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Latest pricing rumours up on Natfka:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2018/08/pricing-of-adeptus-mechanicus-australia.html#more


Just heard from a FLGS that the Adeptus Titanicus costs will be around $500 AUD which roughly checks out with the following sort of formula:

Knights are $185 AUD, so we'll go from there.

2x Warlords (185) $370
2x Knight Lots (say 60) $120
Rulebook + Bits $100
Ruins (60?) $60
=650 - (rumoured cost of 'free' warlord)185= $465 So getting pretty close to it there.

Also for the Poms, given GW marks up Australian pricing about 1.5 what they charge their UK customers it's around 190 pound for those playing at home in the mother country.


Pinch of salt of course, but seems plausible to me.
   
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I'm certainly hoping they don't pile on Knight variants to AT - let the variants stay a 40K thing.

I would be more interested in seeing Reaver and Warhound sized titans for this game, and expansions out into the other races.

Eldar Wraithknights, Phantoms and the like. I'd also be keen to see an Avatar of Khaine that's up to Imperator size. Honestly, it and a Bloodthirster version ought to be the biggest things that can be put on the battlefield. Something that makes every other titan on the field turn and go, "Oh, crap - that thing needs to go first, or we'll all dead!"

AdMech ought to have some 3-legged titans (nod to War of the Worlds), in addition to the old Imperial Titan line.

Necrons should have "full-sized" C'Tan striding the battlefield. Maybe some super-monoliths, such as the Obelisk.

Orks and their mork/gorkanauts, stompas and gargants.

I think they should keep the theme of Tau avoiding actual Titans, with them not having mechs much larger than Knights, but perhaps also utilizing skimmers - such as the orca, manta and other ships. Pervert expectations and have them use small, fast and powerful tech to fight the bigger ones. (And I say this as a fan of Tau).

Tyranids need some love - something to replace the repulsive titan they have. They need Kaiju!

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 jessagain wrote:

Just heard from a FLGS that the Adeptus Titanicus costs will be around $500 AUD which roughly checks out with the following sort of formula:
Knights are $185 AUD, so we'll go from there.
2x Warlords (185) $370

Pinch of salt of course, but seems plausible to me.


That'd make the 3 sprues titan the same price as the 4 sprues knight. Good inflation estimation.
   
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So about $300 US. That puts it solidly into the not going to bother category for most of the people I've talked with locally.
   
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 jessagain wrote:
Latest pricing rumours up on Natfka:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2018/08/pricing-of-adeptus-mechanicus-australia.html#more


Just heard from a FLGS that the Adeptus Titanicus costs will be around $500 AUD which roughly checks out with the following sort of formula:

Knights are $185 AUD, so we'll go from there.

2x Warlords (185) $370
2x Knight Lots (say 60) $120
Rulebook + Bits $100
Ruins (60?) $60
=650 - (rumoured cost of 'free' warlord)185= $465 So getting pretty close to it there.

Also for the Poms, given GW marks up Australian pricing about 1.5 what they charge their UK customers it's around 190 pound for those playing at home in the mother country.


Pinch of salt of course, but seems plausible to me.


190 Quid? Hmph. I honestly cant remember anything from GW even approaching that price lately, in current prices. What makes this so special? Where's the considerable discount we (not me, you lot) got on Dark Imperium / Prospero Burning etc?

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Justyn wrote:
So about $300 US. That puts it solidly into the not going to bother category for most of the people I've talked with locally.


in fairness there's also IIRC the "Austrialia tax" so it could be a bit cheaper US side

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That is my comparison of US Prices to AU Prices on the GW site on recent models. Older models have different exchange rates. Because GW was screwing AU and US at different rates then than they do now.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Stormonu wrote:


AdMech ought to have some 3-legged titans (nod to War of the Worlds), in addition to the old Imperial Titan line.


Errr, the Collegia Titanica is already affiliated to the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the very last thing the AM need is Flanderising based on the "hurr hurr they're Martians geddit" thing.

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 Yodhrin wrote:
 Stormonu wrote:


AdMech ought to have some 3-legged titans (nod to War of the Worlds), in addition to the old Imperial Titan line.


Errr, the Collegia Titanica is already affiliated to the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the very last thing the AM need is Flanderising based on the "hurr hurr they're Martians geddit" thing.


Today I learned that "Flanderising" is a word, and also its definition.
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:


Errr, the Collegia Titanica is already affiliated to the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the very last thing the AM need is Flanderising based on the "hurr hurr they're Martians geddit" thing.


The Space Wolves would like to say hello.
   
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 crumby_cataphract wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:


Errr, the Collegia Titanica is already affiliated to the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the very last thing the AM need is Flanderising based on the "hurr hurr they're Martians geddit" thing.


The Space Wolves would like to say hello.


...And Tau and mecha.

What I'm asking for is a homage, not a Flanderising.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Stormonu wrote:
 crumby_cataphract wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:


Errr, the Collegia Titanica is already affiliated to the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the very last thing the AM need is Flanderising based on the "hurr hurr they're Martians geddit" thing.


