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RoninXiC wrote:
Got all my stuff.
The torture is finally over.


That I laughed at this is telling me I really shouldn't buy any more of their stuff and I should focus on models that I can build without as much frustration.
   
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Mighty Kroxigor Ancient





California the Southern

Yeah, I had to reassess my desire for all the giant stuff and their multitude of parts when things first started shipping out.

Some of the infantry figures were bad enough. Death Dancers, anyone?

I still wish they'd done the Matron to go with them.

...is it wrong of me to curiously be wondering if we'll see a 3rd minis campaign in the near future?

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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Jolly Morale Officer






Dakka's very own Christmas village

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
...is it wrong of me to curiously be wondering if we'll see a 3rd minis campaign in the near future?
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

From one of the many newsletters they sent out recently:

2017 was another incredible adventure for us thanks to the great support of our fans around the world. Thanks also for your patience about TGG2 shipments, it's finally coming to an end...and thanks for your amazing feedback too!

Now you'd better get ready for 2018 because it's gonna be a hell of a fun ride again:
The TGG sci-fi game is finally coming with the TGG3 Kickstarter !!!
So, lots of new minis and stuff !!!
The delivery of the WarStages' Cathedrals
The whole TGG2 range while become fully available to the general public.
More games are in the works so you can do some crazy stuff with your TGG minis.
So stay tuned and keep on rocking.
We wish you a great 2018, it's going to be fun!


edit.

PLACE BETS!

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Still waiting for my pulpits...

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Fixture of Dakka





Japan

WOOT WOOT Finally got the final shipment from the Raging Heroes Thoughest girls in the Galaxy 2

Raging Heroes

Spoiler:


Avatar of Shaah

Spoiler:


And 3rd kickstarter? i would't know but shiny new mini's i may cave in

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Did that ship with instructions?

(I hope!)

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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler





America

 Alpharius wrote:
Did that ship with instructions?

(I hope!)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....There are NO instructions in France!!!

You have to wait a month for the video

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Enigmatic Exalted Daemon





Albany, NY

 rayphoton wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Did that ship with instructions?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....There are NO instructions in France!!!
I lol'd

But seriously: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0034/6452/files/AVATAR_OF_SHAAH_ASSEMBLY_GUIDE.pdf

As for Yscarloth, who the feth knows. Likewise for where mine is at - no tracking numbers (French or otherwise) means USPS can't find her from back in early December

- Salvage

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Mighty Kroxigor Ancient





California the Southern

Wow, instructions!

If I'd known they'd have come through on those I might have actually ended up getting one after all!

I really wish more companies would do digital instructions at least for some of these larger multipart kits out in the wild.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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Enigmatic Exalted Daemon





Albany, NY

*opens the Avatar*

I am so fethed.

*discovers directions, downloads and pages through*

Pretty much still fethed

I'll tackle her some day, but directions certainly help make sense of that pile of resin.
The only other TGG2 with directions so far is the war pulpit: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0034/6452/files/WAR_PULPIT_ASSEMBLY_GUIDE.pdf?11944693247561762413

And 'Assembly Charts' live here on their site: https://www.ragingheroes.com/pages/assembly-charts

- Salvage

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Maybe it's just me, but some of those kits have way too many sub-assemblies or parts per limb.

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Nah its just you Brook, the work flow told us that kits that are in more and smaller parts than Wyrd in a harder to work with material were the best idea, due to workflow. Oh, its interesting they are now talking of another mini kickstarter even though their wokflow has not workflowed the metal models yet.
Those assembly instructions are adorable.

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Mini-KS? For what exactly?

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Kansas

 BrookM wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but some of those kits have way too many sub-assemblies or parts per limb.


I'm with you- to date, I've built a total of two RH figures.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Dear TGG2 backers,

So it is probably one of the last TGG2 updates we are writing as we are now very close of wrapping up the TGG2 production and shipments.

Things are going according to plan: If you don't have the Altar of the Succubi or metal Heroines in your rewards, your shipment has most likely already been sent.

In fact, we just have about 70 shipments left to send from that category, but one of the parcel from the foundry has been put temporary on hold at customs. This happens from time to time. It's a standard procedure, but it generates a few additional days of delay. We will get this box early next week and finish these few remaining shipment. They all should be shipped out before the end of the week.

