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stratigo wrote:
So, Deathwing and ravenwing get to have the same costing units as space marines with WILDLY more effectiveness.

Thanks GW.

This is literally their way of doing everything now, same with Ultramarines Aggressors and relics that don't cost points.

It's funny because at least in Age of Sigmar, your formations cost points. They need to reintroduce some actual points costs to things. CP, chapter tactics, warlord traits, free relics; it's ruining a lot of balance with all these extraneous systems that should just cost points commensurate to their value. Relics used to actually cost points.

Meanwhile, you have to spend 5 points for a 6+ FNP per model with a Nob. DA just gets 1-4 ignores on all ICs and Terms, thereby breaking the CP system since transhuman was supposed to cost CP. Asinine, but there you go. Not a good sign for future releases.

Matt Ward was definitely not the real problem.

On the plus side for you, if you play SM and have the biker/term models, just play them as an ad-hoc DA successor with a weird color scheme and call it a day.

I do not have the DA codex yet. Just out of curiosity, did they bring back the Master of the Ravenwing in Landspeeder? Or are we just stuck with the Jetbike?

We have a new, 9th edition thread here people - https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/796005.page