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I got this in a PM, and was asked to pass it along, so here you go. I'll stress that these aren't MY rumors (i have no GW sources ) but they seem to tie in to the other rumors pretty well:


" Hi, I've noticed you on YMDC previously, and that you are a fellow tinhead. I was hoping you'd do me a favor.

It just so happens that I have advance information on both a tiny pinch of rules and a tiny pinch of fluff for Necrons. Because my source is very close to GW and distinguishable, I'd prefer to have someone that I definitely don't know divulge this information to the net for me, so as to protect my source's confidentiality. Feel free to post this as idle speculation if you want, but I am so confident in my source that I believe parts of what I am about to tell you to be 100% true.

First, starting with fluff, comes the revelation that Necrons are much more self-aware than previously thought. They have risen up and enslaved the C'tan (100% on this). Look for C'tan to be customizable and take up a heavy support slot, similar to Daemon Princes (This part is me speculating).

Second, Scarabs are going to be extremely good. They will be among the best, if not the best unit in the game when it comes to destroying tanks. They also will have the ability to increase armor saves, similar to the Ork Choppas of old (100% on this).

You officially heard this from a guy that talked to a guy that read the codex, but he may have been British or American, you can't be sure. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Thanks,
A guy that talked to a guy "



Salt to taste.

Sounds very similar to Yakface's rumors

I'm going on vacation and coming back when the Codex: Necrons is out. I can't take anymore of this awesomesauce for the time being, it's too tasty...

*sigh* Enslaved C'tan? Exterminates all the fluff that got me into Necrons...Strike one GW...Strike one. Matt Ward...I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said...

I am dying for a competitive codex. My three armies are Tyranids, Tau, and Necrons. I'm dying to go on a winning streak! Damn my love for stylized armies rather than the FotM marines that are dominating local tournaments!

As far as the C'tan being enslaved, part of the recent fluff rumors mentioned something about "the necron incursion up until now were isolated incidents caused by rogue c'tan, and now the necrons are awakening in force"

That statement about "rogue c'tan"... almost makes you wonder if the void dragon is about to wake up? That would make the deceiver and nightbringer getting enslaved seem slightly more doable.

Well if those rumors are true about the changes in the necron codex then things have changed drastically. I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but it sounds interesting to say the least.

Personally, I've always loved the Tomb Kings, but disliked the Necrons (ironically, I love the Orks, but dislike the Greenskins). This might actually make Necrons more interesting for me.

Not gonna start a new army, of course.

Anvildude wrote:Personally, I've always loved the Tomb Kings, but disliked the Necrons (ironically, I love the Orks, but dislike the Greenskins). This might actually make Necrons more interesting for me.

Not gonna start a new army, of course.

While I am sure there is nothing wrong with the Tomb Kings, completely rewriting a faction to more resemble its Fantasy counterpart is a jerkface move on GW's part.

I wanna see GW go out of business and have to sell their IP. At least then 40k will stand a chance, maybe Privateer Press will buy them and we can have a decent game and hobby again.

Fuegan wrote:I wanna see GW go out of business and have to sell their IP. At least then 40k will stand a chance, maybe Privateer Press will buy them and we can have a decent game and hobby again.

I would like to see Fantasy Flight take over the rules development for 40k. GW is a great model making company, but a meh rules making company.

Great. November is toO far!

to break away from the current tone, I am actually really happy with these rumors. Also i am hoping/guessing? that the enslaved c'tan are some of the ones we have not heard about yet, and that the rogue c'tan are the nightbringer, deceiver etc.

To me the rumors sound like the best of both worlds. If you still want to field NB or the Deceiver, you still will be able to. If you want a custom C'tan or one that is enslaved, you'll have that option as well. But either way it will not be taking up an HQ slot and IMO, that is good for everyone. Fluff is fluff and is meant to be open to different interpretations. It is an intentional part of the 40kuniverse which leaves the creative department open to doing different things and allows players to set up any battle and make it plausible with the fluff.

tiekwando wrote:to break away from the current tone, I am actually really happy with these rumors. Also i am hoping/guessing? that the enslaved c'tan are some of the ones we have not heard about yet, and that the rogue c'tan are the nightbringer, deceiver etc.

The Nightbringer and Deceiver having to run and hide like little girls from their former Necron slaves is pretty cool.

I'm being sarcastic, by the way.

C'tan are now the Necrons slaves. Apparently that fist bump with Dante initiated a revolt. /rollseyes. Hopefully the fluff is decent, the models look good, and the rules are strong. That way in 2021 we can have the same argument again.

tetrisphreak wrote:I am dying for a competitive codex. My three armies are Tyranids, Tau, and Necrons. I'm dying to go on a winning streak! Damn my love for stylized armies rather than the FotM marines that are dominating local tournaments!

Now THIS made me laugh.

I play;
Tau, Tyranids and Necons.

I even took my Tau to a recent large con, and was the ONLY tau player there.

I was strongly considering my necrons, but they are not fully painted...

I am VERY excited about the new codex...I will just be somewhat disappointed if they radically change the fluff, as to be honest, it was what convinced me to play them.

I also hope they do not dramatically change...I mean, whats the possibility of a new dex really just being an upgrade?

Updated rumors from Bell of Lost Souls http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-monolith-edition.html

Straight rip from BoLS

The Basics
Everyone's favorite lunchbox of doom is said to cost roughly 200pts, and keep its current 14/14/14 Armor all round. It is a Skimmer, Tank that can Deepstrike as usual. The Monolith can fire all its weapons regardless of movement. Its Living Metal (in its new form) remains.

