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The Apocalypse Big Mek's Stompa is 650 points and has 4 structure points and 2 power fields.

The WD350 Datasheet Kustom Stompa starts at 600 points (same as a 'regular' Stompa) and has 4 structure points and offers the ability to take quite a few weapons options (belly gun!), including the Lifta-Droppa, but has no Power Fields. And no option to kustomize them in.

Was this by design (the price of customization!) or by mistake? It almost seems like the Kustom Stompa is a Mek's Stompa, but...

Maybe the "Repair Krew" serves as a respectable alternative?

Just wondering...

Looks to me like GW prices each power field at +25 pts, hence the points difference.

If you want the (defensive) power fields, you take the Mek Stompa.

If you want (weapon) options, you don't get the power fields.

Anyone know what the stats for the bellygun, deff arsenel, and repair krew are?

I sure do!

Belly Gun +150 points 72" range, Str 7, AP 3, rolls 3d6 for scatter and 3d6 to determine blast radius. Cover saves allowed. Fires every other turn, and not on turn 1. (Hate to see what the Gargant version would do!)

Deff Arsenal +120 points, 120" range, Str 9, AP 3, Heavy 3d6 (all at same squad) PLUS an additional d3 Super Rokkits each turn (at different targets, if desired)

Repair Krew +75 points, Can repair:

Weapon on a 3+
Primary Weapon on a 5+
Damaged Drive on a 5+
Repair 1 Structure Point on a 6+

ALSO, The Stormlord Heavy Stubber issue is solved as they are add on options taken from Codex: Imperial Guard, in case anyone was wondering...

Wow those all sound pretty impressive.

That's cool. One more what's the Krusha Ball all about

They are the best of the bunch.

The Lifta-Droppa (+25 points) and Gaze of Mork (+25 points) are the same as listed in the main Apocalypse book.

The Krusha Ball (+50 points) and Red Paint Job (+25 points) round out the list.

Sorry to be a pain but what does the Krush ball do?

Alpharius wrote:

ALSO, The Stormlord Heavy Stubber issue is solved as they are add on options taken from Codex: Imperial Guard, in case anyone was wondering...

The original datasheet had the option to take one as an upgrade, does this revised version allow you to take more than one? If so, how many?

No it does not. You can take one as an upgrade just like in the original Apoc Redux datasheet. What is different is that you can choose either heavy flamers or twin linked heavy bolters in the side sponsons.

glon52 wrote:No it does not. You can take one as an upgrade just like in the original Apoc Redux datasheet. What is different is that you can choose either heavy flamers or twin linked heavy bolters in the side sponsons.

So the two heavy Stubbers mounted on each side of the passenger compartment both in the picture and on the actual model still aren't in the rules?

Good Job, GW.

One would hope they correct that omission when the datasheet is put online.

glon52 wrote:One would hope they correct that omission when the datasheet is put online.

You must be new to 'The GW Hobby,' they'll correct it in Apocalypse 2nd Edition or 40K6.

So if this issue does have Datafaxes, what do the other 4 variant Baneblades do???

BYE

The other 4 variants aren't in there, I guess they'll appear online at the time of release?

Also, the wording for the Stormlord says "A Stormlord may be given the following upgrades from Codex: Imperial Guard: hunter-killer missile, pintle mounted heavy stubber, pintle mounted storm bolter".

This doesn't allow for more than one to be purchased? (Sorry, not being familiar with the Gurad codex, I thought it would allow you to do this!)

Re: Krusha Ball

Titan close combat weapon. If not in CC, nominate a direction, roll 2d6, and this is the 'path of devastation'. Assume path is 2" wide. Any model in path takes one Str D hit. Infantry and Jump Infantry get to take an I test to avoid. On a roll of a double 1 the Stompa also takes a Str D hit (Backswing!). Any terrain hit is removed and replaced with rubble.

Alpharius wrote:"A Stormlord may be given the following upgrades from Codex: Imperial Guard: hunter-killer missile, pintle mounted heavy stubber, pintle mounted storm bolter".

This doesn't allow for more than one to be purchased?

By default, no.

Codex: Imperial Guard says: "No upgrade more than once on a single vehicle and no vehicle can include more than one pintle-mounted weapon."

