roughly same time pre-order system where stock is allocated and distributed before the ordering starts in order to reduce the amount of times people in certain regions take 4, 5 or 6 months to get their pre-orders or their orders with stuff that went out of stock (waiting periods based on complaints from users of the Wargames Atlantic forum).
The issue seems to be that despite owning the production now on the US, they still have no real logistics planning in place to prevent things from going out of stock for a quarter of the year and that has affected the new releases more than the natural time that needs to be spent on the several stages before something is released.

The main issue with the company seems to be that they try to do a lot of stuff at the same time, but they are not experienced or capable enough to handle everything.
Hopefully this situation will improve but for now not even the digital deliveries can be expected to be on time, so even the logistics of digital files need to be improved.

 McDougall Designs wrote:

 legionaires wrote:

 GreenScorpion wrote:


While the things they have shown seem nice, I do wonder when any of this will actually appear in the wild.
To be honest it seems like they have lots of logistical issues even with their digital releases so we will likely see a GW traitor guard codex/supplement before these renegades reach plastic.

Yeah, I'm in that same boat. I've been waiting on their Afghan Cavalry for over a year myself. It was digitally previewed in September 2020 with a sprue shown in 2021 but since then, crickets. I love their stuff but I wish they would bring back the production timeline for upcoming products.

Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.

I missed that post, but at this point I have given up on this kit ever coming out. Between other kits that were shown at the same time already coming out (but based on the old schedulethis kit stayed in sculpting hell), the left field kits like the new Brits that were teased, and the complete lack of out interest from the Vox Populi, I don't see why WGA would waste time coming back to this kit now even though there was a physical sprue shown.

And just to add tone to my post, I'm not mad. I'm aware that businesses have to make hard decisions. I'm just let down is all as there is a lack of good non-armored cavalry that fit perfectly for what Im looking for. But I am also aware I'm just a single customer and based on the Vox Populi, noone else is interested in this kit. I would be excited about the new Rebel line that is being teased but again, we have no clue how long we will have to wait till a release.

Thanks for responding though.

From Facebook, some teasers for upcoming plastics.

I know these not-Traitor guys are meant to be regimental troopers wearing the same uniform, but given their ragged n' ratty look, I'm wondering how well they will scale and kitbash with the Broken from Maelstrom's Edge.

Cool idea from Talking Banana there actually.

Quite honestly all the sneak peaks for these renegade types looks appealing… I may finally invest

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
From Facebook, some teasers for upcoming plastics.

I really hope when these come out they do in close succession so folks can actually plan armes with full knowledge of which units are gonna be covered

(versus the infantry kit releasing now and heavy weapons maybe next year if the first one sells well)

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
From Facebook, some teasers for upcoming plastics.

I really hope when these come out they do in close succession so folks can actually plan armes with full knowledge of which units are gonna be covered

(versus the infantry kit releasing now and heavy weapons maybe next year if the first one sells well)

Yeah, this!

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/a-fireside-chat

Hudson has turned on the radio and broadcast a fireside chat.

People should read the whole thing but this is the big news probably regarding the renegade guard of which we've seen at least 3 kits teased in Friday newsletters

Secret Project

We’ve been hard at work on a secret project in partnership with a well-known tabletop gaming content brand. The goal of the project is to do something we’ve never done before and bring out an entire Death Fields army in one shot through a crowdfunding campaign. And by army we mean 6+ hard plastic sets in one shot! We’ll be making an announcement about this soon but we’re within a few weeks of launch so you’ll be hearing a LOT about it.

Get yer wallets ready!

Woah, that sounds pretty exciting!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
People should read the whole thing but this is the big news probably regarding the renegade guard of which we've seen at least 3 kits teased in Friday newsletters

Secret Project

We’ve been hard at work on a secret project in partnership with a well-known tabletop gaming content brand. The goal of the project is to do something we’ve never done before and bring out an entire Death Fields army in one shot through a crowdfunding campaign. And by army we mean 6+ hard plastic sets in one shot! We’ll be making an announcement about this soon but we’re within a few weeks of launch so you’ll be hearing a LOT about it.

Get yer wallets ready!

Infantry.
Command/ Heavy weapons.
Ogres.
Cavalry.

Split Command & Heavy into two sets rather than follow the Les Grognards example gives five kits.

