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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 04:49:11
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Discuss.
I think it will improve the chances of a Lost and Damned Codex or even Codex Starchild.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 04:54:28
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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It could mean more money for miniatures if the sentiment is good enough to cause the American people to reinvest and spend and turn the economy around.
On the other hand it could mean less money for miniatures if I get new taxes to pay for universal medical care and what not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 04:57:37
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's gonna be one heck of a Communist Party! Woooooo!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 04:59:32
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It means that military personnel and their spouses won't be wargamers anymore if his "promise" of eliminating military housing allowances is pushed through.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 05:00:07
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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[DCM]
Sentient OverBear
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Let's keep this light, folks. No bashing anyone, either side.
That said, I'm really hoping Obama creates some new Federal gaming holidays. I'm having a devil of a time getting it all in now.
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DQ:70S++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k94+ID+++A++/sWD178R+++T(I)DM+++
Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1 - BBAP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 05:53:12
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Madrak Ironhide
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Iorek wrote:Let's keep this light, folks. No bashing anyone, either side.
That said, I'm really hoping Obama creates some new Federal gaming holidays. I'm having a devil of a time getting it all in now.
Done!
http://www.ilovelibraries.org/gaming/
Except not all libraries do it.
And you don't get to skip work.
And it seems to be mostly for kids.
But still!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 05:57:14
Subject: Re:What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Aww, that's video games! What about the toy soldiers? I thinking of getting into Aliens and Spacemen. It looks like something that would be fun, and easy to not take too seriously.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 05:59:14
Subject: Re:What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Aliens and Spacemen looks fun, no more of that "In the grim darkness of the fare future there is only war" nonsense for me. Perhaps with a reduced military budget, the government can actually do soemthing to improve this country, instead of make everyone else want to tear it down.
Ooops, I thought that first post didn't go through. Stupid me.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 06:07:47
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Codex: Wu Tang Clan?
Actually I don't have any racial slurs for Obama. He can be any colour, as long as his neck isn't red (being shot in the throat by Johnny Redtie is an exception).
I'm also aware that I wasn't asked to make a racial slur, nor do I believe that I did...
But if someone tells me I can't...
What's that chant again?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 06:45:28
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
Sin City...fun place to visit...sucks to live here!
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What effect? I didn't know Obama played 40K or WHF.
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"Out of every 100 men, 10 shouldn't even be there, 80 are targets, 9 are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the 1, 1 is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." - Hericletus
"Fear My Power...I am a unique Snowflake" thanks Ahtman!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 06:49:34
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Yeah, but it's the first time in a while you've had a president with KIDS. Bush's little tramps were never children. They were born with mixer drinks and long curly straws in their chubby little hands.
Obama's kids are getting a puppy, the nemesis of miniatures everywhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 07:43:54
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
Sin City...fun place to visit...sucks to live here!
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The Sultan of Burnei has a kid that was actually featured in a WD way back when. The main guys at GW actually went to his palace and gave him all the minis (for probably every army) and taught him how to play. When Dad's worth BILLIONS I guess you can afford it.
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"Out of every 100 men, 10 shouldn't even be there, 80 are targets, 9 are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the 1, 1 is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." - Hericletus
"Fear My Power...I am a unique Snowflake" thanks Ahtman!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 12:29:56
Subject: Re:What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Ten years ago, if I'd asked you what was more likely; a black President or a new Codex: Squats, what answer would you have given?
I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 16:30:09
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
Seattle, WA
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Your gaming habits will be regulated under Obama and Democratically led Congress. They will pass legislations to restrict any violent games, video or otherwise, from usage and production.
Under this administration the government will tell you what you can do and how you should think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 16:44:54
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Widowmaker
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Discuss.
I think it will improve the chances of a Lost and Damned Codex or even Codex Starchild.
Why would anyone want a codex based on the lead singer from KISS? If anything Space Ace is the way to go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 16:48:25
Subject: Re:What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Wrack Sufferer
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sebster wrote:Ten years ago, if I'd asked you what was more likely; a black President or a new Codex: Squats, what answer would you have given?
I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
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Once upon a time, I told myself it's better to be smart than lucky. Every day, the world proves me wrong a little more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 17:13:00
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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Arctik_Firangi wrote:Obama's kids are getting a puppy,
I can see it now. Milliions in therapy for the little girls because the new pup got out of the house and set off alarms and the secret service comes out with guns blazing.
inquisitor_bob wrote:Under this administration the government will tell you what you can do and how you should think.
Sadly, I can believe this will happen now more than ever. Of course the Media has been trying to do that for years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 17:20:29
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Archaeo wrote:inquisitor_bob wrote:Under this administration the government will tell you what you can do and how you should think.
Sadly, I can believe this will happen now more than ever. Of course the Media has been trying to do that for years.
