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Shadowbrand: Not to take a dump on your dreams, but i doubt you can play the guitar properly if you can't get a simple beat with drums.

That is unless, you gave up on drums without actually
giving it a proper try.

Shadowbrand wrote:@Frazzled. Well I wana be a guitarist, me and my friend *who sings* would start a band if we did good enough.

It also would prove I have talent outside of cutting up dead animals and painting miniatures.

Ok. have you looked into private lessons?


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Bla_Ze wrote:Shadowbrand: Not to take a dump on your dreams, but i doubt you can play the guitar properly if you can't get a simple beat with drums.

That is unless, you gave up on drums without actually
giving it a proper try.

There's 30 guys/gals in my boy's high school band who would beat you to death and use your skin for kettle drums for saying that. Ok, thaey'd just beat you to death. I'd be the one doing the skinning...you know...to save money...

It's the truth, if you are completley unable to learn a drum beat, i seriously doubt you could play the guitar.

Of course, playing a drum beat isn't about skill, your brain simply has to comprehend how the simultaneous movement is applied correctly.

Shadowbrand wrote:Well I think i will go and get a acoustic guitar. And try to get good!

Pfffft! Grandpas guitars.

You need a solid Ruby metronome.

Bla_Ze wrote:It's the truth, if you are completley unable to learn a drum beat, i seriously doubt you could play the guitar.

Of course, playing a drum beat isn't about skill, your brain simply has to comprehend how the simultaneous movement is applied correctly.

Drums include percussion, keyboards, a whole list of drums. The dumbass sterotypical band drum is just that.

Play a marumba and tell me its easier boyo.

Shadowbrand wrote:Well, I'm 16 I got years on my side.

And really? I thought girls always liked the singer.

Only until his voice changes.

Bla_Ze wrote:It's the truth, if you are completley unable to learn a drum beat, i seriously doubt you could play the guitar.

Of course, playing a drum beat isn't about skill, your brain simply has to comprehend how the simultaneous movement is applied correctly.

Yeah, thanks Spock... but doesn't that apply to ALL instruments? And isn't that, y'know, a type of skill?


CLUE: Yes


Drumming requires a lot of skill. Being able to play a 'basic beat' does not a drummer make. Trust me, I know.

@Shads - Yeah, obviously Vocalists attract women like a turd covered in jam attracts flies - but drummers do too. The type of girls attracted to vocalists are usually shallow, vain, slags. The type of girls that are attracted to drummers are (in my experience) more down-to-earth - the type of bird that can down a pint, and still look hot doing it. They are also dirty. Very, very dirty.
Did I mention I am a vocalist who used to be a drummer?

Shadowbrand wrote:I'm thinking about gettign a guitar instead of a drum set. I played on drums for the 4th time ever at the music store with someone showing me ropes. And I couldn't keep the beat to save my life.

What should I do?

You ain't gonna learn rhythm from just 4 goes anyway so I wouldn't worry - my rhythm was terrible when I 1st started playing bongos in me mates band years ago (they only wanted me for my comedy hairstyle I'm sure). Now I play the drum pretty good (ok anyway) - and guitar, banjo, keyboards (a little) and tomorrow I'm buying an accoustic bass for 25 quid which is wicked (it is painted pink though - which is definitely not).

Just go for the one you wanna play most - don't worry what you sound like now - you are gonna sound bad for a while whatever instrument you learn mate

@Bla_ze Well I know I can do something if I truly TRULY put my mind to it. Like I used to be dreadful at painting and well in January I placed 2nd in a painting competition.

Also my drummer trainer didn't really like me I think.

@Frazz

Yes I am looking into that, once I get the guitar I hope after a check or two.

@Albatross.

Never thought of it like that, well lets see where the Norns take me in life.

Maybe I will be a drummer! Maybe a guitarist!!

Play which ever one you are most attracted to - you'll have more motivation to practice if you feel passionate about your chosen instrument.

Have you tried Bass? Bass is pretty cool, plus you can play it stoned, which helps.




You can't do that with Drums.

/sadface

Whats on my mind? Lots.

My local comic store is closing. . Well, moving to another town that's about an hour away.
My buddy is starting to get serious about trying 40k, awesome.
One more day of standardized tests. YAY!
My English teacher has a concussion from a weight hitting her in drama two days ago, she might not be in the rest of the week. . She's an awesome teacher.
MGS4 is officially awesome. (Yeah, I'm two years late to the party. sue me.)
Why do women yell on the phone, when it's a perfectly clear connection?
Is texting always this complicated when you start out?
I wanna learn guitar. Just a few chords to play some Ramone's songs.

Wow, that's quite a bit.

Just quickly on the acoustic/electric finger strength issue.

Since an acoustic has to create its own noise it has big beefy strings, and they tend to be raised a little higher above the fretboard. Electrics strings are generally much finer and easier to get a noise out of, since the guitar doesn't need to do the heavy lifting volume-wise. Both require finger strength, but acoustic more so.


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Golden Eyed Scout wrote:
MGS4 is officially awesome. (Yeah, I'm two years late to the party. sue me.)
I wanna learn guitar. Just a few chords to play some Ramone's songs.

I remember when I first played MGS IV...I played 6 hours, went to bed, then played the next 12 hours. That game is fething amazing. Hideo Kojima is working on the next Castlevania, so look out for that.

You only need one chord to play just about everything by The Ramones. And the Sex Pistols.

The awesome guitar in Burzum and Bathory have sealed the deal. I know every git has a guitar but I will strive to be above that. Maybe even the next Zakk wylde.