The Space Wolves would like to say hello.


...And Tau and mecha.

What I'm asking for is a homage, not a Flanderising.


We already got the "homage" with death rays and walking tanks. Next they do as you suggest and it's tripod-Titans. Before you know it we're Space Wolves 2.0 and you've got a tripod Magos riding a grav-tricycle armed with Martinius Deathus Rayus Awesomus.

Better we just stop now and leave the Titans as they are.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
 Stormonu wrote:
 crumby_cataphract wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:


Errr, the Collegia Titanica is already affiliated to the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the very last thing the AM need is Flanderising based on the "hurr hurr they're Martians geddit" thing.


The Space Wolves would like to say hello.


...And Tau and mecha.

What I'm asking for is a homage, not a Flanderising.


We already got the "homage" with death rays and walking tanks. Next they do as you suggest and it's tripod-Titans. Before you know it we're Space Wolves 2.0 and you've got a tripod Magos riding a grav-tricycle armed with Martinius Deathus Rayus Awesomus.

Better we just stop now and leave the Titans as they are.


Don't be giving them any ideas...

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 jessagain wrote:
Latest pricing rumours up on Natfka:

Just heard from a FLGS that the Adeptus Titanicus costs will be around $500 AUD which roughly checks out with the following sort of formula:

Knights are $185 AUD, so we'll go from there.

2x Warlords (185) $370
2x Knight Lots (say 60) $120
Rulebook + Bits $100
Ruins (60?) $60
=650 - (rumoured cost of 'free' warlord)185= $465 So getting pretty close to it there.

Also for the Poms, given GW marks up Australian pricing about 1.5 what they charge their UK customers it's around 190 pound for those playing at home in the mother country.


Pinch of salt of course, but seems plausible to me.



Hi,

I quickly looked at the figures taking the following recent sets as reference points for the likely exchange rate: the Basilicanum (AU$165 vs £60) and Lady Olynder (AU$75 vs £27.5), they gave respectively ratios of 2.75 and 2.80.

Based on AU$500 for the GME, this would give around £178.5 - £181.8 as retail price in the UK. Taking AU$465 gives £166-£169.

Doing the same for US$, sets at US$100 and U$45 respectively, gives ratios of 1.67 and 1.64.

Applying to the rumoured US$280, this would give around £168-£171 for the GME.

Now, I think the buildings in the GME are going to be the civitas imperialis sector set, there are 8 sprues and on each large one there are 2 buttresses. On the picture of the civitas imperialis (the smaller terrain set) you see only 4 buttresses (= two of the large sprues). If I am right, then it would be more than only AU$60. And the warlords would be less than AU$185 a piece.

Applying the same reasoning to the hypothesis split would give:

Warlord ~£66-67 (I believe it will come a tad lower)
Rule set ~£36
Knights ~£21.5
Buildings ~£21.5 (I believe this will come higher if sector box equivalent)

Wait & see … (but the wait is insane …)

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Chopstick wrote:

That'd make the 3 sprues titan the same price as the 4 sprues knight. Good inflation estimation.

Is say that price is low - I'd expect the warlord to sell substantially less units than the knight.
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
 Stormonu wrote:
 crumby_cataphract wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:


Errr, the Collegia Titanica is already affiliated to the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the very last thing the AM need is Flanderising based on the "hurr hurr they're Martians geddit" thing.


The Space Wolves would like to say hello.


...And Tau and mecha.

What I'm asking for is a homage, not a Flanderising.


We already got the "homage" with death rays and walking tanks. Next they do as you suggest and it's tripod-Titans. Before you know it we're Space Wolves 2.0 and you've got a tripod Magos riding a grav-tricycle armed with Martinius Deathus Rayus Awesomus.

Better we just stop now and leave the Titans as they are.


I think we should have stopped (before) here tbh https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/fa/58/b6fa58b133159fca89d5859445f2220b.jpg . Exactly how much **** do we need hanginjg of a model? What's wrong with this https://spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/space-marine-heroes-2-6-7-18.jpg ? That's one of the reasons I got quite turned off of GW . In recent years the design team's philosophy seems to have been "OK guys, no flat surfaces. Just put all kinds of **** anywhere. Fkk the aesthetics"

/Edit - this is entirely sufficient (though personally I'd drop the halo) https://i1.wp.com/www.tabletopencounters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/SM-terminatorcommand-Captain.jpg


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Mendi Warrior wrote:
 jessagain wrote:
Latest pricing rumours up on Natfka:

Warlord ~£66-67 (I believe it will come a tad lower)
Rule set ~£36
Knights ~£21.5
Buildings ~£21.5 (I believe this will come higher if sector box equivalent)

Wait & see … (but the wait is insane …)


Reaver estimate? Warhound?

