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So nothing new's been here since May...

When is this thread going to pass the mantle to a new one in the N&R section with some newer evidence/rules/reliable sources etc.?

Anpu-adom wrote:How awesome would it be to play a game where the only restriction of the list is that you have to use the full FOC? That would be a heck of a game to see.

Something in the area of 4800 points of necrons teleporting around the board... it would be great.

Would that, would that actually balance out?

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:So nothing new's been here since May...

When is this thread going to pass the mantle to a new one in the N&R section with some newer evidence/rules/reliable sources etc.?

When Necrons appear on the back page of the White Dwarf.

More juicy rumors from Bell of Lost Souls http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necrons-awaken-scarabs.html. I for one like the notion of Scarab swarms washing over the enemy and melting them in place, because that's essentially what these rumors indicate. Huge swarms just corroding the most hardened Imperium alloys and Spare Marine armor over time and through sheer swarms. If this is true I will certainly be incorporating large swarms of Scarabs into my Necron army. Love this.

For the lazy

BOLS Bigred wrote:Updated Necron Background
Necrons have now fully awakened. All previously encountered Necrons were "bugs" in the reawakening program and were under the sway of the two rogue C'tan. Now fully awakened, the Necrons are ready for their advancing story arc in the codex. That said, they are effectively "Space Tomb King" with strong parallels in both unit back story and visual appearance linking them to that Warhammer Fantasy army book.

Updated Scarabs
Fast Attack choice. Three models in base unit at 45 pts, with up to seven more at 15 pts per model. Fearless, Swarms, Beast, Entropic Strike. Fout attacks on the charge with 3+ cover save in terrain (which they ignore for movement purposes - like Harlequins) . Entropic Strike is a new rules accessable to several units in the codex. Against infantry on to-wound rolls of 4+, armor saves are ignored (Invulnerables allowed). Against vehicles on armor penetration rolls, each die that rolls a 4+, reduces the vehicle's armor by 1 pt on ALL sides for the rest of the game. Vehicles are destroyed when any of its armor values reach 0.

So for 15 pts, they get rippers with a 24" threat range that aren't slowed by difficult terrain, gawd-like rending in CC, and they don't eat themselves. .
*looks at Hive Fleet Masochist*
Maybe I should repaint them in an olive tone.

I hope those Scarab rumours are true, they seem to be returning to their original purpose. Now that the Necrons are fully awakened, we should be getting a nice juicy unit selection like the Dark Eldar codex.

"Rogue C'tan" I don't like the sounds of that, I hope they are still the overlords they are set as in what fluff we already have.

I dont no whether to be terrified or horrified! My friend is playing necrons next :(

Iggyrocksall wrote:I dont no whether to be terrified or horrified! My friend is playing necrons next :(

I've technically been playing Necrons since the codex came out in 3rd ed. so I will have no shame when I buy up all the new juicy, OP models

Oh no, Tau armor fails again in cc. goodbye firewarriors.

Oh great...Space Tombkings...

i love the sound of those scarabs, generally i use them for vehicle hunting, but now, there even better

Awakened Necrons? Moving the story forward? Giving the middle finger to all previous Necron authors? Written by Matt Ward?

Oh god here comes the trainwreck codex called Necronz.

I like this.

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Necron "rumours" I guess is as good a place to put this

In the BL book PAth of the Seer, out this weekend theres a flashback memory of a battle against the Necrons

Gold coloured warriors, Flayed ones, Destroyers and Scarabs are mentioned, but not by name

Also there are smaller monoliths that act only as gun turrets, and a quote;

Quote:
"One of the suns was setting and in the dimming light the pyramid changed. Another section of the gleaming metal slid away to reveal an immense hanger like space. From the darkness emerged a terrifying apparition, glowing with green energy. it looked like a cross between a building and a warrior, a huge construct with a dozen heads and batteries of weapons set about a complex, ever-shifting geometric core.
The necrontyr war machine loomed over the battlefield, sheathed in a baleful glow that warded away the blasts of bright lances and scatter lasers. An orb at its centre spun faster and faster, crackling with energy that crawled along arcane circuitary to the blisters of the weapons turrets.
With a blinding flash, green lightning arced down upon the eldar army, shredding tanks and aspect warriors in a barrage of pyrotecnic destruction. Whole squads were vaporised. Falcons exploded or were sheared into small pieces"

I can't think of anything matching the description in the current Nec book. Now I know BL books aren't the best place to go for rumours....but could be something?