Anything you have ever read or seen has tried to do that. Everything wants to tell you about or reinforce certain ideologies, even things that tell you not to have an ideology.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 17:33:48
Subject: Re:What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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not much seeing as GW is based in the uk
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 17:34:43
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Sslimey Sslyth
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Platuan4th wrote:It means that military personnel and their spouses won't be wargamers anymore if his "promise" of eliminating military housing allowances is pushed through.
This might actually be quite true if this goes through. That, or the military will have to drastically increase on base housing, as military personnel will no longer be able to afford their housing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 18:03:10
Subject: Re:What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
Seattle, WA
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SonsOfLoki wrote:not much seeing as GW is based in the uk
Really?
The US restricts plenty of foreign goods such as beef when UK had Mad Cow Disease, chicken when the Avian Flu was rampant, and various other items.
You do realize that Congress can pass any legislations they want? You should look to Immigration law to see the drastic results of some of Congress' legislation. Even Habeas Corpus rights have been removed for immigrants if they commit a crime in the US. Under these new legislations the Dept of Homeland Security can hold an immigrant who was convicted of a crime in prison forever. It's worse than going to an actual jail. At least in a regular jail you know how long your sentence is and when you can get out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 18:06:06
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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And as for Guantanamo Bay and the Geneva Convention....
Prisoners of War can be held without charge, for the duration of the conflict, but have certain rights.
Civilian Prisoners cannot be held without charge indefinitely, regardless of what they are suspected of. They also have certain rights.
Camp X-Ray however, holds neither of the above. Indeed, they are 'Illegal Combatants' a term not covered by the Geneva Convention or International Law, ergo, the US has been able to do what they want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 18:14:31
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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inquisitor_bob wrote:Under this administration the government will tell you what you can do and how you should think.
Because the current adminstration has been such a champion of privacy, free thinking and basic rights? The Rove-led propaganda that you're either for the Iraq war in every way and exactly as it's been conducted, or you're a terrorist-loving, U.S.-hating traitor got just a teeeeensy bit annoying.
I don't like being told how I should think either. But Bush and his people did plenty of that. It was hardly proper conservatism, if you ask me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 18:18:50
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
Seattle, WA
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:And as for Guantanamo Bay and the Geneva Convention....
Prisoners of War can be held without charge, for the duration of the conflict, but have certain rights.
Civilian Prisoners cannot be held without charge indefinitely, regardless of what they are suspected of. They also have certain rights.
Camp X-Ray however, holds neither of the above. Indeed, they are 'Illegal Combatants' a term not covered by the Geneva Convention or International Law, ergo, the US has been able to do what they want.
I'm terribly sorry, I failed to clarify that it only applies to illegal immigrants who are already convicted and taken by the Department of Homeland Security for deportation. Detention by DHS can be indefinite.
The issue on POW held for criminal charges are different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 18:31:34
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Might mean a lot if the market keeps tanking. The market's voting today.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 18:51:15
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Saldiven wrote:Platuan4th wrote:It means that military personnel and their spouses won't be wargamers anymore if his "promise" of eliminating military housing allowances is pushed through. This might actually be quite true if this goes through. That, or the military will have to drastically increase on base housing, as military personnel will no longer be able to afford their housing. Base housing is now owned by a private realty company, not the military, at least in the Air Force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 19:07:01
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I will be happy if Obama makes the US dollar worth more than pounds, and high enough that I can get a FW Reaver titan for $5.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 19:16:23
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Not terribly likely. Britains economy is one of export and import, and thanks to the former Empire, a heck of a lot of International Goods still travel through British Territories. Weird huh?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 19:20:01
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
Sin City...fun place to visit...sucks to live here!
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Saldiven wrote:Platuan4th wrote:It means that military personnel and their spouses won't be wargamers anymore if his "promise" of eliminating military housing allowances is pushed through.
This might actually be quite true if this goes through. That, or the military will have to drastically increase on base housing, as military personnel will no longer be able to afford their housing.
The problem with increasing on base housing is you still pay "rent" to the privatized company that owns base housing. Most bases are moving to private companies providing housing to the military (with the promise of building newer better housing) on base in a kind of master planned community type setting.
We pay rent to them with our BAH which is given in an allotment with our paycheck every month. With no BAH I couldn't pay for my lovely 1400 sq ft, 54-year-old house and still make ends meet and I'm an officer. My enlisted guys/gals would have a heck of a time making ends meet even receiving WIC/Food Stamps.
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"Out of every 100 men, 10 shouldn't even be there, 80 are targets, 9 are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the 1, 1 is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." - Hericletus
"Fear My Power...I am a unique Snowflake" thanks Ahtman!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 21:02:55
Subject: What does an Obama victory mean for GW and wargaming in general?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Is that a problem with private military housing or government military housing or the low pay that the forces get? (It's the same in Britain.)
Funny how things change. It's only about 150 years ago that governments decided it would be a good idea to provide proper barracks for their armed forces.
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