If you have the Altar of the Succubi or metal Heroines in your rewards selection, that's what the foundry is working on now.


rest of it is here https://www.ragingheroes.com/blogs/news/tgg2-update80

 
   
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Could it be? Who'd have thunk that trying to get a few pieces in metal would result in a year's delay?
   
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Lot of negativity here, so I thought I'd weigh in.

I acted as a dropship location for the first KS and pledged high on the second.

I've received all my RH minis from both Kickstarters and will happily be pledging on their upcoming third.

The resin can be a pain to work with but they've gone to lengths to improve that and the more recent stuff is much better (IE it doesn't require as much work to get the primer to stick to.)

Quality has been excellent, and where it was not for one of my dropship customers, RH immediately worked to remedy to situation.

Support have been entirely great, from my experience, and I've had to use them several times.
I received the wrong items on one shipment, contacted them and had my correct items sent really quickly and a pre-paid return issued for the others.
I moved from UK to New Zealand in the middle of KS2 fulfilment and they updated my details and sent my remaining shipments all the way to NZ without further charge.

Building can be difficult to decipher but I've muddled through it without serious issue. I've not had to do any of the larger models yet, but look forward to tackling them.

Anyway, that's just my experience with RH to counter all the complaints and grumbling I've seen here recently.

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And you forgot the 2 years late ... for both projects
   
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I'm sure plenty of people will chime in to say that there is nothing wrong with being two years.

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Some guys will have to wait 3 years if they opted for metal...
   
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Thats an interesting perspective. I guess I am just old fashioned in that I expect people who I have paid money to, to do what they were paid for.

For example I don't expect a company to massively delay sending out goods because the want to get them just right, only for them to be no where close to right and to spend more time faffing around and still failing to fix their errors.

I also don't expect a company using a funding platform to cease communication on that platform because they might be trolled, nor do I expect them to take comments on their own blog where negatives magically disappear.

Quality has been excellent?


That's a crack running through the model running from .5mm to 1.2mm deep, that's excellent to you is it? Funny cause RH thought that was appropriate as well... They also don't seem to mind putting vents and gates on details like faces or interiors of curved surfaces.

Support has been next to non existent from my experience I managed to get responses twice from them, once when pretending to be a new customer on their chat thing and once when I stayed up all night to phone them. They failed to respond to every other email/message/KS PM.

Still different strokes for different folks and all that...

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I've found that yes, it's been worth the wait.

They made no secret that metal would be done once all the resin was finished. It's taken a lot of time but it's now coming around.

As for dropping the KS platform for their updates - RH gave their reasons and I accepted them. Up to you if you don't. One platform for updates is as good as another, for me, so I honestly dont GaS if it's through KS or their website.

With regards to casting errors - I guess that I've just seen worse, having been there when the multinational GW launched their Finecast in all its hole-and-miscast glory, so a few air bubbles in a small company's excellent models did not worry me.

Yes, they took a long time, and yes their updates are sometimes few and far between, but the mini's are better than others offer and affordable. What more do you ask?

   
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Honesty, decency and respect. Which I am sure is too much and very wrong headed of me.


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PossumCraft wrote:
I've found that yes, it's been worth the wait.

They made no secret that metal would be done once all the resin was finished. It's taken a lot of time but it's now coming around.

As for dropping the KS platform for their updates - RH gave their reasons and I accepted them. Up to you if you don't. One platform for updates is as good as another, for me, so I honestly dont GaS if it's through KS or their website.

With regards to casting errors - I guess that I've just seen worse, having been there when the multinational GW launched their Finecast in all its hole-and-miscast glory, so a few air bubbles in a small company's excellent models did not worry me.

Yes, they took a long time, and yes their updates are sometimes few and far between, but the mini's are better than others offer and affordable. What more do you ask?


Thinking on this a little more,

Okay, you dont care that they changed platform for their updates? Other people do. Especially when its in the T&S they signed upto, they gave their resoning which amounted to they were being picked on ... when their project was delayed. They also moved to a platform that they get can control the comments and they refused to engage on the site that they were obligated to.

Casting errors, so because other people have done worse that makes it acceptable? That is a stunningly pathetic argument and that pic isnt a few air bubbles, its a crack running up the leg of that model.Like an open wound.