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JWBS wrote:



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
 jessagain wrote:
Latest pricing rumours up on Natfka:

Warlord ~£66-67 (I believe it will come a tad lower)
Rule set ~£36
Knights ~£21.5
Buildings ~£21.5 (I believe this will come higher if sector box equivalent)

Wait & see … (but the wait is insane …)


Reaver estimate? Warhound?




I have seen none, their release schedule seem to be September and October.

Once we know for the Warlord we'll have a price point to start a new round of speculations. Must definitely be less than the Warlord but more than the knights. My guess would be something around £40-£45 for 2 warhounds and £45-£50 for a reaver but that's just a guess, nothing solid.

What seems certain is that the warlord has 144 components, the reaver 122, the 3 knights 67 (19 per knight, incl. heavy stubber and chainsword, and 10 for ranged-weapons, incl. multimelta for upgrading a heavy stubber), the large terrain sprue 38 and the small one 13.


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Mendi Warrior wrote:


I have seen none, their release schedule seem to be September and October.

Once we know for the Warlord we'll have a price point to start a new round of speculations. Must definitely be less than the Warlord but more than the knights. My guess would be something around £40-£45 for 2 warhounds and £45-£50 for a reaver but that's just a guess, nothing solid.

What seems certain is that the warlord has 144 components, the reaver 122, the 3 knights 67 (19 per knight, incl. heavy stubber and chainsword, and 10 for ranged-weapons, incl. multimelta for upgrading a heavy stubber), the large terrain sprue 38 and the small one 13.




It's really annoying that they've stayed so tight-lipped. I really hope they give us some prices (for everything) when they release the GM box. Because I don't really want the terrain or the ruls. But should I buy the box anyway, because the package is a good deal? Or do I wait for what I really want? (Models - all of the, warlords, reavers, etc etc). But will that work out cheaper? And if it doesn't, and I should buy the main box, will there be any left to buy? The uncertainty irritates me. It may only be a few £ here and there, but knowing GW, it could equally be a few dozen £.
   
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JWBS wrote:


It's really annoying that they've stayed so tight-lipped. I really hope they give us some prices (for everything) when they release the GM box. Because I don't really want the terrain or the ruls. But should I buy the box anyway, because the package is a good deal? Or do I wait for what I really want? (Models - all of the, warlords, reavers, etc etc). But will that work out cheaper? And if it doesn't, and I should buy the main box, will there be any left to buy? The uncertainty irritates me. It may only be a few £ here and there, but knowing GW, it could equally be a few dozen £.



I fully agree, the uncertainty is the absolute worst.

We can only make speculations so far … the split based on the AU$ rumour gives a discount of around 28.5%. I don't know if that is "the best value ever" as was said in the unboxing video. If you take the discount on Kill Team that was around 52.5%. That is what I would love to see.
   
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Just a thought but don't Warlords also come with all their data cards, counters and such - so whilst there might be one less sprue there's all the card components to let you operate the Warlord that have to go into the box.

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The now confirmed $490 AUD is just too much. Very disappointing.

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Confirmed how? Because a Natfka post does not confirmation make.
   
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AUD$500?

Oh get bent!

That's insane...

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 Marshal Loss wrote:
The now confirmed $490 AUD is just too much. Very disappointing.


Where have you got the confirmation from?

Based on Basilicanum and Lady Olynder exchange rates, this would be around £175-£178 and US$286-297.

   
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 His Master's Voice wrote:
Confirmed how? Because a Natfka post does not confirmation make.


Bunch of local stores (mine included) have said as much. Saw $578 NZ thrown around but not sure where that came from. I did not get my information from Natfka. Unless my FLGS is pulling my leg, it matches up with what everybody else is saying in various Aus 30k FB groups

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Well the £180ish price honestly comes in at around what we were all expecting for 70 odd pages. It's under £200 which was the cap GW set and it is the most expensive kit they've put together.


Also lets remember you don't have to get it! AT is coming out in multiple boxes at launch so sure you might not get the BIG box; but you can get the little boxes and build up toward it Long run you will likely own everything in the big box over time if you play; heck you'll probably end up with way more.

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So £190 or £150 from an online retailer? I'm on the fence. I might spring for £150, and that would be pushing it. But £170+, absolutely no way
   
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 Marshal Loss wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
Confirmed how? Because a Natfka post does not confirmation make.


Bunch of local stores (mine included) have said as much. Saw $578 NZ thrown around but not sure where that came from. I did not get my information from Natfka. Unless my FLGS is pulling my leg, it matches up with what everybody else is saying in various Aus 30k FB groups [/quote

That ... is not confirmed then. ]
   
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 Overread wrote:
Well the £180ish price honestly comes in at around what we were all expecting for 70 odd pages. It's under £200 which was the cap GW set and it is the most expensive kit they've put together.


"between £5 and £200" checked
"definitely below £200" checked
"most expensive box game" checked
"best value ever" ???

curious to see


 Overread wrote:
Long run you will likely own everything in the big box over time if you play; heck you'll probably end up with way more.


Hell yeah
   
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UK price confirmed: £175 for the big box set.

And £65 for the Warlord (Knights are £20).

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