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Anpu-adom wrote:

Scarey Nerd wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:WD last page is a month before that (though, it may disappear completely... we'll find out in about a week.)

Wait, what? WD is going?

Whoa! Not trying to start a rumor that WD is disappearing, just that the last page might. With GW's "No More Rumors", and other changes to how their products are advertised recently suggest to me that the last page may be going away as well. To clarify, I have no inside information on this.

Thank the all-powerful Atheismo for that. In any case, wouldn't they keep the last page as their only method of communication with us?

I don't want to read through all 69 pages and pardon slight off-topic but am I the only one who noticed that decreasing price by 1/3 results in half not one third more units?

I have a friend who plays Necrons. I thoroughly enjoy murdering him. Thus, I don't like this codex :(

TydVirTaal wrote:I have a friend who plays Necrons. I thoroughly enjoy murdering him. Thus, I don't like this codex :(

He must not be playing right if you murder him. Even on a bad day for me it's still usually a very close game with my opponents.

Kevin949 wrote:

TydVirTaal wrote:I have a friend who plays Necrons. I thoroughly enjoy murdering him. Thus, I don't like this codex :(

He must not be playing right if you murder him. Even on a bad day for me it's still usually a very close game with my opponents.

Then you obviously haven't played against Necrons recently. I've played a cobbled together Space Marine army made on the fly with mostly tactical squads and wiped a standard Necron army with little to no trouble. An army full of slow Marines with no transports and just bolters doesn't do terribly well. Destroyers mitigate this, but they're hard to hide and everyone will just kill the Warriors to force a phase out. I've played a lot of Necron players, and I really hope there is a new codex for them soon because I get really bored stomping Necrons into the dirt. I'm not even a terribly competitive player, it's just no fun having a one sided battle.

Brother SRM wrote:

Kevin949 wrote:

TydVirTaal wrote:I have a friend who plays Necrons. I thoroughly enjoy murdering him. Thus, I don't like this codex :(

He must not be playing right if you murder him. Even on a bad day for me it's still usually a very close game with my opponents.

Then you obviously haven't played against Necrons recently. I've played a cobbled together Space Marine army made on the fly with mostly tactical squads and wiped a standard Necron army with little to no trouble. An army full of slow Marines with no transports and just bolters doesn't do terribly well. Destroyers mitigate this, but they're hard to hide and everyone will just kill the Warriors to force a phase out. I've played a lot of Necron players, and I really hope there is a new codex for them soon because I get really bored stomping Necrons into the dirt. I'm not even a terribly competitive player, it's just no fun having a one sided battle.

Dude, I PLAY necrons and I regularly beat my opponents which are comprised of marines of varied flavors, tau and nids that know what they're playing against so they can tailor their list against me and they still lose. Obviously I lose too (like just this past weekend, lost to my friends 4th edition nids) but I never get "murdered" and I have never phased out (one time when I first started playing and it was a 500 point game).

I stand by my previous comment of his opponent not knowing how to play necrons or not having enough of the right models. Also, I stand by my belief that the player (with appropriate tools at his disposal) has more to do with winning than the army they're playing as. Obviously there are some caveats to this, I.E. someone with only warriors and a lord is going to lose, proper tools would include access to at least 1 squad of every type in the codex (even if proxying).

Kevin949 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Kevin949 wrote:

TydVirTaal wrote:I have a friend who plays Necrons. I thoroughly enjoy murdering him. Thus, I don't like this codex :(

He must not be playing right if you murder him. Even on a bad day for me it's still usually a very close game with my opponents.

Then you obviously haven't played against Necrons recently. I've played a cobbled together Space Marine army made on the fly with mostly tactical squads and wiped a standard Necron army with little to no trouble. An army full of slow Marines with no transports and just bolters doesn't do terribly well. Destroyers mitigate this, but they're hard to hide and everyone will just kill the Warriors to force a phase out. I've played a lot of Necron players, and I really hope there is a new codex for them soon because I get really bored stomping Necrons into the dirt. I'm not even a terribly competitive player, it's just no fun having a one sided battle.

Dude, I PLAY necrons and I regularly beat my opponents which are comprised of marines of varied flavors, tau and nids that know what they're playing against so they can tailor their list against me and they still lose. Obviously I lose too (like just this past weekend, lost to my friends 4th edition nids) but I never get "murdered" and I have never phased out (one time when I first started playing and it was a 500 point game).

I stand by my previous comment of his opponent not knowing how to play necrons or not having enough of the right models. Also, I stand by my belief that the player (with appropriate tools at his disposal) has more to do with winning than the army they're playing as. Obviously there are some caveats to this, I.E. someone with only warriors and a lord is going to lose, proper tools would include access to at least 1 squad of every type in the codex (even if proxying).

I agree with Kevin 949, I also play Necrons and after a rough start with them, I've never been murdered since and I've gone up against Nids, Tau, IG, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Eldar, other Necrons, and Chaos Daemons (okay, so nids took a while to be able to figure out how to fight against but I eventually got to the point where I don't get murdered but I still haven't won a single battle against them).

