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A very dull, boring, soulless, lackluster, busy, static figure.
just as bad as the dreadful canoness.

A little busy, but not bad.
However, this thread neatly proves that releasing something after fanbase spent close to two decades building a perfect vision of it in their heads will always disappoint.
If HL3 released today, fans would tear it to shreds for not being the Messiah of gaming too.

Cronch wrote:
A little busy, but not bad.
However, this thread neatly proves that releasing something after fanbase spent close to two decades building a perfect vision of it in their heads will always disappear.
If HL3 released today, fans would tear it to shreds for not being the Messiah of gaming too.

Nah, it just cements that those whining make the most noise, as ever.

The range is probably going to be incredibly well received, with sellouts and stock shortages on release. Something that the whingery here won't predict.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

Cronch wrote:
A little busy, but not bad.
However, this thread neatly proves that releasing something after fanbase spent close to two decades building a perfect vision of it in their heads will always disappear.
If HL3 released today, fans would tear it to shreds for not being the Messiah of gaming too.

Nah, it just cements that those whining make the most noise, as ever.

The range is probably going to be incredibly well received, with sellouts and stock shortages on release. Something that the whingery here won't predict.

yeah but GW could literally sell dog poop in a plastic bag for £100 each and it would sell out...
so its not saying much about the fanbase really...

yeah but GW could literally sell dog poop in a plastic bag for £100 each and it would sell out...

That's a very mean way to call imperial models.

Cronch wrote:
A little busy, but not bad.
However, this thread neatly proves that releasing something after fanbase spent close to two decades building a perfect vision of it in their heads will always disappear.

A fair point if everything had been dismissed as terrible, but the basic battle sisters were relatively well received.

"A little busy" is a fair criticism of a ~30pt minor non-combat model that is based like a primarch.

If I ever get my hands on the hospitaller, I'll write "Press F" inside the book she holds. Definitely.

"a little busy" is a general criticism one can give to basically all GW models. Especially those sold in the last 10 years.

Heck I remember making that same comment about the plastic Lord of Change here on this board. The general reception I got from the critique is "Duh! It's GW! Of course it's needlessly busy"

I don't get whining about base. Primaris apothecary also has scenic base. He is not a single cent more expensive than other primaris characters. Primaris DA lieutenant comes with a lot of scenic tactical rocks, he is among the cheapest primaris characters. Literally every single Underworlds mini has a scenic base, and this is the cheapest GW range in pretty much decades...

Number of sprues would be a lot better price predictor and I still can't see the Hospitalier to take more than one.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Or a plastic deffkopta from black reach to actually be released.

You know Vedros had been a thing for years now, yes?

 insaniak wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Anybody considered that she could actually be a special character which is why she has a scenic base?

Why would being a special character make a difference? The base is still too big.

Wouldn't the larger base also potentially make it more effective in game? The medic ability is probably 'within 6" of this model' or some such, so the large base gives her a little more reach. Plus, the scenic base is gorgeous

Seems I can finally get on here and the "game" work filter is off. Yeah!!!

I think the hospitaller looks great. Love the wounded sister on the base.

I couldn't look back but does any one know the release date for the sisters? Since only renders maybe that means late Q4 2019?

 Prometheum5 wrote:
Wouldn't the larger base also potentially make it more effective in game? The medic ability is probably 'within 6" of this model' or some such, so the large base gives her a little more reach.

At the end of the movement phase, on a roll of 4+, the hospitaller may heal d3 wounds or return one dead model to a unit within 3".

In practical terms the larger base just makes her easier to shoot at. But perhaps her rules have changed in the codex.

 Popsghostly wrote:
Seems I can finally get on here and the "game" work filter is off. Yeah!!!

I think the hospitaller looks great. Love the wounded sister on the base.

I couldn't look back but does any one know the release date for the sisters? Since only renders maybe that means late Q4 2019?

We don't have a release date yet.

The last time GW said anything on the matter it was still going to be 2019. That was a couple of months ago.

Not Online!!! wrote:

phillv85 wrote:
Part of me thinks we might see a battle box containing some mono-pose sisters before we get the full kits, much like the Primaris Vanguard units got with Shadowspear. The only thing I'm not sure on is if they'll have units from another army in place to pit against the sisters for it to make it happen.

THere was that one insistent rumour when traitor guardsmen showed up.

altough i believe we will see a full propper cultist box before that happens. Or a plastic deffkopta from black reach to actually be released.

Now a SoB vs traitor guard would interest me. It would probably leave me skint as well.

Oh snap, I just figured out how to make good use of the Hospitaller.

1. Buy 5+ copies of her. as many as you can afford.
2. Convert all but one of the copies into 'regular' Hospitallers. Put them on standard bases, use them as a normal character model.
3. Sell any excess copies that you've put on normal bases. Buyers will thank you for this kindness.
4. Find the biggest base you possibly can.
5. Assemble an awesome "OMG everybody's dead QQ" diorama Hospitaller, using one copy of the Hosp model and every single copy of the dying Battle Sister you've accumulated.
6. Show off your insane creation to friends.
7. Field the monster Hospitaller in a game, so her aura fills the entire table and whereever she goes half a dozen dying sisters follow her.
8. For bonus points, add a Grey Knight wearing a Battle Sister's head as a hat to the scene, so it resembles Gandalf vs. The Balrog

On a more serious note, the fallen Sisters would make nice objective markers. Or turn markers. Or fallen Saint markers. Etc...

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
"a little busy" is a general criticism one can give to basically all GW models. Especially those sold in the last 10 years.

Except Primaris Marines. Then it's 'too plain'.

ValentineGames wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:

Cronch wrote:
A little busy, but not bad.
However, this thread neatly proves that releasing something after fanbase spent close to two decades building a perfect vision of it in their heads will always disappear.
If HL3 released today, fans would tear it to shreds for not being the Messiah of gaming too.

