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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 20:11:02
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
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"Don't have much use for a poop droid." - Iorek "Elusive has a bloodhound like capacity for finding hugely ugly minis." - tortoise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 20:35:47
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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GOGS - Slightly better than the last bunch but still vaguely stupid looking. (Got it! All the Cogs so far look like they've been caught mid-stride in some sort of weird Aztec 'Safety Dance'. Hurray for dynamic miniatures?)
DOTCH YAGA - This will look great! In my Weird War II game (Secrets of the Third Reich).
Rackham continues to either disappoint and/or supply me with miniatures for use in other games.
At least until (IF?) DUST TACTICS stuff starts showing up (which will still be a slight 'win' for Rackham too, but, whatever...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 20:37:36
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Clousseau
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Actually, I like these COGs less.
The Dotch Yaga on the other hand...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 20:39:09
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Well, the DOTCH YAGA does look as if it would have trouble walking in a straight line...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 20:49:07
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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I like the newest cog pics.
The Witch's Daughter (ДОЧЬ Яга) however....not bad. The mortar looks a little too bulky even by red block standards.
The four legs make me pause a bit too. It is hard to make that have any sort of speed, much less walk at all with less than 6 legs. I am kinda scratching my head at that one.
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I am wondering when the cog release is. Still not much word on that, but I am glad to see the recent trend in cry havoc newsletters pouring in those pics
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 20:55:12
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Battleship Captain
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The Dotch Yaga is fine, but I'd be more impressed if we had something for scale next to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 21:00:42
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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Death By Monkeys wrote:The Dotch Yaga is fine, but I'd be more impressed if we had something for scale next to it.
if it is anything like the theirin or UNA type 3 vehicles, then it will be on a base larger than 100mm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 21:36:37
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wow, when the Cog preview sketches came out, I was all excited to jump into AT-43.
I don't know how Rackham managed it, but with every preview picture of an actual, my enthusiasm wanes further.
Sad, really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 21:42:03
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Dotch base is 13 cm.
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André Winter L'Art Noir - Game Design and Translation Studio |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 23:05:15
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration
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Those cogs look cool/funny to me, but I guess it is because of how much they seem to resemble a rockem sockem robot.
Dotch
If it never loses, then I will field one every game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 23:10:40
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Battleship Captain
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Duncan_Idaho wrote:Dotch base is 13 cm.
So, it's maybe the size of a Soulgrinder? Am I supposed to be impressed? Isn't a Land Raider longer than that? I mean, if this thing were going to be as big as a Baneblade, then I'd be impressed. But other than the fluff making it OMFGBBQROXXOR, I'm not seeing what makes it so special. It looks nice. Nothing mindblowing, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 23:21:19
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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As far as how cool type 3 vehicles are, I would actually rather field a squadron of type 2 AFV's over type 3 AFV's anyday of the week.
The squadron is far tougher and has more firepower output for nearly the same price.
Its like a necron army using 3 monoliths in 1500 points.
Yeah they are big scary things but if you ignore them and direct your attention towards mission objectives, they suddenly make their status as a point sink apparent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 00:01:29
Subject: Re:More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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It will come down to the rules for the Dotch Yaga to see whether or not I get one. I think I would almost HAVE to throw a thrid pair of legs on it, but then they wouldn't match the other's and then you might as well replace them too, and then you might as well just build it from scratch if you're gonna do that...
RUues wise, it would come down to those last two points of armour. I'm not sure they will make it as tough as it is purported to be. That thing is a huge investment of points for a single model, and I am not sure it's damage capacity is up to it. I mean, how many Sierps could I get for those points????
Anyway, I field Odin/Mannon's Regenerating Hetman every time I play (simply b/c it irritates the unreasonable crap out of this one guy who needs the unreasonable crap irritated out of him) and putting out both of these at once would be laughable points wise.
And yes, that was me doing a complete and utter dump on the AFV sculpts a while back. Mostly I was ranting about the UNA and the Therians, however I think I had choice words for Red Block as well. Red Block IS the best of a bad bunch though, in my opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 00:47:16
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Toreador wrote:Those cogs look cool/funny to me, but I guess it is because of how much they seem to resemble a rockem sockem robot.
Dotch
If it never loses, then I will field one every game!
Oh just great. I didn't mind them so much at first but now that's all I can see. They'll have to be painted red and blue now.
I think if the arms were put down it would look pretty good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 00:53:04
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Death By Monkeys wrote:Duncan_Idaho wrote:Dotch base is 13 cm.
So, it's maybe the size of a Soulgrinder? Am I supposed to be impressed? Isn't a Land Raider longer than that? I mean, if this thing were going to be as big as a Baneblade, then I'd be impressed. But other than the fluff making it OMFGBBQROXXOR, I'm not seeing what makes it so special. It looks nice. Nothing mindblowing, though.
10cm AOE mortar makes it pretty special.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 06:34:14
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Fireknife Shas'el
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The Cogs look to me to be some weird hybrid of a Tau Crisis suit and a Rock'em Sock'em robot. Having said that, I do like them better than the last few preview pics we've had. I do love the look of the shoulder-mounted weaponry (Not an AT-43 player, so no idea if that's a normal weapon or not)
As for the Dotch, I'd have to see it in the Plastic before I'm sure about it, but it strikes me as a nice basis for an Iron Warriors Defile conversion, if (unlike me) you've got those mad skillz
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 16:54:04
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Battleship Captain
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Platuan4th wrote:10cm AOE mortar makes it pretty special.
I'll admit that my skepticism of this comes from my lack of knowledge and understanding of AT-43, never having played it and so not understanding the scale of games. But a 10cm blast is smaller than a WH40K large blast marker. I'm assuming that this is rare in AT-43?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 19:02:20
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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10cm blast means 20 cm diameter, which even for 40K is quite a hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 19:18:33
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Battleship Captain
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Oh. Wow. 10cm radius. I was thinking 10cm diameter. Okay, now I am impressed.
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 21:05:12
Subject: More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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I don´t know. The dotch just seems sooooo under detailed. The left gun (not the mortar, the other one) looks like a pen with some plasticard...
I sort of like the idea of the cogs. I mean back mounted missile lauinchers, who wouldn´t want those? But as others have said, they look a bit "walk like an egyptian".
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Back on the path of the Imperial Citizen
Still rolling ones...
Krieg: More wins than Losses. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/24 22:13:07
Subject: Re:More Cogs and the Dotch Yaga!
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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grizgrin wrote:RUues wise, it would come down to those last two points of armour. I'm not sure they will make it as tough as it is purported to be. That thing is a huge investment of points for a single model, and I am not sure it's damage capacity is up to it. I mean, how many Sierps could I get for those points????
Anyway, I field Odin/Mannon's Regenerating Hetman every time I play (simply b/c it irritates the unreasonable crap out of this one guy who needs the unreasonable crap irritated out of him) and putting out both of these at once would be laughable points wise.
While the Mega supah nut cruncha Mgauss gun is nice on the Dotch Yaga, I have to agree.
It is a points sink, but if you can use the new Яed Blok platoon pattern in Operation frostbite that lets you take duplicates of heroes, you could field a few Odin and Manons on the table, and the Witch's Daughter is set to 'unreasonably irritate the unreasonable crap' out of your opponent by fixing two points of armor a turn on the beast. Expensive but would be a hoot against a person who is uptight.
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