Otherwise, you'd use the fact that a Stormlord is a superheavy which can fire every weapon to take a bunch HK missiles, and ripple-fire them to clear out a bunch of enemy Transports on turn 1.

Good point...

Not sure how GW missed this twice then.

Ouch!

Alpharius wrote:Not sure how GW missed this twice then.

Redundant statement is redundant.

It's GW. Of course they missed it.

BYE

Don't forget those stubbers are supposed to be operated by the passengers, like Chimera lasguns. So the pintle stubber upgrade wouldn't be right anyway.

And another issue: the Custom Stompa is missing the supaskorcha (or whatever you call it). The statline is there along with the other weapons, but the Stompa is not actually equipped with one (nor is it an upgrade option). So the basic Custom Stompa costs the same as a regular Stompa but is missing the skorcha.

maybe there are 2 sets of guns, one on either side, to represent the ability to fire on either side but not both , since a squad can only shoot at another squad, and unless its 32 termagaunts spread out around both sides of the baneblade.

Anyone who has ever played EVE online knows that each ship weapon has 2 guns, to cover both arcs, but only ever fires one at a time. Who knows if this is what they were thinking, or if its just a case of the model looks cooler than the rules allow! (gw.. probably the latter)

Has anyone created an unofficial Datasheet with the correct Stormlord rules on it?

Does the Stomper have a better armament than it does in Epic? I remember them being rather poor at shooting in Epic 40,000.

It wouldn't be that hard to just cost the stubbers per the Guard codex and then allow the player to pay for two, would it?

Yeah, remember this is Apocalypse. Anyone kvetching over an additional stubber can then meet you counts-as Pulsa Rokkit horde. If someone's gone to the trouble of modelling something, they shoudl get to play it (with an appropriate points-cost, of course).

You gotta be charitable but reasonable to even go near an Apoc game. Oh, and having the cohones to preferentially do what is awesome and narrative over win-at-all-costs sure helps too.

Alpharius wrote:It wouldn't be that hard to just cost the stubbers per the Guard codex and then allow the player to pay for two, would it?

From looking at the published datasheets, apparently, yes it would!

I very much doubt that anyone would care that much if you brought two Stubbers on a tank in a game of Apoc. I'm certain that they'll be far more concerned by the Vulcan Mega-Bolter than they will a piddly little .50 Cal.

BYE

Well sure, hard for some, but certainly not for all, right?

How close is the actual datasheet to the version posted on BOLS?(for those of us without access to the book.)

http://belloflostsouls.blogspot.com/2009/02/40k-sneak-peek-stompa-apocalypse.html

the data sheet for the stormlord say's that the heavy stubbers are "crew" served, and not passenger servered, and no menetion of being alble to buy them in the upgrades, nor are they listed under the weapons list. yes you could buy em useing the codex upgrade options, but as its been pointed out, you can only buy one of each upgrade.
So no surprise that someone at GW ha cocked up by putting weapons on a model that you cant actuly buy for it..........lol

H.B.M.C. wrote:I very much doubt that anyone would care that much if you brought two Stubbers on a tank in a game of Apoc. I'm certain that they'll be far more concerned by the Vulcan Mega-Bolter than they will a piddly little .50 Cal.

BYE

Tell that to the xeno that cops one in the leg or back or where ever, not a happy camper

George Spiggott wrote:

Does the Stomper have a better armament than it does in Epic? I remember them being rather poor at shooting in Epic 40,000.

Yep. In Epic it was only armed with a battle cannon and a close combat weapon. The 40k Apocalypse version is half way to a gargant compared with it's original Epic incarnation.

It's odd that things like the Imperitor have been toned down for Apocalypse, yet smaller things have been beefed up.

Wannabe Writer wrote:

George Spiggott wrote:

Does the Stomper have a better armament than it does in Epic? I remember them being rather poor at shooting in Epic 40,000.

Yep. In Epic it was only armed with a battle cannon and a close combat weapon. The 40k Apocalypse version is half way to a gargant compared with it's original Epic incarnation.

It's good for GW's sales figures that things like the Imperitor have been toned down for Apocalypse, yet smaller things have been beefed up.

Sorry, just had to correct your post.