Or Alexi from Children of Bodom.

Albatross wrote:

Bla_Ze wrote:It's the truth, if you are completley unable to learn a drum beat, i seriously doubt you could play the guitar.

Of course, playing a drum beat isn't about skill, your brain simply has to comprehend how the simultaneous movement is applied correctly.

Yeah, thanks Spock... but doesn't that apply to ALL instruments? And isn't that, y'know, a type of skill?

CLUE: Yes

Drumming requires a lot of skill. Being able to play a 'basic beat' does not a drummer make. Trust me, I know.

Please dont act like a tard on my behaf. Oh this is your natural self? Sorry, apologies.

As i said a simple drum beat requires coordination not skill, unlike something like simple saxophone melodies, that require technique but not much coordiantion.

Anyway, enough pleasantries.

Tips från coachen
@Shadowbrand: if you are learning the guitar. Please start with the accoustic. Learn notes, id say its worth it.
If you are starting out with the electric, remember to pick properly from the beginning, makes it a WHOLE lot easier. Learn correct finger/band placement. ALSO LEARN TO USE THAT PINKY on the "fourth" band, even if its weak and feeble.

Remember rome wasn't built in one night, all those whores and thieves had to migrate over time


Edited: For the purpose of not reciving as many kicks in the face from Frazzled.

Woot!!! now my hopes and dreams are getting egotistic.

My light just burnt out too is this a sign from the gods?

Even after completing alot of bioware's games im still amazed by their amazng stroytelling.
After playing dragon age i might not be able to go back too wow.

garret wrote:Even after completing alot of bioware's games im still amazed by their amazng stroytelling.
After playing dragon age i might not be able to go back too wow.

Yes, the Baldurs Gate games was pure gold. Shame there will be nothing that can live up to them..

Yeah, I'm playing ME2 right now. That series is officially awesome.

I want to go back to bed :(

I think I might have a late night tonight. I've got an essay to do for my graphic design class and I'm too lazy to do it before dinner.

Why am I reading this instead of going to work?

Boy, did today just bite the big one or what? Egad! Lobotomies for all!

Bla_Ze wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Bla_Ze wrote:It's the truth, if you are completley unable to learn a drum beat, i seriously doubt you could play the guitar.

Of course, playing a drum beat isn't about skill, your brain simply has to comprehend how the simultaneous movement is applied correctly.

Yeah, thanks Spock... but doesn't that apply to ALL instruments? And isn't that, y'know, a type of skill?

CLUE: Yes

Drumming requires a lot of skill. Being able to play a 'basic beat' does not a drummer make. Trust me, I know.

Please dont act like a tard on my behaf. Oh this is your natural self? Sorry, apologies.

As i said a simple drum beat requires coordination not skill, unlike something like simple saxophone melodies, that require technique but not much coordiantion.

Your personal attack has been duly noted.

And you're wrong. Seriously. Almost to the point that it seems like you're making things up as you go along. Saxaphone melodies require technique but not much co-ordination? Really? That statement shows that your grasp of either Music or the English language is pretty woeful.

Bla_Ze wrote:

Personal mud-slinging aside, that is without a doubt the best O RLY Owl. Ever.

To get to writing about the mood I have, I have to write the scene that caused the mood, which intensifies the mood which...... I'm screwed.

I've just realised, I read OT like someone who reads the newspaper, but on a slow news day. And I got a scenario to explain this better.

A man is at a table reading the news paper...

"Well, thats interesting..." says the man.

"What's interesting honney?" asks his wife, bringing him in what appears to be a sandwich for breakfast

"It appears someone on the internet has lost faith in society..."

"EGADS!" proclaimed the wife, dropping the sandwich to the ground in shock, the plate it was on breaks in two.

"Quite..." says the man, not noticing his wife dropping his breakfast.

Today fething sucks. My alarm clock was a hour wrong, so here I was thinking I was late. When really i'm early. My MP3 player is on the verge of dieing and I had to skip a shower in the rush I was in.

*sigh*

Shadowbrand wrote:Today fething sucks. My alarm clock was a hour wrong, so here I was thinking I was late. When really i'm early. My MP3 player is on the verge of dieing and I had to skip a shower in the rush I was in.

*sigh*

Bummer but such is the faith of heretics my dear. Anyways just got my sweaty hands on my long awaited package from GW... Ash clouds I damn you all to somewhere warm.

Albatross wrote:

Bla_Ze wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Bla_Ze wrote:It's the truth, if you are completley unable to learn a drum beat, i seriously doubt you could play the guitar.

Of course, playing a drum beat isn't about skill, your brain simply has to comprehend how the simultaneous movement is applied correctly.

Yeah, thanks Spock... but doesn't that apply to ALL instruments? And isn't that, y'know, a type of skill?

CLUE: Yes

Drumming requires a lot of skill. Being able to play a 'basic beat' does not a drummer make. Trust me, I know.

Please dont act like a tard on my behaf. Oh this is your natural self? Sorry, apologies.

As i said a simple drum beat requires coordination not skill, unlike something like simple saxophone melodies, that require technique but not much coordiantion.

Your personal attack has been duly noted.

And you're wrong. Seriously. Almost to the point that it seems like you're making things up as you go along. Saxaphone melodies require technique but not much co-ordination? Really? That statement shows that your grasp of either Music or the English language is pretty woeful.

Forget him. he doesn't know what percussion is, and thinks its limited to little drummer boy.
Each instrument is different. Each instrument is easy until you try to play it.

I have mastered my "instrument"....