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Ok. so my army is sneaky, shooty, and close combaty, in exchange, I don't really use tanks. However, my freind gave, yes gave me a vindicator, and about 1000 points of termies, devastators, assault marines, vanilla marines, a chaplain, and half a landraider (literally).

so, How the hell should I use a vindicator?

1st off treat your friend to lunch.

It sounds like he just rounded out your army and gave you what you'd need for a force that instead of being sneaky, can do a full frontal assault.

My vindicator is good for two main things; #1, Driving up and landing that big @ss-whomping template on a nice expensive unit of something and making it go away and #2, Attracting ridiculous amount of firepower from players were on the receiving end of #1 thus leaving the rest of your army alone to do it's business for a turn.

How is this done? Drive around, fire cannon. Drive around, fire cannon. Drive around, fire cannon. The Vindicator is not subtle.

Move it up and fire. Not to be short but really thats what you do. Hit whatever is high cost and in the open.

i don't see how you can be a sneaky army anyway in 40k

Lord Bingo wrote:i don't see how you can be a sneaky army anyway in 40k

well the majority of my army infiltrates, those that don't are moving at least 12 inches a turn

Lord Bingo wrote:i don't see how you can be a sneaky army anyway in 40k

Guard armies, for one, can have every single unit Outflank the enemy. It won't work, but you can do it.

An effective sneaky army is another question...

MinMax wrote:

Lord Bingo wrote:i don't see how you can be a sneaky army anyway in 40k

Guard armies, for one, can have every single unit Outflank the enemy. It won't work, but you can do it.

An effective sneaky army is another question...

I've made it work for me in small games, especially against tau. They really don't like it when your close combat squads pop up 12 inches away from their fire warriors, and your heavy bolter squads are 24 inches from their kroot, while your devies with rokets line up for potshots against hammerheads. Then the assault marines dash into the fray and its pretty much over. However, its really hard to use effectively against Nids

It works against Tau because they're Tau, but beating them is like beating a quadruple amputee in a decathalon.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:It works against Tau because they're Tau, but beating them is like beating a quadruple amputee in a decathalon.

BYE

sorry about the first one... Im slowed

First thing you should do is buy or convert a second Vindicator for when the first one gets shot you can still lob S10 AP2 templates across their lines .

Vindicators don't take much intelligent tactical thought to use.

Step 1 - MOVE FORWARD!

Step 2 - FIRE!!!!

Step 3 - ??????????

Step 4 - PROFIT!!!

in 40k i just prefer a slegehammer blow

Well then take three!

Ok... well, my army can only use one tank anyways, so its either one vindi, or no vindi. My no vindi list is in the Army list forum so.. yeah

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/216968.page

It's also possible to use a vindicator in a sneaky way. If you can find a piece of terrain that completely hides it, just park it back there. If any good target comes within 30", drive out and pounce. If not, then you've created a 30" radius no-go zone for your opponent.

Hiding is tougher in 5th, but is a better strat if you have no other tanks. If the vindicator is your only tank, it will be less successful at just driving out and shooting because all the enemy high-str firepower can be dedicated to it. In general, you need 3+ vehicles to have any hope of some of them living long enough to do something.

even if you do hide it it won't stop most people shooting it or sending troops with melta bombs

I can take care of troops with melta bombs, and probably anti tank tanks as well. massed anti tank guns would be a problem though

Vindi's are awesome, ect. In my LRC lists, they make up a major fraction of my force. My list wouldn't be complete without them. Give them PotMS, to start, Dozer Blades(Maybe), and smoke launchers. First turn, move up 12", stay out of line of site of bigger AT problems(If possible), pop smoke. 3rd turn, move up 12", launch that Pie Plate.

Gazzdag wrote:Vindicators don't take much intelligent tactical thought to use.

Step 1 - MOVE FORWARD!

Step 2 - FIRE!!!!

Step 3 - ??????????

Step 4 - PROFIT!!!

DOING IT WRONG!!!!!! Chan speak is so hard, is it not? Generally you want at least 6 steps(3+ actual steps, 4 is repeat step 4(Obviously), and 5-6 are the ????????/Profit ones). Silly NewFag. (Also, don't get on me for this, all channers are fags(Depends which kind), I'm a /tg/ cigarette(Or a fa/tg/amer, if you want to go really far into it. A /k/-cigarette or /k/ommando as well.)) A better version, and truer:

Step 1. Buy it PotMS

Step 2. Move Forward, No matter what.

Step 3. Fire, no matter what

Step 4. Repeat Step 4.

Step 5. ???????

Step 6. PROFIT!!!!

GMMStudios wrote:Well then take three!

It works much better then you think. Don't know how well it would do in an infiltrating force, but it is worth trying. As someone else said, treat that friend to lunch.

Chan speak is so hard, is it not? Generally you want at least 6 steps(3+ actual steps, 4 is repeat step 4(Obviously), and 5-6 are the ????????/Profit ones). Silly NewFag. (Also, don't get on me for this, all channers are fags(Depends which kind), I'm a /tg/ cigarette(Or a fa/tg/amer, if you want to go really far into it. A /k/-cigarette or /k/ommando as well.)) A better version, and truer:

Excuse me?
This might be better moved to the 40K Riddles section of the forum lol

Matt-ShadowLord wrote:

Chan speak is so hard, is it not? Generally you want at least 6 steps(3+ actual steps, 4 is repeat step 4(Obviously), and 5-6 are the ????????/Profit ones). Silly NewFag. (Also, don't get on me for this, all channers are fags(Depends which kind), I'm a /tg/ cigarette(Or a fa/tg/amer, if you want to go really far into it. A /k/-cigarette or /k/ommando as well.)) A better version, and truer:

Excuse me?
This might be better moved to the 40K Riddles section of the forum lol

Its not a riddle, it's simply not known by you. It's all refering to 4chan. Its a major thing around the internet, contributing to a lot of modern internet culture. You know if it's work, if not it itself. Google it, if you must. Though, once you dive in, there is no escape.

I stopped reading after Lord Bingo, but for anyone who's ever played an RTS with fog of war or shroud, or has ever had the priviledge of knowing a ref with the time and dedication to run double blind, you know exactly what he's saying. The feeling of a game with no sattelite surveillance scans or invulnerable observation balloons or other devices of omniscient command is just so much...preferable IMHO - to that of a plain old, face up, two players two armies "war" game like 40k, period.

Yuz takes da Vindi and da 'alf a land raider and makes yer a battle-wagon, den loadz it up wif the hardest nobz in da scrap an' drive da lot down the uvver dude'z throat, yellin' da whole time. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you made a funny

Tacobake wrote:First thing you should do is buy or convert a second Vindicator for when the first one gets shot you can still lob S10 AP2 templates across their lines .

Seconded.

1 Vindicator isn't such a threat. *2* Vindicators means people need to pay attention.

1 Vindicator isn't such a threat. *2* Vindicators means people need to pay attention.

and 3 means they cant hide
great against ork and nid armies