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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/10 08:18:46
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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I don't think it's going to be near as bad as you are saying Ascalam.
I think the Necron Codex is going to be great. I'm not predicting something as grand as the Dark Eldar release, but I still think it will be solid, and will bring the Necrons up to where they need to be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/10 11:48:28
Subject: Re:Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Reanimation: - An updated variant of We'll Be Back. Models with this rule who were killed last turn roll a d6 at the end of each phase, regardless of what caused the wound (thunder hammer, etc...); standing back up on a 5+. Res Orbs makes this a 4+ roll if within 6".
Interesting... so you'd get 3 chances to roll WWB, or 6? At the end of each phase (movement, shooting, and assault), would be significantly better than the current WWB.
Eternal Life: - for ICs, this grants a Reanimation roll after the model loses its last wound. If successful, the IC stands back up with 1 wound and, if within 1"of enemy models is placed in assault with them.
Seems good, others are saying with the IC looses any wounds... the wording says differently. It seems to me that Eternal Life is an additional WBB that happens at the time of wound. This seems very fluffy...
Living Metal: - Crew Shaken results are ignored on a 2+, Crew Stunned results are ignored on a 4+. All other current codex benefits are removed.
Don't know what I think about this one. Seems likely to balance out the strength of the Monolith.
Gauss Weapons: - Armor penetration rolls of 6 auto-glance, to-wound rolls of 6 auto wound.
Makes sense to me... Gauss weapons are described as molecular sandpaper... makes sense to me that it would damage fleshies the same way it damages the vehicles.
Seems like a bunch of wish-listing with a twist of 'yeah, that's overpowered and should be changed'. I wouldn't be up in arms if these changes actually happen.
I second Sasori; I doubt that it'll be as bad as Ascalam (and others) fear. Ward's other codices are fairly balanced, and we know that others have been involved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/10 15:22:10
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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New necron 'dex. Hooray!!
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The meaning of victory is not merely to defeat your enemy but destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavors, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/10 16:43:34
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Fixture of Dakka
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ajax22 wrote:New necron 'dex. Hooray!!
No evidence yet.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 14:41:11
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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DarknessEternal wrote:ajax22 wrote:New necron 'dex. Hooray!!
No evidence yet.
Unless you count numerous reliable sources and GW removing relatively all the product.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 14:43:55
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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NecronLord3 wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:ajax22 wrote:New necron 'dex. Hooray!!
No evidence yet.
Unless you count numerous reliable sources and GW removing relatively all the product.
Neither of those things are technically evidence. A reliable source of rumours is still rumours, and GW removing the product could mean that they need to make room for the new dark and mysterious chapter of Space Marines that come from the dark planet of Mius'littles Ponius.
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Setekh the Eternal, Phaeron of the Kopakh Dynasty, Regent of Nephthys 7660pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 14:45:48
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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NecronLord3 wrote:
Unless you count numerous reliable sources and GW removing relatively all the product.
GW removing product isn't a great way to tell things are happening. Sisters went direct-only and lost their boxed sets at least two years ago, and that hasn't meant diddly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 15:13:28
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Lets finish this conversation in a month or two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 00:35:44
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Each "rumor update" is making me not want to play more and more. Granted, the price gouging isn't helping that either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 02:03:55
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Yeah, same here.
At this point it's like bending over at the doctor's office while he readies the glove.
You not sure you want to be there, You wish that he'd hurry up already, and you're not sure you want to know what the results are in case they are bad news.
I got burned on the Nid codex (yes i know some people like the revision- i HATED it, and while i tried to give it a fair chance it just didn't work for me) and i'm hoping that the Necrons don't get the same treatment.
If they do i'll keep on playing with my old codex for home games/friendlies and play my orks at tournament instead.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 02:47:54
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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If GW messes up my beloved machines and kills off my Star Gods and defeats the set mystery fluff, then I'll be reverting back to my roots with Orkses. The fluff is a third of the army, the other two are the rules and models, if they mess up on any of those three things, I'll never pass my WBB.
I can only hope it'll be as great as the Dark Eldar release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 02:51:15
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Kevin949 wrote:Each "rumor update" is making me not want to play more and more. Granted, the price gouging isn't helping that either.
+1 every time i hear necrons are being pushed back i wanna puke. then i hear about the changes possibly being made to them and wanna stab myself in the face with a hot fire poker. i think GW is going to ruin necrons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:07:39
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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lowmanjason wrote:Kevin949 wrote:Each "rumor update" is making me not want to play more and more. Granted, the price gouging isn't helping that either.