The Guns
In big news, the four corner mounted Gauss Flux Arcs remain, but are said to each be able to split fire and nail separate targets in some manner. The top mounted Ring Pop is now a standard ordinance weapon without all the fiddly rules.

The Glowy Door!!!
But by far, the biggest change is said to be the glowy door, now renamed The Eternal Gate - which now has a nasty offensive ability. The Gate can make all models within 3" take a Strength characteristic test - or risk being sucked into the gate and removed from play with no saves of any kind allowed.

I personally think The Eternal Gate is not likely going to make it into the Codex. It's a good fluffy rule, but it's utterly useless unless you deep strike the Monolith right on top of an enemy squad and use it.

peebzguy wrote:I personally think The Eternal Gate is not likely going to make it into the Codex. It's a good fluffy rule, but it's utterly useless unless you deep strike the Monolith right on top of an enemy squad and use it.

When getting assaulted? Objective holding? That would be quite a nice intimidating rule, a much needed assault deterent for Necrons.

samrtk wrote:

peebzguy wrote:I personally think The Eternal Gate is not likely going to make it into the Codex. It's a good fluffy rule, but it's utterly useless unless you deep strike the Monolith right on top of an enemy squad and use it.

When getting assaulted? Objective holding? That would be quite a nice intimidating rule, a much needed assault deterent for Necrons.

True. If I thought for more than 15 seconds about it then I might have come up with that

And it'll open up all sorts of new nicknames for army builds!

The Hoover of Doom, to fight the Leafblower. 3 Monoliths creepin' up the table, suckin' up everything in their path! Don't vehicles or models without a Strength stat auto-fail tests?

Anvildude wrote:And it'll open up all sorts of new nicknames for army builds!

The Hoover of Doom, to fight the Leafblower. 3 Monoliths creepin' up the table, suckin' up everything in their path! Don't vehicles or models without a Strength stat auto-fail tests?

Legit LOL from me, I let out the biggest belly laugh for Hoover of Doom... that was great.

See, Vacuum of Doom rhymes better, but with Hoover you get that doubledouble 'o' in there, so it reads better. double 'o's are funny.

Though Vacuum of Duum is amusing, it also looks stupid.

Enslaved C'Tan??!!

GRRR!

That made me RAGE!!!!!



Necrons, by the fluff of the codex we have at the mo are enslaved BY the C'Tan, not the other way round!
And they weren't meant to have any self-awarence, save the immortals and lords...


Still, I suppose I could ignore it that bit of the fluff and make my own, unless GW creates some rule to go along with this...



I hope our 'friend' Ward ACTUALLY gets told to stop messing up our beloved 40K races.

BA was ok
GK, I can live with,
EDIT: SoB, getting to close for comfort...
'crons, RRRRRRAAAAAGGGGEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!


Please don't get bad fluff
please?

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Enslaved C'Tan??!!

GRRR!

That made me RAGE!!!!!



Necrons, by the fluff of the codex we have at the mo are enslaved BY the C'Tan, not the other way round!
And they weren't meant to have any self-awarence, save the immortals and lords...


Still, I suppose I could ignore it that bit of the fluff and make my own, unless GW creates some rule to go along with this...



I hope our 'friend' Ward ACTUALLY gets told to stop messing up our beloved 40K races.

BA was ok
GK, I can live with,
EDIT: SoB, getting to close for comfort...
'crons, RRRRRRAAAAAGGGGEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!


Please don't get bad fluff
please?

I was a bit on edge about it myself for a period of time, but now I actually feel the Necrons could use a bit more character. Make em' a bit more sinister, not just evil mindless killing automatons.

It's not like they can make Necrons blander. Any fluff is welcome, because even if it's hilariously bad it's still interesting. There's nothing worse than boring fluff. I have pretty decent hopes for them though.

I'd rather they didn't sacrifice ALL current fluff to make it more interesting. That original fluff was one of the factors that sold me on Necrons, they were different, different from Tomb Kings. Now the C'tan are just going to be some Necro/Warsphinx equiv.

peebzguy wrote:I was a bit on edge about it myself for a period of time, but now I actually feel the Necrons could use a bit more character. Make em' a bit more sinister, not just evil mindless killing automatons.

Only the current fluff didn't need to be thrown away to do that.

The Necron Lords and Immortals always had personalities, as did Flayed Ones and Pariahs.

Now, the Necron codex did not emphasize that enough, admittedly, so that getting more emphasis would be welcome.

But the current fluff didn't have to be completely retconned, as the rumors indicate.

The original release sequence I heard sounded like rubbish to me and I dismissed it, it went as follows:

September - Ogres
October - new, unmentioned fantasy naval game
November - Necrons

I laughed this off as I could not believe that GW would begin a new specialist game like that with no trailing or buzz, especially given that it wasn't so long ago that they scaled right back on non core games.

Anyhoo the new issue of WD has a cryptic advert about a wanted man and the captain of the Heldenhammer. Well blow me down this is a clear advert for a new fantasy naval game. I stand entirely corrected.

I am now 100% certain that Necrons will be in November. As always I may be wrong but the source I heard got the other three spot on, months ago, and it ties with what I am hearing elsewhere.

Hope it's correct but the usual health warnings apply!

yakface wrote:
There is also a new weapon type called Tesla weapons

I find this a bit ridiculous, considering how "Tesla" is essentially the same as Gauss; they are both units of Magnetic flux density. Tesla is SI and gauss is CgS.