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Then they're retconning the original "the entire Legion was affected by the change".

Was the sergeant Terran? That may be where they're going with it.

Can someone post a 100% spoiler filled review of PROMETHEAN SUN so I don't feel too bad/sad for missing out on spending $86 for a novella?

Also, please take the Thousand Sons/Blood Ravens debate to a different thread in a different section of the forum!

Thanks!

Alpharius wrote:Can someone post a 100% spoiler filled review of PROMETHEAN SUN so I don't feel too bad/sad for missing out on spending $86 for a novella?

Also, please take the Thousand Sons/Blood Ravens debate to a different thread in a different section of the forum!

Thanks!

I've been wondering whether I wanted someone to do this or not or whether I'm willing to wait the 2+ years 'til it's released normally...

I'm not willing to wait 2+ years, plus, I am bitter that BL charged $36 to ship a book to the US.

So, post away someone, please!

At that shipping cost, the book better break the laws of physics and arrive before it ships.

$86 total was a complete deal breaker for me.

And it hurt, because I'm all about Pre-Heresy and Heresy Era stuff.

Painful as it was, I had to... pass on it!

Argh!

In an email with Mr Abnett, he confirmed that Know No Fear is regarding the Battle of Calth, which should be pretty frickin' awesome...

Also, I thought the Rubric only affected certain brothers, those who were less psyker able, which is why in game terms squads could be led by a sorcerer. Who I believed werentt affected by the rubric.


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Sorry, somehow missed the page here... my bad... will shut up about blood ravens now

@Alpharius: And I thought £40 (or $65.50) was bad enough, I haven't received mine yet but if I get chance I'll let you know whether I should have saved my money

Edit: What sucks the most is I'm paying £10 for delivery and I only live round the corner from where it's being dispatched from

I know I've said it a few times before, but the delivery fees for these limited editions are really out of whack.

The book is expensive enough to begin with, I'm not sure why (other than "because they can" and "it makes them a LOT more money") they set it so high...

Alpharius wrote:I know I've said it a few times before, but the delivery fees for these limited editions are really out of whack.

The book is expensive enough to begin with, I'm not sure why (other than "because they can" and "it makes them a LOT more money") they set it so high...

I agree. Well next time they release a limited edition and/or if the current one is still in stock I can collect/receive one and post it to you if you want? That'd save you a fair bit I'd imagine?

No doubt it would, and I think I'll take you up on it!

PROMETHEAN SUN focused on Salamanders, Death Guard and Iron Hands, I think.

I really would have liked to get it, but, you know... too late now, as the only remaining copies are on sale at 'live events only', which is great if you can get one as it will be even cheaper there, though I imagine harder to acquire...

If there's ever one on certain Legions, well, I think I will accept your generous offer of help!

This book caught me at the wrong time, no money at all. If it had just come out next week when my pay appears I would have got it! I do hope we are given spoilers here I love them so much and to know other people are getting lore years in advance to me is a painful feeling!

Alpharius wrote:No doubt it would, and I think I'll take you up on it!

PROMETHEAN SUN focused on Salamanders, Death Guard and Iron Hands, I think.

I really would have liked to get it, but, you know... too late now, as the only remaining copies are on sale at 'live events only', which is great if you can get one as it will be even cheaper there, though I imagine harder to acquire...

If there's ever one on certain Legions, well, I think I will accept your generous offer of help!

That'd be absolutely fine with me Alph, the offer was genuinely sincere.

The problem for me wasn't so much the postage (clearly), but that it was £40 for a book, which whilst I love the HH is a bit much, particularly when I don't care too much for the Legions represented. Tbh, if it was Abnett, ADB or McNiell then I probably would've considered it a bit more, but even then...
As I said though, just contact me if you do want to take me up on that offer.

I think the way the Horus heresy series is being done in all sorts of formats such as audio, paperback and now the limited edition hardback that is insanely expensive is kinda lame. I love the series but my main criticism is the fact that I feel like I am missing out on a huge part of the story by missing an audio release or in this case Promethean Sun. The price is one issues but making it so limited as to make others following the story miss out is almost wrong unless they have plans of putting it to paperback soon for everyone who over the last few years spent the cash to keep up with the series.

Just Dave wrote:

Alpharius wrote:No doubt it would, and I think I'll take you up on it!

PROMETHEAN SUN focused on Salamanders, Death Guard and Iron Hands, I think.

I really would have liked to get it, but, you know... too late now, as the only remaining copies are on sale at 'live events only', which is great if you can get one as it will be even cheaper there, though I imagine harder to acquire...