It also mentioned Scarabs destroying Jetbikes and Tanks, by climbing onto them and self destructing in large numbers
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Dont know about you but that quote sounds very much like the Necromancer, seeing as it was rumored to have a crystal core and to use heat weapons, both of which are mentioned in that quote, if so it sounds awesome

Ctan_Overlord wrote:Copied from BoLS:
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Necron "rumours" I guess is as good a place to put this

In the BL book PAth of the Seer, out this weekend theres a flashback memory of a battle against the Necrons

Gold coloured warriors, Flayed ones, Destroyers and Scarabs are mentioned, but not by name

Also there are smaller monoliths that act only as gun turrets, and a quote;

Quote:
"One of the suns was setting and in the dimming light the pyramid changed. Another section of the gleaming metal slid away to reveal an immense hanger like space. From the darkness emerged a terrifying apparition, glowing with green energy. it looked like a cross between a building and a warrior, a huge construct with a dozen heads and batteries of weapons set about a complex, ever-shifting geometric core.
The necrontyr war machine loomed over the battlefield, sheathed in a baleful glow that warded away the blasts of bright lances and scatter lasers. An orb at its centre spun faster and faster, crackling with energy that crawled along arcane circuitary to the blisters of the weapons turrets.
With a blinding flash, green lightning arced down upon the eldar army, shredding tanks and aspect warriors in a barrage of pyrotecnic destruction. Whole squads were vaporised. Falcons exploded or were sheared into small pieces"

I can't think of anything matching the description in the current Nec book. Now I know BL books aren't the best place to go for rumours....but could be something?

It also mentioned Scarabs destroying Jetbikes and Tanks, by climbing onto them and self destructing in large numbers
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Dont know about you but that quote sounds very much like the Necromancer, seeing as it was rumored to have a crystal core and to use heat weapons, both of which are mentioned in that quote, if so it sounds awesome

i wonder if its a necro apoc weapon.

Sounds like a necrobliterator.

If they're not mindless autonomotans (except perhaps Necron Lords having a mild sense of identity) and aren't under the control of the C'tan, I will be majorly pissed.

Harriticus wrote:If they're not mindless autonomotans (except perhaps Necron Lords having a mild sense of identity) and aren't under the control of the C'tan, I will be majorly pissed.

Oh so you're already pissed.

terranarc wrote:

Harriticus wrote:If they're not mindless autonomotans (except perhaps Necron Lords having a mild sense of identity) and aren't under the control of the C'tan, I will be majorly pissed.

Oh so you're already pissed.

Pretty much. A cold, dark army of silent machines with not even an ounce of empathy under the control of demented Star Vampires out to harvest all life is a much cooler concept then what the rumors are suggesting.

Nothing stopping you from running yours that way.

If i was to run Grey Knights, for example, my fluff would be old-school Puritan grey knights, not the batcrap crazy Radical poseurs they are now

Ascalam wrote:Nothing stopping you from running yours that way.
If i was to run Grey Knights, for example, my fluff would be old-school Puritan grey knights, not the batcrap crazy Radical poseurs they are now

Ha, GKs and their "And They Shall Know Fear But Be Able To Control It Well" rule is so silly. There was a time when GK's were the fearless, skilled monolithic challengers of chaos everywhere without the need of towering baby carrier poorly designed mech. Oh ward, I hope you get syphilis from Gav Thorpe.

I hear that GWs in britain have been ordered to return all unsold Necrons by the end of September. make of that what you will...

Isengard wrote:I hear that GWs in britain have been ordered to return all unsold Necrons by the end of September. make of that what you will...

From who/where?

Probably should be quite coy on this, with the way GW are now it could get someone in the ****!

Just put it this way it was not made up and came from a very reliable source.

My understanding is Ogres for WHFB in September and Necrons in october. Ogres are really doing the rounds so this seems quite convincing.