I very rarely get murdered playing Necrons. Only by Dark Eldar, generally by 1 particular player. If i've ever lost any other game its by narrow margins (and I have lost games). He has pretty much tailored his list for me, but it's still a decent list. Just excels against me. I've beaten him 1, when he was testing out webway portals for the first time. And only because he kept failing reserve rolls.

Has there been any other update necron info recently?

mondo80 wrote:Has there been any other update necron info recently?

Nope... the Codex has disappeared from the GW webstore. Tomb Spyders, Flayed Ones, and Pariahs are no longer available for order.
The rest of the range have varying dates of availability.
A few weeks ago, there was a report of a Tomb Spyder re-sculpt that is significantly larger (almost Soul Grinder size).
Seems that the August WD doesn't have Necrons on the backpage (people are saying that its Ogre Kingdoms).

Which puts Necrons October/November... maybe.

Well with Ogre kingdoms being next I guess that frees up October.

from what I've heard, 'crons will be coming out in november.

The secret that nobody wants you to know: The reason Necron stuff's dissapearing from stores and shelves is that they're cutting the Necrons. Space zombie robots are going the way of the Space Dwarves.

I guess i'd just feild mine as Silver skulls, post diet plan, if that happened

They wouldn't delete the 'crons they are in the background of loads of codexs (Marines, Tau (I think...) and more...)

Without the Necrons the IOM are boned

One of the Necron gods (The Dragon) IS their Machine-God after all, though some will likely disagree, as Big E was named the Omnissiah bu the Ad Mech when he 'allied' with them by duress..

Given the grief people STILL give them over axing thr Sqats i doubt they'd do it again. It's easier to leave armies they don't like un-updated for decades instead

Anvildude wrote:The secret that nobody wants you to know: The reason Necron stuff's dissapearing from stores and shelves is that they're cutting the Necrons. Space zombie robots are going the way of the Space Dwarves.

If this is true (couldn't possibly be), then I will be the most saddest panda to ever surface in this world. The tears that I will shed will have the power to cure orphans of disease and transfer them to a big stormcloud that will unleash its torrents of sorrow all over England.

You guys know I'm actually not a legitimate source of rumours, right?

It's fascinating to see the reactions to even unconfirmed rumors, though. Forgive me for a little social tweaking.

These rumors are great! Can't wait to see them come out

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-special-rules.html

I'm going to sigh now...

Kilink wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-special-rules.html

I'm going to sigh now...

...sigh...

Kilink wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-special-rules.html

I'm going to sigh now...

I dunno. The rumors are probably completely off base and should be taken with a grain of salt. The codex is going to come out and everyone is going to go "wat?"

Not happy if they're true...

As usual, lots of awesome stuff in this codex.

Assume the usual:

If it's expensive and was good in the last codex it will get a heavy nerf and a price up.

If it was something that cost you a fortune to assemble, like wraiths, immortals or pariahs it will now be in plastic or cheaper, but not worth fielding.

If it's new and they want to sell it as being the new uber thing (pyrovore aside - nice model with stunningly cruddy rules) it will be substantially better than the previous good unit was before it got a nerfbat enema. (trygon replacing Carnifex for example).

The units with the really good rules (fluff is already a non-starter with the writer..) will cost the earth even by GW standards or not have a model released for another decade.


I may just stick to using my old codex, and play my orks at tournaments. I'm going to reserve my vitriol supply down to a trickle until i can read the book cover to covwer a few times, but if the rumors are right i'm probably going to be thoroughly disappointed.

Kilink wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-special-rules.html

I'm going to sigh now...

Hooray...

I'm not getting what "Eternal Life" is supposed to do.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Kilink wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-special-rules.html

I'm going to sigh now...

Hooray...

I'm not getting what "Eternal Life" is supposed to do.

My interpretation is that as soon as you lose the wound you get a chance to roll, and on a 5+ you get it back instantly.

none of it matters cause it will never be released, GW dont think we're important enough. they got better things to do.

lowmanjason wrote:none of it matters cause it will never be released, GW dont think we're important enough. they got better things to do.

Now that is naysaying if I've ever heard it.

After 10 years of waiting it's going to have to be a great codex, well balanced and decently fluffed, to get much approval.

Dark Eldar's re-release managed this, with awesome looking new models across the line and a complete redesign across the whole codex that made sense and involved a good deal of thought. The fluff was rewritten to keep as much of the original fluff as possible while changing the theme from junkie tarts in bondagewear to evil space fey (in armoured bondagewear ).

There were a couple of somewhat underpowered units in there, but as a whole the codex is very solid and well recieved (by folks i've asked about it anyhow ).

I have the codex and a few models, and nothing could have induced me to play them before the revisit.


I have a sneaking suspicion that the Necron revisit won't involve the same level of detail and committment.

It seems to me, from the rumors to run more like this:

Hmm.. open topped skimmers went over well for the DE, do some for Necrons too. Put lots of skulls on them.

Get Matt to write the rules. He'll get them dumbed down and nerfed (except for the new units) so the Marine players can stop having to loophole living metal and whining about WBB.

Oh and knock off a few points on the warriors, but make them weaker than marines. Can't have them beating our Boys in Blue after all. Maye if we can get the points low enough for the Necron players to actually field 6 maxed troops choices we'll sell more warriors... Up the box price on those, ok?