+1 every time i hear necrons are being pushed back i wanna puke. then i hear about the changes possibly being made to them and wanna stab myself in the face with a hot fire poker. i think GW is going to ruin necrons.
They pretty much did that already with 5th edition rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:28:11
Subject: Re:Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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I've already given up hope for my Gauss-boys. I was going to start Sisters of Battle, and I love their new rules, but without models they're no more than a thought exercise. Now I'm onto Chaos Marines, and we'll see where that goes, but with the amount of change that is predicted for the Necrons, they're a different race now. Some might feel differently or be more hopeful, but GW have a tendency to punch you in the face when life gives you lemons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 21:52:55
Subject: Re:Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Scarey Nerd wrote:but GW have a tendency to punch you in the face when life gives you lemons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6iTwVIiMM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 22:02:22
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Reliable Krootox
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Kilink wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-special-rules.html
I'm going to sigh now...
Reanimation: - An updated variant of We'll Be Back. Models with this rule who were killed last turn roll a d6 at the end of each phase, regardless of what caused the wound (thunder hammer, etc...); standing back up on a 5+. Res Orbs makes this a 4+ roll if within 6".
Joy, so now if someone takes a res orb their warriors have a 50/50 chance of just getting back up after they die. Sigh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 22:09:33
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Yes, like it used to be? I think people are forgetting that Sweeping Advance nerfed WBB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 22:53:40
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Those are horrible rumours.
Reanimations isn't so bad, but Living Metal is stupid. Why a vehicle with no crew is susceptible to Stunned and Shaken is beyond me.
But losing the rest of Living Metal is a big blow.
Gauss is same as now, which is shockin' bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 22:57:57
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Anvildude wrote:Yes, like it used to be? I think people are forgetting that Sweeping Advance nerfed WBB.
No Sweeping Advance existed when the 3rd edition codex was written. It was the ability to run and the change in vehicle damage rules that nerfed 'crons. We used to be able to whack all tanks with our weakest gun, once that went away, the survival of enemy units in transports and their ability to quickly engage our units turned the Necrons to dust. The BS FAQ ruling that states Necrons cannot WBB after sweeping advance severely hurt us but 9 times out of 10 that would hardly have been a game changer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 23:07:40
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Im getting my Necrons outta the cuboard!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/13 02:17:31
Subject: Re:Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Irked Necron Immortal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/13 12:00:32
Subject: Re:Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
In a hole in New Zealand with internet access
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lowmanjason wrote:
good stuff there
You can find some shirts with that on it at vgcats. love that site.
On topic, Maybe they shock of the impact scrambled the sensers and it spends the time recovering so it can fire/move?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/13 14:21:28
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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You're full of gak, because the Land Raider's Machine Spirit is immune to that crap. Considering the Machine Spirit COMES from the Necrons (C'tan Void Dragon to be exact), the Monolith should be able to always fire its weapons, at the very least. Asshat Ward at his finest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/13 15:41:42
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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It will that last rumor is total crap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/14 20:21:36
Subject: Re:Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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Ya Im looking forward to the new dex.
I mean its finally time for the seasonal dementia of Ward to wax strong again and make all of our units have furious charge on the the roll of a 6!
Then make all our vehicles fast!
Then give Dreadnoughts with rage!
Then give our entire army Jump Packs!
Then make a new army with all that and 2W terminators with different loadouts so you can practice bull**** wound allocation!
see it'll all be good, we cant actually get worse. However, we may have to sell our souls for it.
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Ya, I play Crons, what about it?
Also, they are just shiny space zombies with guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 02:48:14
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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If you're playing 40k, GW took your soul long ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 03:27:39
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I didn't sell my soul. I rented it, with option to buy
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 01:54:25
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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So we won't be seeing no more outnumbered bots?
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Why buy expensive 40k at retail price?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/469464.page#4727302
See the link above and get decent 40k armies for a decent price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 02:09:17
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Of course we will.
It would be nice to run all 120 of my warriors in a 2000 pt game with more than a single lord to keep them company.
It looks awesome though
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:01:29
Subject: Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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How awesome would it be to play a game where the only restriction of the list is that you have to use the full FOC? That would be a heck of a game to see.
Something in the area of 4800 points of necrons teleporting around the board... it would be great.
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