The October date is based on the supposition that Necrons are next to come out for 40K and Ogres are definitely coming out next.

Staffers at my local GW are happy to speculate that necrons are next up but are not told specifically in advance. GW has gone to announcing 2 weeks in advance with no leaks in advance of that (or heads roll/jobs are forfeit!)

Note: Necron codex is no longer available through GW website, again make of that what you will!


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It is worth noting, of course, that with GW's current policy of disinformation and hard crack-down on leaks all that I hear could be so much BS, or the person could think they know what they know and be subject to the same GW disinformation. I know for certain that the codex is written and the new miniatures are done, but when the actual release will be is still anyone's guess. However, I tend to trust the information I have as it came from a good source, but could still be incorrect!

Isengard wrote:Probably should be quite coy on this, with the way GW are now it could get someone in the ****!

Just put it this way it was not made up and came from a very reliable source.

My understanding is Ogres for WHFB in September and Necrons in october. Ogres are really doing the rounds so this seems quite convincing.

The October date is based on the supposition that Necrons are next to come out for 40K and Ogres are definitely coming out next.

Staffers at my local GW are happy to speculate that necrons are next up but are not told specifically in advance. GW has gone to announcing 2 weeks in advance with no leaks in advance of that (or heads roll/jobs are forfeit!)

Note: Necron codex is no longer available through GW website, again make of that what you will!


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It is worth noting, of course, that with GW's current policy of disinformation and hard crack-down on leaks all that I hear could be so much BS, or the person could think they know what they know and be subject to the same GW disinformation. I know for certain that the codex is written and the new miniatures are done, but when the actual release will be is still anyone's guess. However, I tend to trust the information I have as it came from a good source, but could still be incorrect!

My excitement factor just shot way up. Then again, I could have just been massively trolled.

Nope, I am just trying to be honest and put in the necessary disclaimers! It is getting much harder to get info out of GW at the moment as they have clamped down on leakers and generally tightened up their security. I don't know exactly why but the rumours are less secure now than they might be. Personally I think the Necrons are imminent but, as I say I could be proved wrong and my sources could be wrong. Hold the excitement but also be prepared as it cannot be long.


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Apologies all, haven't made many posts and still getting the right style, not trying to lead anyone on a wild goose chase on this one, just reporting what I was told that I have to reason to feel is pretty reliable.

Further update. GWs are now unable to order in any Necrons except the battleforce, all the rest are no longer being delivered. Stocks being run down?


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Change that to GWs are not having any other stock delivered (they usually get certain core units for every army every week so long as they sell the stock. GW are only sending out battleforces centrally now. There is still some stock of other Necrons which can be ordered direct from GW or via stores, but it is not being sent as a matter of course.

Heard that the ogres pics doing the rounds were only sent to a handful of GW staff. Somebody leaked them and they are being sought with a will to sack them.

Isengard wrote:Further update. GWs are now unable to order in any Necrons except the battleforce, all the rest are no longer being delivered. Stocks being run down?


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Change that to GWs are not having any other stock delivered (they usually get certain core units for every army every week so long as they sell the stock. GW are only sending out battleforces centrally now. There is still some stock of other Necrons which can be ordered direct from GW or via stores, but it is not being sent as a matter of course.

Heard that the ogres pics doing the rounds were only sent to a handful of GW staff. Somebody leaked them and they are being sought with a will to sack them.

Thats interesting ( and very devious of GW ) I guess that means we may see a reduction in leaks from now on if that is true, either way, hopefully this months WD may give us some clues and or a confirmation that Necrons are coming in October.

Heard also that GW's newsletter gives some hints linking Necrons to Bonfire Night - 5th November for the non-Brits. Again, though nothing conclusive, but it is certainly and definitely imminent, a matter ofweeks with any luck for our Necron friends!


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WD this month to feature Ogres muchly as that is the about-to-occur release.

Isengard wrote:Heard also that GW's newsletter gives some hints linking Necrons to Bonfire Night - 5th November for the non-Brits. Again, though nothing conclusive, but it is certainly and definitely imminent, a matter ofweeks with any luck for our Necron friends!

I will remember that 5th of November.