Nah, it just cements that those whining make the most noise, as ever.

The range is probably going to be incredibly well received, with sellouts and stock shortages on release. Something that the whingery here won't predict.

yeah but GW could literally sell dog poop in a plastic bag for £100 each and it would sell out...
so its not saying much about the fanbase really...

Very few releases that aren't special editions or rule books ever sell out. I don't think any of the primaris stuff has sold out at all except maybe dark imperium's first run.

You're full of it and ending multiple sentences in a row with ellipsis is giving yourself away a bit.

 Casbyness wrote:
Oh snap, I just figured out how to make good use of the Hospitaller.

1. Buy 5+ copies of her. as many as you can afford.
2. Convert all but one of the copies into 'regular' Hospitallers. Put them on standard bases, use them as a normal character model.
3. Sell any excess copies that you've put on normal bases. Buyers will thank you for this kindness.
4. Find the biggest base you possibly can.
5. Assemble an awesome "OMG everybody's dead QQ" diorama Hospitaller, using one copy of the Hosp model and every single copy of the dying Battle Sister you've accumulated.
6. Show off your insane creation to friends.
7. Field the monster Hospitaller in a game, so her aura fills the entire table and whereever she goes half a dozen dying sisters follow her.
8. For bonus points, add a Grey Knight wearing a Battle Sister's head as a hat to the scene, so it resembles Gandalf vs. The Balrog

That's awesome!!!

Achieved for the low low price of $300

ERJAK wrote:

ValentineGames wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:

Cronch wrote:
A little busy, but not bad.
However, this thread neatly proves that releasing something after fanbase spent close to two decades building a perfect vision of it in their heads will always disappear.
If HL3 released today, fans would tear it to shreds for not being the Messiah of gaming too.

Nah, it just cements that those whining make the most noise, as ever.

The range is probably going to be incredibly well received, with sellouts and stock shortages on release. Something that the whingery here won't predict.

yeah but GW could literally sell dog poop in a plastic bag for £100 each and it would sell out...
so its not saying much about the fanbase really...

Very few releases that aren't special editions or rule books ever sell out. I don't think any of the primaris stuff has sold out at all except maybe dark imperium's first run.

You're full of it and ending multiple sentences in a row with ellipsis is giving yourself away a bit.

Saying a bag of poo would sell out doesn't mean I'm suggesting everything sells out.
Stop being a prat.

Racerguy180 wrote:
no one said they cant complain if they don't like something. complain all you want, but when someone suggests something one can do about it, dont continue to complain about how it cant be fixed.

I just pointed out that if I dont like a part of an easily modified anything(mini, car, firearm) there exists the means to rectify it. Some people dont know they can modify stuff.

Let me know when I said it was something 'unfixable'.

And while I'm sure you meant well, Saying it can be fixed just feels like you're one of the people who tries to shut down conversations.

 Mmmpi wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
no one said they cant complain if they don't like something. complain all you want, but when someone suggests something one can do about it, dont continue to complain about how it cant be fixed.

I just pointed out that if I dont like a part of an easily modified anything(mini, car, firearm) there exists the means to rectify it. Some people dont know they can modify stuff.

Let me know when I said it was something 'unfixable'.

And while I'm sure you meant well, Saying it can be fixed just feels like you're one of the people who tries to shut down conversations.

I just want people to present actual solutions rather than just endlessly bagging on something. Would hope others feel the same.

There's a vast difference between stating that one doesn't like something, and endlessly bagging on it.

 John Prins wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
"a little busy" is a general criticism one can give to basically all GW models. Especially those sold in the last 10 years.

Except Primaris Marines. Then it's 'too plain'.

If there's anything that has enlightened me to just how people the 40k community likes to complain it's been Primaris.

YeOldSaltPotato wrote:

 John Prins wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
"a little busy" is a general criticism one can give to basically all GW models. Especially those sold in the last 10 years.

Except Primaris Marines. Then it's 'too plain'.

If there's anything that has enlightened me to just how people the 40k community likes to complain it's been Primaris.

The thing is, the 40k community is diverse and gets more so with time. Each time GW changes design direction, they attract new players to which the new direction speaks and disgruntle old players that liked things the way they were, not because of nostalgia or stubbornness but because that was the way they were introduced to the game, background or miniatures in their time.

The longer this goes on, the more groups with different ideas do you get, all vying for the same resources when the time comes for their faction to get updated. GW can't, and may even be unwilling to, cater to all of these at once and usually ends following their own, current design paradigm with no attempt to adhere to established designs to get those groups on board that are not catered to with the current thing.

There is very little point to criticizing the 40k community as if it was supposed to follow a single point of view but is too contrarian to do so. It's a conglomeration of individuals that got hooked on very different conditions, and we'd have a lot fewer dozen-page shouting matches about whether the old thing or the new thing is better if it was treated as such.

YeOldSaltPotato wrote:

If there's anything that has enlightened me to just how people the 40k community likes to complain it's been Primaris.

Yup, there's nothing that encourages people to dismiss other's opinions as just complaining for the sake of it like seeing people complain about something that we like...


You can disagree with other people's reasons for disliking a model, but dismissing it as complaining just because they 'like to complain' does the entire community a disservice. Different people like different things, for different reasons.

I think the Hospitaller is a beautiful model, although like most I would put it on a smaller base and remove the base blng.

I was really hoping we would see a new unit (or at least a character) by now.....

why give us the new stuff when there are pre-existing models to be updated. Do you show your cards when playing poker, no you wait for the call.

Not to complain, it's actually not a bad mini, but... in previous canon, Hospitalars didn't get power armor at all, they got carapace armor, IIRC.