If there's ever one on certain Legions, well, I think I will accept your generous offer of help!

That'd be absolutely fine with me Alph, the offer was genuinely sincere.

The problem for me wasn't so much the postage (clearly), but that it was £40 for a book, which whilst I love the HH is a bit much, particularly when I don't care too much for the Legions represented. Tbh, if it was Abnett, ADB or McNiell then I probably would've considered it a bit more, but even then...
As I said though, just contact me if you do want to take me up on that offer.

If it was Abnett or ADB I'd have bought the hell out of it and splurged my entire 'fun shenanigan'(tm) budget for two months on it.

I think the 'live events only' was to imply Games Days. So you can likely get one from Chicago this year.

Kanluwen wrote:If it was Abnett or ADB I'd have bought the hell out of it and splurged my entire 'fun shenanigan'(tm) budget for two months on it.

Wow Kan. Those are some cheap hookers!

... What?

Just Dave wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:If it was Abnett or ADB I'd have bought the hell out of it and splurged my entire 'fun shenanigan'(tm) budget for two months on it.

Wow Kan. Those are some cheap hookers!

... What?

No, my 'fun shenanigan' budget for a month is $150.

So if it had been by Abnett or ADB, I'd have been willing to spend alot.

Bl have updated their events page with a list of which authors will be at what event and also how many of the last few remaining copies of Promethean Sun will be on sale.

.. Good to see Bill King at GD UK this year, and that's a nice line up of authors for GD USA as well.


http://www.blacklibrary.com/Events

OK then - if some kind soul who is attending one of these live events could pick me up a copy of PROMETHEAN SUN and then post it over to me here in the US, I'll make it worth your while, plus, you know, be very grateful as well!

Sept. 25th seems like the best chance!

Alpharius wrote:I know I've said it a few times before, but the delivery fees for these limited editions are really out of whack.

The book is expensive enough to begin with, I'm not sure why (other than "because they can" and "it makes them a LOT more money") they set it so high...

Im with you on this. I dont mind paying the price for a good limited ed. book. but i wont pay the same again for shipping. period.

You know, for the price paid you'd think you'd get track and trace.

Blame Royal Mail!

Kanluwen wrote:Blame Royal Mail!

Seeing as these books are sent via an entirely different and separate courier company that is nothing to do with the Royal Mail that would seem somewhat harsh no ?

reds8n wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Blame Royal Mail!

Seeing as these books are sent via an entirely different and separate courier company that is nothing to do with the Royal Mail that would seem somewhat harsh no ?

I reiterate: Blame Royal Mail!

But I've yet to figure out who the courier company is. Because they also do FW's stuff as well.

I'm puzzled as to why it goes through Sweden, Italy, and Greece to reach me here in the US.

Is it not
http://www.ups.com/content/gb/en/shipping/ then ?

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Exclusive-Products/Collectors-Editions/promethean-sun.html

Due to the rarity of this item orders containing Promethean Sun will only be shipped via express UPS delivery.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Exclusive-Products/Collectors-Editions/Iron-Warrior.html

Due to the limited numbers of this product we will only ship copies via UPS.

Most of the times I've gotten stuff from BL/FW it comes through regular old USPS.

UPS has delivered FW's big hardbacks though, so maybe there's something going on.

Lol, you could still blame Royal Mail if you want.

They are much cheaper than UPS but their reliablility is not too hot on international items.

I use DHL to send stuff to China because even tracked special delivery royal mail keeps going missing almost all the time.

Saying that they have never lost anything that I have sent to the States. With something so rare maybe they do not want to risk getting stung.

Kanluwen wrote:Then they're retconning the original "the entire Legion was affected by the change".

Was the sergeant Terran? That may be where they're going with it.

Are you serious Kan? There have been NUMEROUS hints that Blood Ravens come from Tk-Sons, the most incredible being the novel, A Thousand Sons that mentions Ravens of Blood.

Frankly, thinking it's any other chapter at this point is missing the huge WINK from BL authors.

Ozymandias wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Then they're retconning the original "the entire Legion was affected by the change".

Was the sergeant Terran? That may be where they're going with it.

Are you serious Kan? There have been NUMEROUS hints that Blood Ravens come from Tk-Sons, the most incredible being the novel, A Thousand Sons that mentions Ravens of Blood.

Frankly, thinking it's any other chapter at this point is missing the huge WINK from BL authors.

You know what they say about ignorance.