They are currently three years late, if you backed the first they are currently five years late fully delivering that. GW sells 10 wyches for 23 euros in HIPS, RH sells 5 of their equivalant for 20 euro. RH sells characters for the Void Elves from 14 to 20 euro. Gw 15.5 to 20. What is judged to be worth it is upto the individual, but three years ago you could go online and get GWs models discounted straight away and any faults GW will replace them, RH not so much.

Edited again to remove some hyperbole.

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Ah, the "they're a small company so they can get away with it" line of reasoning.

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If they'd stopped posting on KS entirely I would have been peeved, being forced to check elsewhere with no idea when an update would happen would have been annoying,

but they didn't, the do a KS update (so you get an email to your KS email) with a link to follow every time and one more click to get to the text and pictures is not a hardship

 
   
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No its not much of a hardship but personally I find it pretty irritating that they couldn't just put it up on KS like they are supposed to, the censoring of comments I find worse.

@Brook just noticed your question from upthread, taken from last update;
TGG3 and the TGG game soon to launch
What's coming? New awesome minis, great scenery and an ass-kicking game! That's what you can count on for the TGG3 Kickstarter. We are now pretty close to start showing you some stuff about TGG3 and the game. There will soon be a dedicated web address for this project and you'll get to learn all about it as we unveil the many different sides of this project. It's going to be very exciting!

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 kestral wrote:
Could it be? Who'd have thunk that trying to get a few pieces in metal would result in a year's delay?


Anyone who backed or heard of the first RH kickstarter must have had at least an inkling of what they were like. My point of view was, I'll pay some money and get some cool RPG / painting project figures at some random point in the next 3-4 years.

"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich." 
   
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RH has, historically, not taken ANY type of criticism well, at all.

So while none of this is surprising, it is still disappointing.


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 ingtaer wrote:


Casting errors, so because other people have done worse that makes it acceptable? That is a stunningly pathetic argument and that pic isnt a few air bubbles, its a crack running up the leg of that model.Like an open wound.

They are currently three years late, if you backed the first they are currently five years late fully delivering that. GW sells 10 wyches for 23 euros in HIPS, RH sells 5 of their equivalant for 20 euro. RH sells characters for the Void Elves from 14 to 20 euro. Gw 15.5 to 20. What is judged to be worth it is upto the individual, but three years ago you could go online and get GWs models discounted straight away and any faults GW will replace them, RH not so much.



As to point one - no, it's not an argument at all, it's a statement of my experience with both companies. Obviously in a perfect world all castings would be flawless, but in my experience RH's have been far better than GW's finecast when both were first launched. Both have made leaps in improving the situation.
My good experience does not diminish the problems you've encountered but nor does your bad experience diminish that mine has been good. It's important for people to see both sides of the argument without anybody becoming biased or slinging mud.


As to the second point - as I stated before, my experience has been that RH do replace miscast or damaged models, far more readily than GW were willing to for me when I received bad finecast.

And finally the question of price - on this I fully admit I have a skewed perspective as I'm living in NZ, where GW have for no defendable reason tripled their pricing. RH have not.
Even so, I would not even compare GW's bulk stamped wyches to RH's high quality and very individual designs. Personally I don't consider them in the same league.

Edit: oh, and as a footnote, when somebody else went off at RH for moving their updates off of KS I looked at the T&S and it does not anywhere obligate them to using KS for their updates. That may be out of date now but at the time KS simply advised that creators use their platform for ease of reaching pledgers.

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Well mate I just don't get why you felt it was necessary to weigh into the thread to " counter all the complaints and grumbling I've seen here recently" when the main issue is that next month they are two years late, with no actual timeframe for being done. So you have had nothing but good experiences? Well done! I note that you have studiously avoided the being late part though...

You say that everyone should see both sides of the argument without becoming biased or slinging mud, yet you manage to do that to GW in every post and this thread isn't even about GW.

Like in your second point, that does not match with the experiences of very nearly everyone else I have ever heard of in real life or online.

Your third point, am I in Narnia or something? I just checked my flag and it still shows NZ. So you are bitter at GW because we pay more for models? You do know there are ways around this yes? And you valuing them differently does not mean anything at all, you said they were more affordable, they are not. Would you care to move the goal posts a little further?


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