Different types of Infantry for example a standard set of traitors plus a more 'elite' unit? Think Blood Pact as Tempestus equivalent vs standard Renegades.

Renegade Halfling Snipers?

Wow. That is exciting news.

Yea so I've been disparaging the whales who are gonna buy 50 boxes of GW chaff to build Horus Heresy Militia (and probably not even unwrap 49 of them) but here I am, ready to buy the whole range if Atlantic is doing a Kickstarter.

If a gamer is after a large sci-human army, a 24 - 30 model box for around £25 is a no-brainer especially if said gamer is not reliant on a GW store for gaming and isn't interested in tournaments.

Especially if they're doing a whole range at once with weapon teams, command, cavalry, ogryn, etc!

New information from Hudson.

8 seems like a lot for one project. I'd say either it includes tanks or there's two opposing factions.

Well.
infantry, cavalry and HWT are 3.
Assuming separate command instead of grognard we would be at 4 kits?ogres`5

To be a fully fledged army, it would then require a transportation vehicle. 6. A mbt 7. A reconnaisance vehicle/ and or artillery 8.


Also i think those drummag shotguns are ogre equivalents due to the detail being not present on the leg armor on the infantry and cavalry (talking about the small screw dots)

Assuming of course they follow the rough outlines of modern combined arms and army forces.
Alternativly we could see an elite infantry kit instead of reconnaisance?

Not Online!!! wrote:
Well.
infantry, cavalry and HWT are 3.
Assuming separate command instead of grognard we would be at 4 kits?ogres`5

To be a fully fledged army, it would then require a transportation vehicle. 6. A mbt 7. A reconnaisance vehicle/ and or artillery 8.


Also i think those drummag shotguns are ogre equivalents due to the detail being not present on the leg armor on the infantry and cavalry (talking about the small screw dots)

Assuming of course they follow the rough outlines of modern combined arms and army forces.
Alternativly we could see an elite infantry kit instead of reconnaisance?

As I mentioned earlier, I was thinking along the lines of a Blood Pact type or a Renegade Tempestus equivalent.

I'm going to say 2 factions each with Infantry, Cavalry, Heavy Weapons and Ogres. Feel free to make fun of me later.

8...

Assuming the prior ' no tanks' policy holds how about:

Slaves/cannon fodder
Infantry
Heavy/elite infantry
heavy weapons
Cavalry
Ogres
Command

And still got one more slot... Ratmen commandos?

WGA has a no tank policy?

Was it explicitly stated that this secret project was going to be scifi?

I don't remember reading that, but I don't recall anything being said what sort of trappings this project would fall under.

I'll admit, my first thought was more historical kits with terrain or something, a "battle in a box" type deal.

This is what happens when you skim things in a hurry though, so feel free to chastise me for being completely in the wrong.

I want these..... I want these real, real bad..... and I don't even play 40K anymore.

Since they have sculpted an Italian Carro Veloce 33 tankette (if only for digital release), there's a chance of a light scout vehicle like a dune buggy or trike. That assumes this is a sci-fi release. If fantasy or pre-gunpowder era historical, I could see this as:

I. Heavy line Infantry {Roman legionaries, Macedonian Phalangites, Chinese Warring States Infantry with polearms, or similar units who would have been the backbone of a force}.
II. Missile troops.
III. Command with bodyguard unit. {Anglo-Saxon King with Huscarls, Sengoku era daimyo with yojimbos and similar}
IV. Cavalry.

Like lord_blackfang, I think this might be a two sides of the same period/war release, so then the above would be mirrored.

I doubt it will fit historical modes of combat. Looks like you’ll get chaotic/post-apoc troops, HW/command, ogryns and cavalry from the images released so far. Speculation on the other four items seems to fit the “whole army in one campaign” mold rather than the “two forces starter box” mold, but who knows?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I doubt it will fit historical modes of combat. Looks like you’ll get chaotic/post-apoc troops, HW/command, ogryns and cavalry from the images released so far. Speculation on the other four items seems to fit the “whole army in one campaign” mold rather than the “two forces starter box” mold, but who knows?

Actually, I agree on the sci-fi aspect based on the previews. However, since there is no confirmation on the genre, I was speculating on other possibilities.